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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 11:37 PM
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The rear looks so much better, I'd actually consider getting the sedan now. Front looks worse though, reminds me of a run-of-the-mill E-class. Slightly bummed about the power upgrade but at least it looks like torque is the same. New steering wheel looks nice too.
The front grille came off of the 2018 C63 AMG, and previous Diamonds grille steped down from 2018 C43 to 2019 C300 with optional AMG Line package. So I think if the grille of C63 went to C43... and the grille from C43 went to C300... I can bet the new C63 AMG will have Panamericana grille. But I do like the Diamonds grille from 2018 on C43, it's a pity they downgrade it.. Here is another video gives you every detail of the new C43..

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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 01:48 AM
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The 2018 C300 always had the option to get a diamond grille.

I also disagree that the diamond grille looks better than the twin-blade design. However, I do think our car is not quite aggressive enough or just lacks a proper front splitter/lip to make it work as the C63 does.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jonathan358
The 2018 C300 always had the option to get a diamond grille.

I also disagree that the diamond grille looks better than the twin-blade design. However, I do think our car is not quite aggressive enough or just lacks a proper front splitter/lip to make it work as the C63 does.
C300 Sedan has never had an option for Diamonds grille... Unlike Coupe and Convertible. That's 1 of the reasons I ordered and waiting for 2018 C43 AMG. I just like the Diamonds Grille with Black exterior and Night package. This combo is only available on current 2018 C43 if you want 4 door sedan. However now I'm rethinking, maybe just wait for a few more months and just get 2019 C300 with AMG Line. C300 has more than enough power to go through LA traffic..
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 08:06 AM
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What do you guys think the 2019's will be getting in the 1/4 mile? mid 12's a possibility with this set-up?
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 09:04 AM
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C300 Sedan has never had an option for Diamonds grille... Unlike Coupe and Convertible. That's 1 of the reasons I ordered and waiting for 2018 C43 AMG. I just like the Diamonds Grille with Black exterior and Night package. This combo is only available on current 2018 C43 if you want 4 door sedan. However now I'm rethinking, maybe just wait for a few more months and just get 2019 C300 with AMG Line. C300 has more than enough power to go through LA traffic..
My mistake did not know you were mentioning the sedan.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by storm10
The front grille came off of the 2018 C63 AMG, and previous Diamonds grille steped down from 2018 C43 to 2019 C300 with optional AMG Line package. So I think if the grille of C63 went to C43... and the grille from C43 went to C300... I can bet the new C63 AMG will have Panamericana grille. But I do like the Diamonds grille from 2018 on C43, it's a pity they downgrade it.. Here is another video gives you every detail of the new C43..

https://youtu.be/ywbZxNat_DA
Don't think the video is entirely correct. They say there is a new driving select mode called "slippery"...if they would add another mode it would be drift mode like on the C63 so I think that news is fake.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Don't think the video is entirely correct. They say there is a new driving select mode called "slippery"...if they would add another mode it would be drift mode like on the C63 so I think that news is fake.
no that’s correct... I think it’s just a rename for eco mode
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Schnippy
Don't think the video is entirely correct. They say there is a new driving select mode called "slippery"...if they would add another mode it would be drift mode like on the C63 so I think that news is fake.
There's other written literature about the new "Slippery" function. It drastically smooths the throttle application for icy/snowy conditions to prevent loss of traction. A "Drift" mode on the C43 would make no sense with the 4-Matic setup. The only way that would make sense is if they implemented a 4-Matic+ system like on the E63S & announced GT 4-door...which they're definitely not doing.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow


no that’s correct... I think it’s just a rename for eco mode
Yeah your correct, found this on the GLE:

Slippery driving mode will tighten the suspension and balance the drivetrain to give equal power to the front and back wheels.

So seems like a boring mode..
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Originally Posted by RichardCranium3
There's other written literature about the new "Slippery" function. It drastically smooths the throttle application for icy/snowy conditions to prevent loss of traction. A "Drift" mode on the C43 would make no sense with the 4-Matic setup. The only way that would make sense is if they implemented a 4-Matic+ system like on the E63S & announced GT 4-door...which they're definitely not doing.
That's correct. The only way you can safely DRIFT is if you have Rear Wheel Drive setup. You can obviously Drift in 4Matic+ ... only because 4Matic+ has an ability to act as a pure RWD... While regular 4Matic cannot, because all 4 wheels are always moving.
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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 07:00 PM
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- the following article suggests that the C43 engine gets the E43 engine's turbos (and that they're larger than the C43's):
https://www.*********.com/content.ph...019-model-year
[insert "benz boost" (without the space) for the asterisks ... really MBworld, you auto-astisk other site names?!]

+ that seems to make sense since HP = (ft. lb. x RPM) / 5252 and, when I look at the MAP readings I get via KiWi ODB/Harry's Laptimer I see that boost starts to fall off above about 5100 RPM and, looking at AMG's published HP/torque graphs, so does the torque (with the peak being fairly constant starting at around 2000 and continuing through about 4000 RPM)


+ thus, if the larger turbos have more higher-RPM boost capacity that results in less torque drop-off above 5100 RPM, that'd develop the additional HP at a higher RPM -- all while still maintaining the same/stated peak torque rating of 384 ft. lb.

+ while all this "seems logical," there _is_ all this discussion going on, as well:
https://www.*********.com/showthread...019-model-year
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- personally, one of the things I like _most_ about my 2017 C43 sedan's styling is the "floating diamonds" grille (this is obviously just personal taste)

- personally, I happen to like the pre-facelift exhaust-tip styling (again, just personal taste)

- I do like the facelift's more aggressive-looking rear diffuser but (except for the grille) can "take or leave" the (other) front-end styling changes

- the updated infortainment screens look like they'll be a nice improvement

- while I understand that the new steering-wheel controls likely add additional useability (i.e., with the new infotainment system), personally, I find the updated steering wheel looks too "posh" to be in a performance vehicle (in fact, I think it's downright ugly in comparison to the previous version)

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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 08:58 PM
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Its really really really difficult for me to believe that Benz would develope 2 different turbos for the 43 platform when:

1. the difference in power is marginal
2. they already knew that they would be replacing it in 2 years

We are talking about a company that used THE SAME 3 valve / cylinder design for all of its V6 and V8 engines (AMG included) from 1997 all the way to 2006. Even their rims were all casted from the same molds as they all had the same offsets. All the same interior designs, even now the outsides AND insides look the same. You really think a company like that is gonna make 2 turbos for like 30more hp and no extra torque on a platform that already makes close to 400hp even at the time when they knew it would be gone really really soon?

I vote no.
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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 09:12 PM
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Someone should buy one quickly and tear it apart so I know what’s different about the turbos !!
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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 11:46 AM
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I would love to have the quad exhaust. I wonder if there will be a way to retrofit. I also like the wider screen that matches the width of the console. That's the only things I like better. All other changes are worse and i bet with a tune they both end up with the same hp and torque. If MB is only claiming .1 better 0-60 there certainly isn't much difference anyway. I got a great deal so I'm guessing if I had waited for a 2019 I'd be paying 4-5k more, not really worth it.
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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 02:07 PM
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If the OEM parts don't fit (which I'm sure they will), I'm sure the chinese will soon be reproducing the diffuser and quad pipes as a retrofit kit
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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 06:00 PM
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Coupè version looks nice!
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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 06:14 PM
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They could have made more effort hiding how fake the left and right front intakes are
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Old Mar 22, 2018 | 12:28 AM
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They could have made more effort hiding how fake the left and right front intakes are
Oh wow I didn't even notice that they were just flat...

But I wouldn't to say they are totally non-functional. it helps direct airflow around the front corners of the car past the wheel well which prevents a lot of drag.
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Old Mar 22, 2018 | 02:30 AM
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New video here

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Old Mar 22, 2018 | 11:12 AM
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Clickbait title, thought it had 4Matic+!!!

Anyway, does anyone know the place of make (country) for the sedan and coupe?
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The coupe facelift looks great. I think the sedan did not translate as well.

And the front intakes actually are open to where the exit is at the side of the car. So they look mildly functional aero bits to divert air to the side of the car.

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Old Mar 22, 2018 | 10:23 PM
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Complete video of the c43 coupe

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So apparently the 19' cab deosn't get the quad exhaust. That's the only thing I like better so I'll be happy with my 18'. I'll save way more than enough for a tune and other upgrades.
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Old Mar 23, 2018 | 12:04 PM
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So apparently the 19' cab deosn't get the quad exhaust. That's the only thing I like better so I'll be happy with my 18'. I'll save way more than enough for a tune and other upgrades.
Find that weird since they have it on the coupe.

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