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Old 05-16-2018, 12:24 PM
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OMG!!! BMS JB4 in the works!

Guys we did it! From the PM's to, nagging Terry/BMS on the N54 forums, they have finally started working on the JB4. They have a c63s currently at their facility that they are working on and next will be us 43 guys. They also stated they will be looking for Beta testers in the coming weeks. I am so excited that I am about to **** my pants. Good job guys!

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What should we expect from the JB4? I have the JB1 currently, and I'm really happy with it.
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What should we expect from the JB4? I have the JB1 currently, and I'm really happy with it.
imagine fuel trim control and boost per gear. That alone will be a big plus for our platform
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I'm more curious about how this is going to shake out for people who just purchased a JB1...
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I'm more curious about how this is going to shake out for people who just purchased a JB1...
I'm currently considering purchasing a JB1 ... wonder what the timeline is like for this to actually hit the market and if I should bite the bullet and get a JB1 for this season now and then chop it when the JB4 comes out... if that'll even be possible at the time!
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Well if someone from BMS is reading this, ill happily be a tester for the JB4
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I will be happy to watch someone potentially trash their car as a beta tester to each his own, but did I buy a luxury sports car to be a beta tester over a couple hundred bucks? Nahhhh thatís silly.
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I will be happy to watch someone potentially trash their car as a beta tester to each his own, but did I buy a luxury sports car to be a beta tester over a couple hundred bucks? Nahhhh thatís silly.
Ehh, If its leased, who cares
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You will. I suggest reading the lease for content.
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You will. I suggest reading the lease for content.
Have plenty of friends with very modified leases, no problems at all even when problems occur
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Ehh, If its leased, who cares
haha yeah, unfortunately/fortunately I own mine so I am a bit more cautious. But certainly glad some folks are willing to give it a shot.
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I will be happy to watch someone potentially trash their car as a beta tester to each his own, but did I buy a luxury sports car to be a beta tester over a couple hundred bucks? Nahhhh thatís silly.
yup, to each his own, but being happy to see someone trash their car is kind of heartless. Why would someoneís misfortune make anyone happy? Even if the misfortune was self inflicted. Like being happy someone crashed because they were speeding. Everyone speeds at one point or another. Iíd say JB4 could potentially be safer than JB1 or Racechips for that matter if it monitors AFR and keeps those values in check. Not saying Iím sure JB4 would monitor AFR in our cars but it does have that capability in other cars.
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What are the hp differences like between the JB1 and JB4 on the bmws?

should we expect similar differences with our cars?
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Only Terry can answer that question since the product isn’t out yet
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I had a JB4 on my e92 (among several other tunes... Dinan, Cobb, Procede, etc). Nobody would even bother with a JB1 in the bimmer world haha... Didn't even know it was a thing...
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What are the hp differences like between the JB1 and JB4 on the bmws?

should we expect similar differences with our cars?
Not sure but if JB1 is only tapping into Boost and 18bora is making over 60+hp and 80+tq then I can only imagine what a JB4 can do with measuring A/F, timing, boost and other stuff. Plus like the BMW guys, you can use JB4 to cancel the CEL for downpipes and you can also adjust parameters to get max gains out of them. I been holding off on installing my downpipes because I was going to get an ECU tune but now I can just use the JB4 if BMS sets it up like how the 335i/340 guys use it.
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Will the jb4 work with nitrous?
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Originally Posted by DameMD View Post
Guys we did it! From the PM's to, nagging Terry/BMS on the N54 forums, they have finally started working on the JB4. They have a c63s currently at their facility that they are working on and next will be us 43 guys. They also stated they will be looking for Beta testers in the coming weeks. I am so excited that I am about to **** my pants. Good job guys!

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Let the tuning wars begin!
Interesting. I've been looking at tunes and trying to decide if I want to go that route or just leave my "baby" stock. The 43 certainly has enough power for everyday driving and I probably will never drag/track it, but it's always nice to kick it up a notch. I never tuned my Bimmer, but always saw/read good things about BMS/Terry on those forums. Guess I'll hold off on the Renntech and see what this brings...perhaps get comparable performance and have some $$$ left over for an exhaust or dp.
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yup, to each his own, but being happy to see someone trash their car is kind of heartless. Why would someoneís misfortune make anyone happy? Even if the misfortune was self inflicted. Like being happy someone crashed because they were speeding. Everyone speeds at one point or another. Iíd say JB4 could potentially be safer than JB1 or Racechips for that matter if it monitors AFR and keeps those values in check. Not saying Iím sure JB4 would monitor AFR in our cars but it does have that capability in other cars.
sarcasm is often misinterpreted.
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anyone know if jb4 will be able to remove the speed limiter? I was able to remove the limiter on my charger with a handheld piggyback, wondering if its possible for to do the same without a ECU flash

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I will be happy to watch someone potentially trash their car as a beta tester to each his own, but did I buy a luxury sports car to be a beta tester over a couple hundred bucks? Nahhhh thatís silly.


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Ehh, If its leased, who cares
FYI -> Just like BMW, MB has trap doors that datalog boost along with other parameters which is stored in the ECU memory. They will see that the boost going into the engine did not match what the ECU was seeing. Reflash / Programming the ECU direct is the only way to avoid this as you can insert all of the data parameters back to when the vehicle was not touched. When you lease a vehicle, you do not own it. So the "who cares" attitude will not work. MB will care.


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anyone know if jb4 will be able to remove the speed limiter? I was able to remove the limiter on my charger with a handheld piggyback, wondering if its possible for to do the same without a ECU flash
I don't think piggybacks can remove speed limiters. You'd need an ECU flash to do that. But I've also never seen a handheld piggyback... you probably had a handheld ECU flashing device...
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