Power Potential of the M276
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'17 C43 AMG [Stage 1+]
Power Potential of the M276
I've been researching a bit regarding the M276 DELA 30 that powers the 43 AMGs
Knowing that its original purpose wasn't for the track specifically, it seems that this engine holds its own pretty well in terms of its design however the aftermarket scene is not like of the n54/n55 scene
does M276 have the capability to run up with say the s55 of the F82 M4?
what does it really come down to with these machines in terms of potential "reliable" power output? (Since both are 3.0L 6 cyl turbocharged engines, may just need some enlightenment on these engines)
Knowing that its original purpose wasn't for the track specifically, it seems that this engine holds its own pretty well in terms of its design however the aftermarket scene is not like of the n54/n55 scene
does M276 have the capability to run up with say the s55 of the F82 M4?
what does it really come down to with these machines in terms of potential "reliable" power output? (Since both are 3.0L 6 cyl turbocharged engines, may just need some enlightenment on these engines)
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2014 - W212.065 - E400 ( M276.820, 3 liter Turbo) RWD not Hybrid
I too am curious what components are different between W212 E400 DELA 30 at 333BHP vs W213 E43 AMG at 396 BHP.
By the way, S450L is also using this engine in 362 BHP form.
My intention was to get my E400 to be 396HP like an E43 using MB original parts.
The turbos are different. At least the EPC confirmed that from part number/s.
However, I changed my mind when I see the simulated torque curve of the E43 engine.
Power wise there is a simple rule. Pump more power to the same engine, you loose longevity.
There is no free lunch.
The key is to decide, is 100,000KM good enough for you and you will sell the car say at 80,000 KM ?
Then you modify to the power level your mechanic will think survive ( but worned out ) 100,000KM
By the way, S450L is also using this engine in 362 BHP form.
My intention was to get my E400 to be 396HP like an E43 using MB original parts.
The turbos are different. At least the EPC confirmed that from part number/s.
However, I changed my mind when I see the simulated torque curve of the E43 engine.
Power wise there is a simple rule. Pump more power to the same engine, you loose longevity.
There is no free lunch.
The key is to decide, is 100,000KM good enough for you and you will sell the car say at 80,000 KM ?
Then you modify to the power level your mechanic will think survive ( but worned out ) 100,000KM
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'17 C43 AMG [Stage 1+]
I guess it's more wanting to see someone go all out with this motor on their 43 and showing what the M276 is really made of, which I'm aware there are a few projects here and there like upgrading intercooler and turbo upgrades, rather than doing it to my own.
Imagine a 43 pushing 700 to the crank 🥴
Imagine a 43 pushing 700 to the crank 🥴
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I believe the only failures on this engine has been high boost and the rods failing. So put in some custom built rods and I think the motor can be pushed. My car was pushing 25-26 lbs of boost at one point and launching side ways on a prepped drag strip lol. The tuner has dialed it back down under 20 lbs now to keep the motor safe.
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I believe the only failures on this engine has been high boost and the rods failing. So put in some custom built rods and I think the motor can be pushed. My car was pushing 25-26 lbs of boost at one point and launching side ways on a prepped drag strip lol. The tuner has dialed it back down under 20 lbs now to keep the motor safe.
