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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 11:33 PM
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product Teaser L.E.M Intercooler (its coming...)

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we are releasing a updated intercooler for the c43 platform at an extremely competitive price. We will be 2nd on the market, but wont be 2nd on quality. CNC Aluminum, high fin rate on the core, bigger piping and the works. here is a preview of some of the top CNC tanks, as we ramp up our first batch. Save up your tax $$$

We are looking at a release date of late April, as we wrap up a couple of things on the production and supply side of things. Since we are the manufacturer and are making this for private labels across the globe, you will be getting it under our brand with no middle person. We will be offering this at a retail of $1500 (+$20shipping).



Your patience will pay off, this also includes a 50$ credit off our c43 downpipes or our Valved H-exhaust<(coming soon ) if purchased at full retail

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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 08:51 AM
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 01:36 PM
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What kind of gains are expected with the unit? That is, bolting on and keeping everything else the same ? Trap speed increase?
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 04:10 PM
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what would the out the door price for the intercooler and dp shipped be? Also is there any testing that was done on this intercooler compared to the wanger unit?
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 06:41 PM
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We benchmark all our products with whats currently on the market and wont release unless its +/- 3% to 5 % apples to apples to whats already out there. Testing was done on a UAE car from one of our partners (we wanted it to be HOT!) and there is definitely an improvement, especially with consistency in making and keeping boost. We have graphs but the partner we used has the watermark on the dyno charts plastered all over the place (literally) so we cant post it publicly without violating proprietary agreements.

@sliqdaddy91 throttle response and acceleration will smooth out, 10-15mph higher trap speeds, more when tuned. A happier engine especially when driving in traffic, on a un-tuned engine 10-15 hp throughout the rev range can be expected, but in all honestly tuned engines is where you'll see the higher gains.

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Old Mar 8, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2021 | 08:08 PM
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Most likely a type-o I'm assuming, prob 1mph tuned as boost will hold a bit more consistent.

That was a lot of packed sarcasm, haven't seen that since my bmw days.
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Old Mar 9, 2021 | 11:11 PM
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You guys should look into building us a front mount heat exchanger like the one below, but possibly a taller version, for our C450's. These would sell like crazy



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You guys should look into building us a front mount heat exchanger like the one below, but possibly a taller version, for our C450's. These would sell like crazy


you must not understand what the car is equipped with to make this suggestion.

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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:30 PM
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Edit to the previous typo, it meant to say 1 MPH with proper dialed in tuning (Downpipes and our soon to be released intake).

we are incorporating a meth port for all of you who want that option so there is a little revision to be made. Billet CNC milling takes a long time, but wanted to update the thread with pics of the unit and the bung. We will leave it aluminum colored as we prefer this aesthetic. Pics of the core will be coming soon, but we we are aiming for the most fins and rows within the allotted space.
The big question...WHEN?
ETA: Mid to end of June (we had issues with the supplier of the silicone couplers, so we had to change vendors)

also is a preview of our "Monster" downpipes, these have 3 inch primary piping, a direct v-band mount to the turbo charger , a 20 percent bigger barrel and core and end caps. there are a few members running these already. They are similar to the supersprint downpipes for the c43, but at a more attainable price. The finish on these will be a beautiful brushed satin, with a 1,200$ price for the pair including a pair of 02-spacers for CEL's and will supersede our standard Dp's. If these are purchased with our upcoming H-pipe exhaust, you will get a 100$ discount . If these are purchased with the intercooler you are eligible for a 50$ discount. ETA on The monster pipes will be around the same time as the intercooler. Remember: no smell, no nasty honda civic high pitch rasp, and a deep exotic tone
(note:prototype is MIG and TIG welded and "rough" looking, ...final product will be fully argon backpurged TIG welded)

Pre-purchases will be announced in a separate thread when the full kit is revealed.












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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 04:47 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 10:50 PM
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whats the difference between these monster dp’s and your original dp’s?

why is there already a revision to the dp’s? Were they not just recently released?

Originally Posted by LogosMotorworks
Edit to the previous typo, it meant to say 1 MPH with proper dialed in tuning (Downpipes and our soon to be released intake).

we are incorporating a meth port for all of you who want that option so there is a little revision to be made. Billet CNC milling takes a long time, but wanted to update the thread with pics of the unit and the bung. We will leave it aluminum colored as we prefer this aesthetic. Pics of the core will be coming soon, but we we are aiming for the most fins and rows within the allotted space.
The big question...WHEN?
ETA: Mid to end of June (we had issues with the supplier of the silicone couplers, so we had to change vendors)

also is a preview of our "Monster" downpipes, these have 3 inch primary piping, a direct v-band mount to the turbo charger , a 20 percent bigger barrel and core and end caps. there are a few members running these already. They are similar to the supersprint downpipes for the c43, but at a more attainable price. The finish on these will be a beautiful brushed satin, with a 1,200$ price for the pair including a pair of 02-spacers for CEL's and will supersede our standard Dp's. If these are purchased with our upcoming H-pipe exhaust, you will get a 100$ discount . If these are purchased with the intercooler you are eligible for a 50$ discount. ETA on The monster pipes will be around the same time as the intercooler. Remember: no smell, no nasty honda civic high pitch rasp, and a deep exotic tone
(note:prototype is MIG and TIG welded and "rough" looking, ...final product will be fully argon backpurged TIG welded)

Pre-purchases will be announced in a separate thread when the full kit is revealed.










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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 08:37 PM
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Wrote back to your PM. Its just a further evolution of the product but will come at a slighter higher price point. specs and features will be fully touched upon when fully released. but the body of the barrel will be 15% bigger, as well as having bigger 3" primary pipes, as well as having a different mounting point as explained below.
They will be 1150 for with purchase of the intercooler w/ larger chargepipes (charge cooler)
and 1100 if purchased with our H-pipe exhaust.

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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 10:21 PM
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Is there any benefit to the wider v band right of the turbo? Aka more power or tq? Higher in the rpm range?
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 12:35 AM
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im pretty sure all downpipes made for our car mount at the v band. my weistec downpipes mount there. nothing ground breaking. just standard at this point.
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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other than Brondex, supersprint and Redstar not all Catted DP's mount to the vband outlet unless im missing some other brands. seems like a 50/50 mix of the mounting points of whats out on the market. Looks more like an evolution of the product as opposed to trying to break ground. which i believe is what is trying to be conveyed.
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Their intercooler core looks very similar to Wagner tuning which I am currently a dealer for. If the performance/quality of this product is as good or better than Wagner for less I would consider selling your product. I like the performance and quality of the Wagner units, but the price point just seems a bit rich for this platform. Wagner is definitely name brand and has nice products but even with dealer pricing, its not very incentivizing.
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We are waiting for parts to come in but wanted to update this post.
Here you can see 3 variants of the colors. Our middle east partner will be getting the black version while we will be selling the raw aluminum colored one.
Also the stack of "naked intercoolers" with the top and bottom tanks attached and the exposed cores. (sorry for the compressed pics as we had to scale them down because they were huge)

we benchmarked the only other intercooler on the market and increased the density of rows and fins compared to the competition within the same square box core.
1500$ gets you the larger chargepipes (not pictured) all hardware, the core itself with WMI bung and all the mounting hardware. The purchase also includes 50$ off our downpipes when bundled with the intercooler or 100$ off our (World first!) AMG PE inspired H-crossover exhaust (True dual exhaust with a H-cross over toward the back)
Also...please like and follow our Facebook page as developments will be posted here first before the forum.

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It looks like a carbon copy of the Wagner Chargecooler :
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It looks like a carbon copy of the Wagner Chargecooler :
it really does. I wonder what the odds of them choosing the same design are. I am not talking about the layout either. Obviously all the pipes need to line up, but the machining on the case are exactly the same. also using wagner intercooler rubber hose. You can see the wagner logo on the black silicone hose.
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Old Aug 5, 2021 | 10:53 AM
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@Star4life the pic with the red floor is not ours, it was put up by a poster for comparison, we are still waiting for our silicone hoses.

Its terms of the design, yes indeed it does represent the same shape and there is a very specific reason to this. There are only so many ways you can design the box and core shape to fit into the small available area and maximize every nook and crannie and millimeter. If you look at the S55 intercoolers for the bmw this is the same case, there are just so many ways one can design something as you have to work within the allotted space. The ribbing on the plates are similar (the center square on ours in longer though), this was milled out to save weight from the original thick gauge square,hence the cross hatch design works the best.

The top and end tanks although not seen easily in the pics has slightly more volume than the WG unit.
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Originally Posted by LogosMotorworks
also is a preview of our "Monster" downpipes, these have 3 inch primary piping, a direct v-band mount to the turbo charger , a 20 percent bigger barrel and core and end caps. there are a few members running these already. They are similar to the supersprint downpipes for the c43, but at a more attainable price. The finish on these will be a beautiful brushed satin, with a 1,200$ price for the pair including a pair of 02-spacers for CEL's and will supersede our standard Dp's. If these are purchased with our upcoming H-pipe exhaust, you will get a 100$ discount . If these are purchased with the intercooler you are eligible for a 50$ discount. ETA on The monster pipes will be around the same time as the intercooler. Remember: no smell, no nasty honda civic high pitch rasp, and a deep exotic tone.
I know that any C43 (with or without PE) is getting that Honda civic sound. Can you tell a little more how exactly you overcame it? How are your DP's different from the other ones? What makes them have that deep exotic tone you mentioned?
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@Yuriy_Moscow Privet, I will happily answer your question. I have answered your question with technicality in our 3" monster downpipe thread as to not derail the subject of this one.
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Wad had about 7 inquiries about carrying the black color instead of the aluminum color. looks like the stealth look may win.
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