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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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Congrats on your purchase. I had the same dilemma. My choice came down to 1)it's my daily driver and 2) most importantly, the weather here in Chicago in the winter is not the best for a rear wheel drive car. I learned the hardway when I first moved here. I was repeatedly getting stuck in my rear wheel drive C230 sport, not to mention watching the all wheel drive cars drive past me while I was creeping a long in the slow lane wasn't fun. Since that vehicle, all my cars have been all wheel drive.

The C450/43 was a close as I could get in the C class to the C63.

If I was in a warmer climate, I would have probably made a different choice.

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by atl 2 chi
the weather here in Chicago in the winter is not the best for a rear wheel drive car. I learned the hardway when I first moved here. I was repeatedly getting stuck in my rear wheel drive C230 sport, not to mention watching the all wheel drive cars drive past me while I was creeping a long in the slow lane wasn't fun. Since that vehicle, all my cars have been all wheel drive.
FYI, that's almost purely snow tires - I've had RWD in Minnesota for decades and it's fine as long as you have good snows. I've had Audis too, and they're great for snow racing / ice/lake stuff etc, but if you can't get around with a RWD car with good snows then you shouldn't be out anyway. So the reason you were stuck was you were driving on all-season tires in the winter, which you should never do no matter which wheels are driving.

I've tried most snows including the euro brands like Gislaved and my recommendation would be:

1 - not dunlop

2 - if you want max traction at the cost of dry performance then go with Nokian Hakkas. They're excellent and come with a 50K mile warranty. I drove an M3 convertible with nokians for years in snow and never got stuck once, but I passed a lot of stuck people!

3 - If you want max dry performance at the cost of some traction then go with Vredestein Wintracs. These are excellent - you won't get stuck, but you will have slip going up steep hills during a heavy snow storm. Overall these are usually my sport pick and they wear like iron. My last pair I drove for 3 seasons and then to California during the summer and then around for months!

If you're going to be driving in snow a lot (vs ice), the skinnier the better. AWD is not needed, just good snow tires.

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GrussGott
2 - if you want max traction at the cost of dry performance then go with Nokian Hakkas. They're excellent and come with a 50K mile warranty.
Any time limit on the 50K miles warranty?
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Any time limit on the 50K miles warranty?
I believe, if this is still right, it's 5 years from purchase or 6 years from build - I did use their warranty once and it was fantastic, got a new set of tires.
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 07:36 PM
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I've tried most snows including the euro brands like Gislaved and my recommendation would be:

1 - not dunlop

2 - if you want max traction at the cost of dry performance then go with Nokian Hakkas. They're excellent and come with a 50K mile warranty. I drove an M3 convertible with nokians for years in snow and never got stuck once, but I passed a lot of stuck people!

3 - If you want max dry performance at the cost of some traction then go with Vredestein Wintracs. These are excellent - you won't get stuck, but you will have slip going up steep hills during a heavy snow storm. Overall these are usually my sport pick and they wear like iron. My last pair I drove for 3 seasons and then to California during the summer and then around for months!

If you're going to be driving in snow a lot (vs ice), the skinnier the better. AWD is not needed, just good snow tires.[/QUOTE]


If I still had that car, I definitely would heed your advice. I am debating putting on winter tires on my factory C450/43 wheels this winter. I'll take your brand recommendation under advisement.

Thanks
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GrussGott
FYI, that's almost purely snow tires - I've had RWD in Minnesota for decades and it's fine as long as you have good snows. I've had Audis too, and they're great for snow racing / ice/lake stuff etc, but if you can't get around with a RWD car with good snows then you shouldn't be out anyway. So the reason you were stuck was you were driving on all-season tires in the winter, which you should never do no matter which wheels are driving.
To be fair you have to take into account the terrain. I lived in a very hilly environment and when the roads were slick with snow, no RWD or FWD car, regardless of quality of snow tire was capable of getting up those hills.
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