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Your car does not have an OPF. OPF's are particulate filters introduced on European cars exhaust I believe MY19 onwards. I don't think it applies to Canadian cars, but regardless it would not be on a 2016. If you want more power you can go stage 2 and get some catless DP's
Thanks, was going to research this a bit because I hadn't seen them mentioned. I don't like how the downpipes sound so may go for an exhaust.
Thanks, was going to research this a bit because I hadn't seen them mentioned. I don't like how the downpipes sound so may go for an exhaust.
Definitely do some research on the exhaust! A catless DP on a v6 is not everyones cup of tea. Especially if you don’t have a valved exhaust or aftermarket exhaust designed to organize the rasp a little better. I have high flow cats on the way which I’m guessing will end up somewhere in between OEM cats and catless. Will update once they’re on
Definitely do some research on the exhaust! A catless DP on a v6 is not everyones cup of tea. Especially if you don’t have a valved exhaust or aftermarket exhaust designed to organize the rasp a little better. I have high flow cats on the way which I’m guessing will end up somewhere in between OEM cats and catless. Will update once they’re on
Agreed. I just put a deposit down on an FI exhaust and will report back 😎.
Definitely do some research on the exhaust! A catless DP on a v6 is not everyones cup of tea. Especially if you don’t have a valved exhaust or aftermarket exhaust designed to organize the rasp a little better. I have high flow cats on the way which I’m guessing will end up somewhere in between OEM cats and catless. Will update once they’re on
Awesome, thanks! I like the awe touring quite a bit so I may decide to go with it. Will update as well if I get it.
You've just compared 3 different cars with 3 different tunes. The engine is only one part of this equation.
I'm not an expert but I believe the E400's (and C400's) actually have a different compression ratio in their engines and are overall designed for less performance. Similarly, the E400 is heavier and likely has different limits applied to the drive train which tunes cannot necessarily overcome.
Also, without launch control, in all of these cars the driver is one of the biggest factors. The fact people with the same tune get wildly different times shows this. So practicing your launch can definitely help.
Your best bet is to find another E400 or see if there are some E400 times posted with specific tunes to make sure yours is running as it should
The launch I’ve got down pretty damn well. I run a 2.02 60ft. It’s once the car hits second gear and that’s when the C400 and c43 pull crazy on me which is why I have doubts on the tune. My next step is stacking a jb4 on the EC tune
Quick update, my best launches so far hover at the 4.1 for no 0-60. This is with sport+ in comfort suspension, break boosting to 1.9k rpm before launch with the air con off less than a quarter tank. The launch feels slow but it picks up speed quickly. Not sure how to improve on the launch.
Quick update, my best launches so far hover at the 4.1 for no 0-60. This is with sport+ in comfort suspension, break boosting to 1.9k rpm before launch with the air con off less than a quarter tank. The launch feels slow but it picks up speed quickly. Not sure how to improve on the launch.
I’m on the same boat as you running 4.2-4.3 0-60 I’m my e400 using the same 1.9k launch technique. The car picks up speed quick just won’t launch as good. I tried launching around 2.2k but I feel the car cut boost on launch.
I’m on the same boat as you running 4.2-4.3 0-60 I’m my e400 using the same 1.9k launch technique. The car picks up speed quick just won’t launch as good. I tried launching around 2.2k but I feel the car cut boost on launch.
Same, it feels lime the launch is ruined past 2k rpm.
Definitely brake boost to ~2k RPM and no more.
My 2020 C43 with full tank, first time trying it with JB4 + BCM.
Confident it will go faster with some practice and adjusting of suspension setting and tire pressures.
Definitely brake boost to ~2k RPM and no more.
My 2020 C43 with full tank, first time trying it with JB4 + BCM.
Confident it will go faster with some practice and adjusting of suspension setting and tire pressures.
Very nice bro, the 2020s seem to be very quick! I don't think I can reach those numbers even with a stage 2 tune.
Same, it feels lime the launch is ruined past 2k rpm.
Our launch and 0-60 won’t be as quick as c43 because we have the 7g transmission which isn’t the best for launches compared to the 9g that has better acceleration.
Our launch and 0-60 won’t be as quick as c43 because we have the 7g transmission which isn’t the best for launches compared to the 9g that has better acceleration.
The 19s and 20s are particularly fast. 17-18 are fairly similar. One of the eurocharged guys told me he had a guy in NYC with a c450 that had almost broken the 10 sec quarter mile. He was doing 11.05 or something like that.
The 19s and 20s are particularly fast. 17-18 are fairly similar. One of the eurocharged guys told me he had a guy in NYC with a c450 that had almost broken the 10 sec quarter mile. He was doing 11.05 or something like that.
I know exactly who he’s talking about and it’s a 2017 c43 not a c450. He’s my friend who tuned me through eurocharged Canada. He has one of the fastest stock turbo c43 in the world.
I know exactly who he’s talking about and it’s a 2017 c43 not a c450. He’s my friend who tuned me through eurocharged Canada. He has one of the fastest stock turbo c43 in the world.
Haha, what a small world. He said a car exactly like yours so I assumed c450. That being said, I think it's one gear shift to 60 for my car. Would it be such a difference? Also, the new 19s and 20s have crazy times to 60s that are faster than the 17-18s with just a jb4 and bcm.
Haha, what a small world. He said a car exactly like yours so I assumed c450. That being said, I think it's one gear shift to 60 for my car. Would it be such a difference? Also, the new 19s and 20s have crazy times to 60s that are faster than the 17-18s with just a jb4 and bcm.
Wait, are you saying the stock 2019 and 2020 C43 are much faster to 60 than the pre-facelift? I have a 2020 C43 and I don't think I've broken 4.3 seconds 0-60...How is someone doing 10 second quarter mile stock?
Haha, what a small world. He said a car exactly like yours so I assumed c450. That being said, I think it's one gear shift to 60 for my car. Would it be such a difference? Also, the new 19s and 20s have crazy times to 60s that are faster than the 17-18s with just a jb4 and bcm.
Yeah lol, I spoke to eurocharged Canada about why it’s difficult to break 3s 0-60 on my car and they were saying how the c43s are much quicker off the line then the 400s/450 due to different tranny and ecu.
Yeah lol, I spoke to eurocharged Canada about why it’s difficult to break 3s 0-60 on my car and they were saying how the c43s are much quicker off the line then the 400s/450 due to different tranny and ecu.
oh gotcha, I would have gotten a c43 had I known the difference.
Wait, are you saying the stock 2019 and 2020 C43 are much faster to 60 than the pre-facelift? I have a 2020 C43 and I don't think I've broken 4.3 seconds 0-60...How is someone doing 10 second quarter mile stock?
They are quite a bit faster than the pre face-lift and 4.3 stock is a good time. The guy that I mentioned had a modded pre face-lift model, stage 2 ec + potentially additional mods.
You've just compared 3 different cars with 3 different tunes. The engine is only one part of this equation.
I'm not an expert but I believe the E400's (and C400's) actually have a different compression ratio in their engines and are overall designed for less performance. Similarly, the E400 is heavier and likely has different limits applied to the drive train which tunes cannot necessarily overcome.
Also, without launch control, in all of these cars the driver is one of the biggest factors. The fact people with the same tune get wildly different times shows this. So practicing your launch can definitely help.
Your best bet is to find another E400 or see if there are some E400 times posted with specific tunes to make sure yours is running as it should
i have stg 2 EC v4 k&n filter 200 cell dp awe exhaust 4300lbz wagon best time befor i did my tcu was 4.125 e 20 blind all about your lunch . Also the 9speed helps little.
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i have stg 2 EC v4 k&n filter 200 cell dp awe exhaust 4300lbz wagon best time befor i did my tcu was 4.125 e 20 blind all about your lunch . Also the 9speed helps little.
I should add, regarding my original post where I said “tunes don’t really help” with tq limits that was prior to widespread TCU tune availability
To be quite honest I’m not very impressed by the Eurocharged Canada V4 Tune. So far I’ve raced a 2015 C400 with a kleeman piggyback tune that claims 420hp/430 torque and lost by a car off a dig. Also raced a 2018 C43 dme stage 1 tune claims 460hp and got smoked.
stg 2. Best time 4.2 with tcu tune 3.9 with 250 lbs passenger
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