New 2019 Coupe Jerking/Bucking Issue




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Like someone above said, you have to smooth into the throttle at low speeds and be decisive at fast speeds. It makes you actually pay attention and respect it as a performance car as opposed to a cruiser C300.
You should try an e46 m3 with an SMG or even better was the e60 m5 with SMG LOL those were pretty horrible at times. After a few thousand miles on the c43 it's gotten better though.
Am I correct in saying that 9G-tronic transmissions in pre-facelift C43’s start in 2nd gear in Eco, Comfort and Sport modes, but 2019 models start in 1st gear in Comfort, Sport and Sport+ modes? Or did I get this wrong.
Am I correct in saying that 9G-tronic transmissions in pre-facelift C43’s start in 2nd gear in Eco, Comfort and Sport modes, but 2019 models start in 1st gear in Comfort, Sport and Sport+ modes? Or did I get this wrong.
So, this thread has been confusing because there is a mix of 2017/2018 owners and 2019 owners experiencing different things and having different points of view, thinking that the other guy doesn’t know what he’s taking about. And it’s down to the 2019 starting in 1st all the time.
Last edited by TModelle; Oct 31, 2019 at 10:20 AM.
alexasa, RichardCranium3, stockbmw, jonathan358, zibby43, munis and AMGiggity are all on 2017/2018 9G-tronic transmissions that start in 2nd gear unless in Sport+, and they don't complain about jerking/bucking or rough starts in Eco/Comfort/Sport, and pay more attention to throttle application in Sport+ where it starts in 1st.
HotPotJ, evoi19, Candyman19, 3.Pointed.Czar and TModelle (me) are on 2019 9G-tronic transmissions that start in 1st gear in all modes from Comfort and up (no Eco mode) , and are all complaining about jerky starts and poor shifting even in Comfort mode.
The programming for 2017/2018 is clearly different than the 2019 models. It is no wonder that 2017/2018 owners can't agree with the points of view of the 2019 owners.




alexasa, RichardCranium3, stockbmw, jonathan358, zibby43, munis and AMGiggity are all on 2017/2018 9G-tronic transmissions that start in 2nd gear unless in Sport+, and they don't complain about jerking/bucking or rough starts in Eco/Comfort/Sport, and pay more attention to throttle application in Sport+ where it starts in 1st.
HotPotJ, evoi19, Candyman19, 3.Pointed.Czar and TModelle (me) are on 2019 9G-tronic transmissions that start in 1st gear in all modes from Comfort and up (no Eco mode) , and are all complaining about jerky starts and poor shifting even in Comfort mode.
The programming for 2017/2018 is clearly different than the 2019 models. It is no wonder that 2017/2018 owners can't agree with the points of view of the 2019 owners.
Speaking for myself only here, I methodically played around to replicate the jerking, determined how and when it happens, and made a defined, conscious effort to change my behavior. I think Munis did the same, and I'm somewhat confident alexasa did as well. What about the '18 people? What have YOU physically done - not taken to the dealer to for a software update - to define your fleshy inputs in to the machine when the jerking happens? Getting sucked back to your seat is a two way street if you don't entirely move your foot away from the pedal.
I've never said the jerkiness doesn't exist, it's good, bad, a glitch, a feature or whatever wants to be said. I will stand my ground, however, that this is consequence of the low gearing that's more akin to moving in 1st gear in a manual car than anyone anticipates or has experience with. Some have stated they've driven manual tranny's before. Great. How proficient at it were you? I've been in cars with people that have driven a manual for years and are downright terrible at it. Other's who have NEVER put the car in to first gear because their grandpa said it was only needed to get started when towing something. They've never had the patience or been aware enough that they were doing anything wrong, or could be doing something different to smooth things out. Short of electronically neutering the throttle to a certain point, the gearing just is what it is, good bad, indifferent.
What you're saying is that you can make the jerking happen in a 2nd gear start? Or does it only happen in 1st gear.




I can share my experience with my C63S. Not exactly the same car, but the core of the transmission is the same. After I took delivery of it in Germany, it was definitely rough around the edges. Driving around town was jerky and not very pleasant. It's exaggerated in the C63S by the fact that it uses a clutch instead of a torque converter. For the next ~6000 miles I mostly did Autobahn and country road driving. Very little city driving. It learned well how I drive on the open road, but every time I got into the city it was still jerky. Then at around 6300 miles I dropped it off for shipping to the USA. Took possession of it again late September and have now driven an additional 2500 miles on my usual roads and taken it for some canyon runs on the weekend. At first it still had the same jerkiness around town, but here I'm doing more city-like driving and it clearly learned my city/town driving style over the last 2500 miles and has gotten fairly smooth now. There's still the inherent directness in the drivetrain from the fact that it uses a clutch, so if I mishandle the throttle it will be felt as a jolt in the drivetrain, but driven normally and skilled it's very smooth. My previous car with a dual clutch transmission learned to declutch in third gear when slowly coming to a stop. Pretty much how I do with manual transmission. The C63S still downshift all the way to 2nd gear, but it does it smoother now. Of course I have learned, too, and retrained my muscle memory so that's part of it. What it doesn't do anymore now is downshift all the way to 1st gear, unless I come to a full stop for about a second. I regularly pull away in 2nd gear now after brief stops. It does the same in manual mode. I can hold it in 2nd gear and pull away instead of going down all the way to 1st.
If I can impart one thing, use the proper driving mode for the situation and give the car enough time to learn how you drive. Don't confuse it by using S+ around town sometimes and C other times. I drive in C around town, and as soon as I hit the highway or an open road I put it in I*, which I've setup like S+, except with the suspension in comfort and the transmission in manual mode. I don't like the transmission shifting on me automatically on the highway. When I hit up a really fun road like the canyons I go to, then I put it in full S+. So really I think the important thing is let it learn properly in the right mode for the right situation. If you use S+ for spirited driving as well as driving around town, then it really doesn't know how you wanna drive in S+. You are teaching it two opposite ends of the spectrum that are not really compatible with each other.
Last edited by superswiss; Oct 31, 2019 at 02:09 PM.



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