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Old May 16, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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AMR vs Eurocharged C450 Handheld ECU Tune

In the process of trying to order a handheld ECU tune for my C450 and narrowed it down to two companies, AMR vs Eurocharged. Both seem t be one of the best in the industry. Any pros/cons of both that you encountered? Can't seem to decide on which to pull the trigger. Thank you for your feedback.
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Old May 17, 2020 | 10:09 AM
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In my opinion, the AMR comport Rv3.1 is the best and safest tune you can get. On their dyno graphs, i believe you make 100+ whp with the Rv3.1 and it cost like $1800. Eurocharge is a great company too but it honestly comes down to what you want out of the tune and the cost. I'm pretty sure AMR is also the only tuning company right now, that can give us 100+ whp. I have DME tuning and they advertise 120+ hp to crank for like $1500.
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Old May 17, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by razorsharp450
In the process of trying to order a handheld ECU tune for my C450 and narrowed it down to two companies, AMR vs Eurocharged. Both seem t be one of the best in the industry. Any pros/cons of both that you encountered? Can't seem to decide on which to pull the trigger. Thank you for your feedback.
I might be able to help! We are one of the only companies that offers a motor protection warranty on our tuning!

our handheld and tune is also currently on sale and if you take a look at the current draggy boards ec cars are leading the way!

message me if you have any questions.
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Old May 19, 2020 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by loungn14
I might be able to help! We are one of the only companies that offers a motor protection warranty on our tuning!

our handheld and tune is also currently on sale and if you take a look at the current draggy boards ec cars are leading the way!

message me if you have any questions.

^ can you confirm what one of the posts said about claimed whp gains? If AMR is making +100 whp, what whp does Eurocharge tune offer ?
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Old May 19, 2020 | 02:03 PM
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^ can you confirm what one of the posts said about claimed whp gains? If AMR is making +100 whp, what whp does Eurocharge tune offer ?
we are around the same gains but if you look at draggy it seems our cars are running a tad stronger
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Old May 19, 2020 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
^ can you confirm what one of the posts said about claimed whp gains? If AMR is making +100 whp, what whp does Eurocharge tune offer ?
Just compare the dyno graphs with each other. I was the one that said that the AMR comport Rv3.1 makes 100+ whp, and I got this information from a friend, he is an AMR Ambassador for North Cali.
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Old May 19, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Why is the upgrade $500 more for a C400 vs C450/C43?

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I might be able to help! We are one of the only companies that offers a motor protection warranty on our tuning!

our handheld and tune is also currently on sale and if you take a look at the current draggy boards ec cars are leading the way!

message me if you have any questions.
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Old May 19, 2020 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by allanyeung99
Just compare the dyno graphs with each other. I was the one that said that the AMR comport Rv3.1 makes 100+ whp, and I got this information from a friend, he is an AMR Ambassador for North Cali.
I would rather compare Dragy or track times. Posted dynos don't equate to performance.
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Why is the upgrade $500 more for a C400 vs C450/C43?


450/43 is currently on sale. We would honor the sale price on the 400 as well

Originally Posted by Howyalivin
I would rather compare Dragy or track times. Posted dynos don't equate to performance.
couldn’t agree more

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Originally Posted by Howyalivin
I would rather compare Dragy or track times. Posted dynos don't equate to performance.
They have those informations too.
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Old May 27, 2020 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by loungn14
I might be able to help! We are one of the only companies that offers a motor protection warranty on our tuning!

our handheld and tune is also currently on sale and if you take a look at the current draggy boards ec cars are leading the way!

message me if you have any questions.
could you PM me, I am curious on your tune and have a few questions. Thank you !
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by razorsharp450
In the process of trying to order a handheld ECU tune for my C450 and narrowed it down to two companies, AMR vs Eurocharged. Both seem t be one of the best in the industry. Any pros/cons of both that you encountered? Can't seem to decide on which to pull the trigger. Thank you for your feedback.

Did you pull the trigger?
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jevsays
Did you pull the trigger?
What info are you looking for? We drive the same car so maybe I can help answer some of your questions.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 06:57 PM
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Eurocharged cars seem to perform better.
All the fastest C43s are Eurocharged , then Jb4, on dragy. I have been a dragy user since June 19 and barely see AMR cars posting any times.
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Old Sep 15, 2020 | 03:48 PM
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this gave me a good laugh lol

No they do not. You keep referencing the 1 person not to mention who has every bolt-on, a piggy back, e60 fuel and so on -vs- AMR just tune lmao, YOUR vehicle has problems as well as a long list on this forum. #searchbar
Note I said 'cars' plural and not singular.
I am not referring to Jeffrey's car with WMI etc.
But the many EC stage 1/2 cars ( and some JB4s) with multiple 0-60 and 1/4 mile times posted on Dragy , in the 3.4- 3.7 region and 11.4- 11.7 region, including my own.
One can look at the monthly tables there are very few AMR cars posting at all.
All I mainly see from AMR is videos of 3rd gear pops and bangs. Very few or no dynos or dragy runs. Perhaps the target market is a more casual , younger clientele?
Yes I have had teething problems, mine was one of the first facelifts to be tuned- back in June 2019 and being an EU car it also had a very restrictive OPF which NA and Asian cars so not.
They car went back for several dynos and I had new maps to fix it at no extra cost.
The recent issue of high IATs in the Summer causing occasional boost cut is due to me running a Decat , high boost map on a car without a decat, and it was me who requested it.
The higher boost facing the backpressure of the cats, sometimes caused IATs to go too high.
Now that I am fitting the 6.3L Wagner Cooler this should be resolved.
Also I am intrigued as to why AMR have no evidence to show of the supposes 4 cars that they have fitted & tuned the wagner coolers on. Surely it is something to be proud of abd show / market to potential customers?
Wagner tuning own website stated Sept 9 release so I am not sure how you got them faster than me 🤔.
The deal by AMR was only posted end of August...
yet not one dyno or even picture of one fitted
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TWINTURBOS
What info are you looking for? We drive the same car so maybe I can help answer some of your questions.
Just curious which route OP went with. I'm running JB4 now yet the customer service/log check inquiries have been slacking with a response lately. Would like to tweak mine a bit...

I've also been contemplating Eurocharged since there's a location not too far from me.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jevsays
Just curious which route OP went with. I'm running JB4 now yet the customer service/log check inquiries have been slacking with a response lately. Would like to tweak mine a bit...

I've also been contemplating Eurocharged since there's a location not too far from me.
So I have had eurocharged stage 1 for about 1000 km now and no complaints. Car drives well, just more powerful all around. As a comparison, my best 0-60 was 4.7 stock and my best with eurocharged has been 4.1 with 94 octane. I haven't done too many runs and I suspect I can hit 4.0 with the right weather conditions. I'm going to be stage 2 very soon, with downpipes, and I can update you with the gains of the stage 2 by the end of next week if you like. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TWINTURBOS
So I have had eurocharged stage 1 for about 1000 km now and no complaints. Car drives well, just more powerful all around. As a comparison, my best 0-60 was 4.7 stock and my best with eurocharged has been 4.1 with 94 octane. I haven't done too many runs and I suspect I can hit 4.0 with the right weather conditions. I'm going to be stage 2 very soon, with downpipes, and I can update you with the gains of the stage 2 by the end of next week if you like. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Sounds good! Thanks for the info. Eurocharged Austin is about 1.5 hours from me and maybe 15 minutes from a friend's house so that would be where I'd to.

Where are you from? Sorry, on my phone so it doesn't state where you're located. I figured Stage 1 would at least break 4 seconds, I don't plan on getting downpipes. I'm on JB4 Map 6 running 93 Oct and it's plenty quick yet you know how we always itch and beg for more power...
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AhEmGee
Note I said 'cars' plural and not singular.
I am not referring to Jeffrey's car with WMI etc.
But the many EC stage 1/2 cars ( and some JB4s) with multiple 0-60 and 1/4 mile times posted on Dragy , in the 3.4- 3.7 region and 11.4- 11.7 region, including my own.
One can look at the monthly tables there are very few AMR cars posting at all.
All I mainly see from AMR is videos of 3rd gear pops and bangs. Very few or no dynos or dragy runs. Perhaps the target market is a more casual , younger clientele?
Yes I have had teething problems, mine was one of the first facelifts to be tuned- back in June 2019 and being an EU car it also had a very restrictive OPF which NA and Asian cars so not.
They car went back for several dynos and I had new maps to fix it at no extra cost.
The recent issue of high IATs in the Summer causing occasional boost cut is due to me running a Decat , high boost map on a car without a decat, and it was me who requested it.
The higher boost facing the backpressure of the cats, sometimes caused IATs to go too high.
Now that I am fitting the 6.3L Wagner Cooler this should be resolved.
Also I am intrigued as to why AMR have no evidence to show of the supposes 4 cars that they have fitted & tuned the wagner coolers on. Surely it is something to be proud of abd show / market to potential customers?
Wagner tuning own website stated Sept 9 release so I am not sure how you got them faster than me 🤔.
The deal by AMR was only posted end of August...
yet not one dyno or even picture of one fitted
I see you post often in the Facebook groups, and agree with their postings. Always about popcorn burble tunes, which I'm not even a fan of, or running digs. There's one guy that always flashes his Dyno results. AMR reps moderate the group(s) and they're not always the most enjoyable to be in if you're an enthusiast of the actual car since mostly everyone is biased.
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 04:38 PM
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Sounds good! Thanks for the info. Eurocharged Austin is about 1.5 hours from me and maybe 15 minutes from a friend's house so that would be where I'd to.

Where are you from? Sorry, on my phone so it doesn't state where you're located. I figured Stage 1 would at least break 4 seconds, I don't plan on getting downpipes. I'm on JB4 Map 6 running 93 Oct and it's plenty quick yet you know how we always itch and beg for more power...
I am in Toronto and we have a eurocharged location here as well. Honestly, I was expecting under 4 as well, and while I think it's possible to reach, I don't anticipate it to be common. I'll run a few more 0-60 runs before downpipes if i get a change as its cooler now. I think that under 4 shouldn't be hard to achieve on 98 or 100 octane though but I'll try the higher octane when I get the downpipes. What acceleration times are you getting with your jb4 setup?
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