W205C43PFL

Speaking of IWC clock in the C-Class 205, I heard that non-AMG ones that have the Mercedes branded one is also called IWC something with a different part number sans the IWC lettering that the C63s one has. I need to find the source though, I will update this post when I find the source.

Edit 1: I couldn't find the source that I was looking for (that had supporting details such as them disassembling the two clocks to compare the circuit board, revision number, manufacturing processes/parts sourced, etc.). As far as I remember, they noticed the only difference between the two clocks were really the styling on the front where customers actually see such as the IWC branding, the red accent, plus the different design of the clock hands. The back of the clock when removed from the centre console says AMG on the IWC one while the regular one just says Mercedes. They are both made in Tunisa. However, there were clearly no IWC movement or any clock movement whatsoever, it is just a digital chip with clock hands controlled by a SAM module.

I did a quick search and the part number 213-827-13-00 is the IWC branded one while part number 213-827-20-00 is the regular Mercedes one. I am sorry that I wasn't' able to find the original source.

W205C43PFL

Couldn't agree enough on the RWD vs 4MATIC part especially for those who live in Canada or colder states of USA.

superswiss

Shift lights work the same in the 63. Builds up red from the bottom in segments and then flashes when it's time to shift. You must have short shifted it. I do hope you are past your break-in period before doing this, though.

djprov431

The 43 has a little over 1000 miles on it, the 63s has 2800 --- both cars got the widely varied RPM and non-babied break ins -- they're golden

I do have to double check the 63 shift light function - I've manually shifted the car so many times to red line that I'm sure I would've noticed if they were indeed the same between both cars - but mistakes happen!

djprov431

Thanks for the comment! I couldn't agree more -- the 43 is well worth the badge - with the added perk of AWD and better mileage - you nailed it.

djprov431

Thank you! I'm really enjoying sharing my experiences on both cars, and being part of the forum again - I took way too many years off from MB! (I agree on the clock!)

superswiss

Would seem an odd malfunction if it didn't in yours, but I guess I've seen weirder things. I drive 90+% in manual mode and have 21k miles on mine, so it definitely flashes. There's even a last ditch shift advise I've seen come up on the left (I use the SuperSport layout) showing the next gear and an arrow pointing up. It doesn't always come up, so I haven't quite figured out what triggers it. I have a feeling it's just before it hits the rev limiter, or when it actually hits it. I'm sometimes not fast enough with the shift especially in first gear, so I occasionally run into the rev limiter.

hyperion667

The difference in start up sounds is funny.......the 63 totally wins that everyday!

djprov431

I have seen the gear up with number indication on the left of the AMG screen while in manual, in fact you can catch it in one of the videos above. I still feel quite strongly that the 43 and 63 shift indications are different - will need to confirm via video here soon....here are some screen shots from #2 drive video above -- I still think it's different than the 43!

djprov431

You just can't really beat the deep V8 rumble.

W205C43PFL

I am sorry about the delay. I added some more information on the two clocks in the original post.

hyperion667

Few cars can compare Aston Martin maybe.

djprov431

added screen shots of the 63s shift light sequence above

djprov431

Interesting info, thanks!

superswiss

Yeah, the clock is just IWC design. It's not actually an IWC clock. It's a digital clock that's synced to the car's clock, which itself is synced to GPS. All it has is an IWC looking analog face. An actual IWC clock is at a different level, and would probably be stolen constantly from the cars.

superswiss

They might be slightly different in color as far as I can tell. Here's an older video (sorry it's German), but you can still him run through the gears around minute 1:20.

jhpmbusa

Do you get any pops and bangs when you emotion start the 63? with the 43 once it warms up, you can get a pop or bang out of it most of the times with the emotion start lol. Doesn't seem to pop on cold emotion starts though, just louder for sure.

djprov431

No, not on the 63 - sounds pretty much the same cold or hot IMO and with the Renntech exhaust module installed I just leave the exhaust flaps open 100% all the time....it's so much nicer. The only time I hear crackle on the 63 is if it's in sport + doing aggressive up/down shifts, or in Race going up or down.

djprov431

Yeah, that resembles what I see in the 43 -- not the 63. I'll get out and make another video of manual redline shifting in each car soon enough to show what I'm seeing. (funny, I saw that video some time ago )

djprov431

Uploaded new red line shift video to the top!

W205C43PFL

Looks like AMG and IWC did collaborate on a real IWC watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Irc...ature=youtu.be

djprov431

Ahh good find!

djprov431

I didn't even notice the keys were different between the 43 and 63s until today

superswiss

Haha...that's usually one thing that keeps coming up. Yes, the 43 gets the regular key fob that all normal Mercedes vehicles have. Sort of gives away how the 43 has still one foot in the normal Mercedes camp, whereas the 63 gets the AMG key fob complete with the Affalterbach crest. Something that's coveted as signaling that it has its roots in Affalterbach with the engine and all. I'm not sure if the E53 and especially the GT43 and GT53 also get the normal key fob or if at least the GT43 and 53 get the AMG key fob, since they are from the ground up designed and built by AMG.

W205C43PFL

Ah good find. Material wise, although the gloss black "looks" more premium, I prefer the matte finish because it is likely to scratch less.
Edit1: How did I forget the C63s is a C-Class ... I thought we are comparing C-Class and E-Class AMG keys. I didn't know the C63s gets the gloss black key as well (the same as the E-Class) I thought it would also be matte like the rest of the C-Class lineup just with an AMG logo. I guess that is MB to add value to the product (for getting the top of the line of C-Class)