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Speaking of IWC clock in the C-Class 205, I heard that non-AMG ones that have the Mercedes branded one is also called IWC something with a different part number sans the IWC lettering that the C63s one has. I need to find the source though, I will update this post when I find the source.
Edit 1: I couldn't find the source that I was looking for (that had supporting details such as them disassembling the two clocks to compare the circuit board, revision number, manufacturing processes/parts sourced, etc.). As far as I remember, they noticed the only difference between the two clocks were really the styling on the front where customers actually see such as the IWC branding, the red accent, plus the different design of the clock hands. The back of the clock when removed from the centre console says AMG on the IWC one while the regular one just says Mercedes. They are both made in Tunisa. However, there were clearly no IWC movement or any clock movement whatsoever, it is just a digital chip with clock hands controlled by a SAM module.
I did a quick search and the part number 213-827-13-00 is the IWC branded one while part number 213-827-20-00 is the regular Mercedes one. I am sorry that I wasn't' able to find the original source.
Edit 1: I couldn't find the source that I was looking for (that had supporting details such as them disassembling the two clocks to compare the circuit board, revision number, manufacturing processes/parts sourced, etc.). As far as I remember, they noticed the only difference between the two clocks were really the styling on the front where customers actually see such as the IWC branding, the red accent, plus the different design of the clock hands. The back of the clock when removed from the centre console says AMG on the IWC one while the regular one just says Mercedes. They are both made in Tunisa. However, there were clearly no IWC movement or any clock movement whatsoever, it is just a digital chip with clock hands controlled by a SAM module.
I did a quick search and the part number 213-827-13-00 is the IWC branded one while part number 213-827-20-00 is the regular Mercedes one. I am sorry that I wasn't' able to find the original source.
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TWO THUMBS UP on the review!!! hopefully all those people who say "43/53 are not real AMGS" actually read this and realize how great of a job MB did by bringing in the mid-tier. It really helps people who would have never experienced an AMG at all actually get a chance to consider/experience the magic lol.
There are plenty of us that can't rely on a rwd vehicle or commute day to day on v8 mpg ratings. They honestly perfected the Jekyll and Hyde for those who need it the most!!!
There are plenty of us that can't rely on a rwd vehicle or commute day to day on v8 mpg ratings. They honestly perfected the Jekyll and Hyde for those who need it the most!!!
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I also made two other observations - The 43 shift light (at least in S+) is progressive - the bottom of the screen lights up red when you're close to the needing a shift, and then the entire screen flashes red at the max shift point -- one second later and the ECU cuts it.....On the 63 (and maybe I just missed it, but I doubt it) it's not progressive with the shift light, just the bottom lights up red, no entire screen flash....I will need another look to confirm.
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I do have to double check the 63 shift light function - I've manually shifted the car so many times to red line that I'm sure I would've noticed if they were indeed the same between both cars - but mistakes happen!
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TWO THUMBS UP on the review!!! hopefully all those people who say "43/53 are not real AMGS" actually read this and realize how great of a job MB did by bringing in the mid-tier. It really helps people who would have never experienced an AMG at all actually get a chance to consider/experience the magic lol.
There are plenty of us that can't rely on a rwd vehicle or commute day to day on v8 mpg ratings. They honestly perfected the Jekyll and Hyde for those who need it the most!!!
There are plenty of us that can't rely on a rwd vehicle or commute day to day on v8 mpg ratings. They honestly perfected the Jekyll and Hyde for those who need it the most!!!
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Thank you for sharing the driving impressions! Really useful to have direct comparisons between the C63 and C43 from someone that actually *owns* both cars.
Hell of a garage. And that IWC clock on the 63 is hands-down one of my favorite touches in the 63 cabin. Little details like that make the C63 so special.
Hell of a garage. And that IWC clock on the 63 is hands-down one of my favorite touches in the 63 cabin. Little details like that make the C63 so special.
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The 43 has a little over 1000 miles on it, the 63s has 2800 --- both cars got the widely varied RPM and non-babied break ins -- they're golden
I do have to double check the 63 shift light function - I've manually shifted the car so many times to red line that I'm sure I would've noticed if they were indeed the same between both cars - but mistakes happen!
I do have to double check the 63 shift light function - I've manually shifted the car so many times to red line that I'm sure I would've noticed if they were indeed the same between both cars - but mistakes happen!
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Would seem an odd malfunction if it didn't in yours, but I guess I've seen weirder things. I drive 90+% in manual mode and have 21k miles on mine, so it definitely flashes. There's even a last ditch shift advise I've seen come up on the left (I use the SuperSport layout) showing the next gear and an arrow pointing up. It doesn't always come up, so I haven't quite figured out what triggers it. I have a feeling it's just before it hits the rev limiter, or when it actually hits it. I'm sometimes not fast enough with the shift especially in first gear, so I occasionally run into the rev limiter.
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Yeah, the clock is just IWC design. It's not actually an IWC clock. It's a digital clock that's synced to the car's clock, which itself is synced to GPS. All it has is an IWC looking analog face. An actual IWC clock is at a different level, and would probably be stolen constantly from the cars.
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I have seen the gear up with number indication on the left of the AMG screen while in manual, in fact you can catch it in one of the videos above. I still feel quite strongly that the 43 and 63 shift indications are different - will need to confirm via video here soon....here are some screen shots from #2 drive video above -- I still think it's different than the 43!
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Do you get any pops and bangs when you emotion start the 63? with the 43 once it warms up, you can get a pop or bang out of it most of the times with the emotion start lol. Doesn't seem to pop on cold emotion starts though, just louder for sure.
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No, not on the 63 - sounds pretty much the same cold or hot IMO and with the Renntech exhaust module installed I just leave the exhaust flaps open 100% all the time....it's so much nicer. The only time I hear crackle on the 63 is if it's in sport + doing aggressive up/down shifts, or in Race going up or down.
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They might be slightly different in color as far as I can tell. Here's an older video (sorry it's German), but you can still him run through the gears around minute 1:20.
https://youtu.be/-k3Stmg7okU?t=4828
https://youtu.be/-k3Stmg7okU?t=4828
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Looks like AMG and IWC did collaborate on a real IWC watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Irc...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Irc...ature=youtu.be
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Looks like AMG and IWC did collaborate on a real IWC watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Irc...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Irc...ature=youtu.be
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Edit1: How did I forget the C63s is a C-Class
... I thought we are comparing C-Class and E-Class AMG keys. I didn't know the C63s gets the gloss black key as well (the same as the E-Class) I thought it would also be matte like the rest of the C-Class lineup just with an AMG logo. I guess that is MB to add value to the product (for getting the top of the line of C-Class)
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