C450 AMG is the same?
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C450 AMG is the same?
Hello everyone,
There is a C450 AMG 2015 at my dealer. I can get a good price on it so I'm consdering it. But it doesn't have the exhaust button. What does that mean? Does it sound the same?
Is the engine the same?
Should I forget about it and save it up to C43 instead? I'm not a millionare so every dollar counts. Thanks!
There is a C450 AMG 2015 at my dealer. I can get a good price on it so I'm consdering it. But it doesn't have the exhaust button. What does that mean? Does it sound the same?
Is the engine the same?
Should I forget about it and save it up to C43 instead? I'm not a millionare so every dollar counts. Thanks!
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Hello everyone,
There is a C450 AMG 2015 at my dealer. I can get a good price on it so I'm consdering it. But it doesn't have the exhaust button. What does that mean? Does it sound the same?
Is the engine the same?
Should I forget about it and save it up to C43 instead? I'm not a millionare so every dollar counts. Thanks!
There is a C450 AMG 2015 at my dealer. I can get a good price on it so I'm consdering it. But it doesn't have the exhaust button. What does that mean? Does it sound the same?
Is the engine the same?
Should I forget about it and save it up to C43 instead? I'm not a millionare so every dollar counts. Thanks!
And yes it is the same engine. Transmission is different. 7G vs 9G. Also the power split is 31:69 for C43 instead of 33:67 on the C450.
Otherwise everything else is pretty much the same.
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If it does not have the exhaust button, it does not have the performance exhaust so it will not sound the same. Basically 7G older tranny vs new 9G tranny. Pretty much the only change. What price difference can you get?
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C450 AMG
I thought the C450 was only one model year - 2016.
But yes, almost everything is the same.. brakes, suspension, 4wd, interior and exterior. Only real difference is the 7 vs 9 gear transmission and the optional performance exhaust.
IMO the performance exhaust does not make or break it... the C450 sounds great when in Sport+ mode. Plus the C450 will save you quite a few $ over the C43.
But yes, almost everything is the same.. brakes, suspension, 4wd, interior and exterior. Only real difference is the 7 vs 9 gear transmission and the optional performance exhaust.
IMO the performance exhaust does not make or break it... the C450 sounds great when in Sport+ mode. Plus the C450 will save you quite a few $ over the C43.
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The Performance exhaust does not make or break the car, im tired of hearing that from noobs that never had a loud car in their life. The main difference is the transmission, the c450 is 7 v 9g in the c43, Which does make the 0-60 a bit faster in the c43.
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Hello everyone,
There is a C450 AMG 2015 at my dealer. I can get a good price on it so I'm consdering it. But it doesn't have the exhaust button. What does that mean? Does it sound the same?
Is the engine the same?
Should I forget about it and save it up to C43 instead? I'm not a millionare so every dollar counts. Thanks!
There is a C450 AMG 2015 at my dealer. I can get a good price on it so I'm consdering it. But it doesn't have the exhaust button. What does that mean? Does it sound the same?
Is the engine the same?
Should I forget about it and save it up to C43 instead? I'm not a millionare so every dollar counts. Thanks!
So...What is the price?
edit: Also 2015 means this year is the 1st year that it will be out of warranty. So the price has to be good. Its basically 2 refreshes behind on top of being used AND a 1st year model. The price would have to be like 35k for me to want to buy it.
Last edited by waisoserious; Mar 22, 2018 at 10:02 PM.
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Don't take my word for it. RokenR said the same thing. And he knows a thing or two about loud cars.
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The performance difference is in the gearing. That's pretty much it. If the price was really good I would def consider it. But the price has gotta be good to make me really consider it. Not because its not a C43, but because its a 1st year car. And I HATE getting 1st year models.
So...What is the price?
edit: Also 2015 means this year is the 1st year that it will be out of warranty. So the price has to be good. Its basically 2 refreshes behind on top of being used AND a 1st year model. The price would have to be like 35k for me to want to buy it.
So...What is the price?
edit: Also 2015 means this year is the 1st year that it will be out of warranty. So the price has to be good. Its basically 2 refreshes behind on top of being used AND a 1st year model. The price would have to be like 35k for me to want to buy it.
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It depends on what kind of sound you are looking for. I was not talking about loudness. The PE exhaust itself does not make the car any louder than any other after market exhaust. What it does have is a different tune and an exhaust sound module. Which also translates to around 15hp on a dyno for some reason by the way. EC dynoed several C43 with and without PE and the ones without it always produced 15-20hp less. You can fit a 5000 dollar exhaust in a C43 without PE and it just won't make the same sound, it will be louder yes, but the pops bangs and crackles won't have the same brutality of the PE. If someone is specifically looking for that sound, yes it does make or break the car.
Don't take my word for it. RokenR said the same thing. And he knows a thing or two about loud cars.
Don't take my word for it. RokenR said the same thing. And he knows a thing or two about loud cars.
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C450 AMG
Yes, the C450 has is AMG tuned with more HP/Torque, but it also has AMG adaptive sport suspension and a more agressive AMG front fascia.
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lol man, you sound like someone that didn’t order the PE. It does make or break the car, whether you like to hear that or not. It’s what sold me on the car in the first 2 seconds of test driving it.
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Yes, but then it does not stay factory anymore does it? You just voided the warranty. The brilliance of the PE is that gives you all that drama on a bone stock car.
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Well, I was planning on tuning the car anyways, so it wouldve been voided inevitably. The tune also gives you much much more pops. I've spoken with my local tuner and it might be possible (need to bring my car in). and trust me munis, I wouldve got the PE exhaust if i knew it was much of a difference, plus i sold my car and needed a car asap (Bad planning), it was either the last C43 available or a 440i. I didn't know much on the c43 since i never planned on buying a benz and was planning on getting a new Cayman but a 4 door bi-turbo amg which was faster than both felt like a better decision.
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Well, I was planning on tuning the car anyways, so it wouldve been voided inevitably. The tune also gives you much much more pops. I've spoken with my local tuner and it might be possible (need to bring my car in). and trust me munis, I wouldve got the PE exhaust if i knew it was much of a difference, plus i sold my car and needed a car asap (Bad planning), it was either the last C43 available or a 440i. I didn't know much on the c43 since i never planned on buying a benz and was planning on getting a new Cayman but a 4 door bi-turbo amg which was faster than both felt like a better decision.
What I meant was that not having the PE is a deal breaker if you are just going to keep the car stock.
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I had 2016 C450 for over 2 years. I now have 2018 C43 with performance exhaust for the last two months. Not only is the shifting/gearing in my C43 much more aggressive than my C450 (in Sports +), but I love the sound 5x better than the C450. My only complaint is the shifting is sometimes too aggressive when I'm not trying to be aggressive - I sometimes have to manually upshift because the RPMs go too high (4k+) without shifting. I liked the C450 sports+ shifting better but that's because I'm not normally going nuts on the highway - just semi aggressive acceleration but I don't like the C or S setting which is too passive. But the PE is a HUGE difference and I definitely like my C43 over the C450. I don't know anything about performance tunes or chips so I don't if there are better ways to get the desired result from either car.
