C43 Custom Stock Airbox Turbo Intake Tube?
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C43 Stock Airbox Turbo Inlet Tube?
I've been hemming and hawing over the few intake options (MST, BMS, Modalworks (beautiful but expensive), Logos engineering (in the works)) we have for the C43 (and the rest of the 43/450 series as a whole). They all seem to have some strengths and weaknesses.
This brought me to the thought of just upgrading the turbo inlet hose that comes off the stock airbox down to the turbo and upgrading the drop-in filters with something like K&Ns. I can't find any turbo inlet upgrade kits for our cars. I don't think anyone makes them.
Has anyone found any? Now, I could also make my own. Buying 2 90 degree silicone hoses and cutting them probably isn't a big deal, the only problem I see is, that I need a flange/adapter off of the turbo to attach a custom silicon tube. There's 2 companies that created this flange for their intakes, MST in their V2 kit, and CTS:
MST: https://mst-performanceusa.com/collections/mercedes-benz/products/mercedes-benz-c400-c450-c43amg-glc43-intake-upgrade-kit-v1-to-v2
CTS: https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts-turbo-mercedes-benz-c400-c450-c43-amg-m276-w205-intake-system/
Now, I could certainly buy the MST V2 kit just to get the flanges but that seems silly. I've looked everywhere this morning and can't find any standalone, similar adapters I can couple a silicone hose to.
The MST hoses wouldn't be plug and play with the stock box either. I believe the hole in the stock airbox looks to be 2.5", and the MST hoses are 2.75" off the flange (I think, I found another post about this), so I'd need a 2.75" to 2.5" silicone elbow, which of course exists. (The reality that even if they were the same diameter, they'd line up with the stock airbox exactly is also unlikely, but again, silicone hoses can be cut and modified).
Anyways, has anyone thought about something that involves just the turbo inlet pipe upgrade? What have you done?
This brought me to the thought of just upgrading the turbo inlet hose that comes off the stock airbox down to the turbo and upgrading the drop-in filters with something like K&Ns. I can't find any turbo inlet upgrade kits for our cars. I don't think anyone makes them.
Has anyone found any? Now, I could also make my own. Buying 2 90 degree silicone hoses and cutting them probably isn't a big deal, the only problem I see is, that I need a flange/adapter off of the turbo to attach a custom silicon tube. There's 2 companies that created this flange for their intakes, MST in their V2 kit, and CTS:
MST: https://mst-performanceusa.com/collections/mercedes-benz/products/mercedes-benz-c400-c450-c43amg-glc43-intake-upgrade-kit-v1-to-v2
CTS: https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts-turbo-mercedes-benz-c400-c450-c43-amg-m276-w205-intake-system/
Now, I could certainly buy the MST V2 kit just to get the flanges but that seems silly. I've looked everywhere this morning and can't find any standalone, similar adapters I can couple a silicone hose to.
The MST hoses wouldn't be plug and play with the stock box either. I believe the hole in the stock airbox looks to be 2.5", and the MST hoses are 2.75" off the flange (I think, I found another post about this), so I'd need a 2.75" to 2.5" silicone elbow, which of course exists. (The reality that even if they were the same diameter, they'd line up with the stock airbox exactly is also unlikely, but again, silicone hoses can be cut and modified).
Anyways, has anyone thought about something that involves just the turbo inlet pipe upgrade? What have you done?
Last edited by Alriko; 06-06-2022 at 12:12 PM.
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Crazy think is I've thought about doing this exact same thing. I was going to be universal Cold air intakes from K&N and find a tube that minimizes turbulent flow. I found the perfect intake but I am having trouble finding tubes and elbow piece
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Subscribing because I'm trying to solve this issue for my GLC 43, too. As far as I can tell, the best thing I can do for the intake is to use the stock configuration and just switch the turbo inlet tube to something smoother that would also mate up with the stock intake box. I've been watching loads of YouTube videos on DIY carbon fiber parts. The search continues.
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I wanted to give you guys a quick update.
Regarding the last reply about the part I'm trying to replace, the stock turbo inlet pipe off the airbox:
So here's what I've got in the works. I got some turbo flange adapters that will mount to the turbo. Both the turbo flanges and airbox inlet hole have a diameter of 2.75":
It looks like the longest turbo inlet tube is about 8". So I was looking for a 90 degree silicone tube that had an ID of 2.75" and about 10" legs so I have something to work with:
https://www.siliconehose.com/2-750-i...egree-10-legs/
Plan is to basically just cut 2 silicone 90 degree hoses to fit (since the turbo inlet pipe is a 90 degree curve).
I've got another intake on the car, hence having these parts off for measurement. I don't know quite when I'll get to the next step but I'll let you guys know.
Also, it's totally possible I just wait and get the Logos Engineering front mount intakes if I can whenever they're available haha.
Regarding the last reply about the part I'm trying to replace, the stock turbo inlet pipe off the airbox:
So here's what I've got in the works. I got some turbo flange adapters that will mount to the turbo. Both the turbo flanges and airbox inlet hole have a diameter of 2.75":
It looks like the longest turbo inlet tube is about 8". So I was looking for a 90 degree silicone tube that had an ID of 2.75" and about 10" legs so I have something to work with:
https://www.siliconehose.com/2-750-i...egree-10-legs/
Plan is to basically just cut 2 silicone 90 degree hoses to fit (since the turbo inlet pipe is a 90 degree curve).
I've got another intake on the car, hence having these parts off for measurement. I don't know quite when I'll get to the next step but I'll let you guys know.
Also, it's totally possible I just wait and get the Logos Engineering front mount intakes if I can whenever they're available haha.
Last edited by Alriko; 06-24-2022 at 06:03 PM.
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we are actually developing a "luxe box". Its going to be part of our Stealth series of products for folks who want to fly under the radar and want to stay OEM or "oem like". Its going to be a replacement for both turbo inlets (you can buy just the elbows if you want) or get the full kit which will include new : taller (bigger) tops to the OEM filter box. This is aiming at making more interior volume and larger cross sectional air "reserve" for the turbo to pull from above the filter. The elbows are being designed to fit under the OEM intake duct and will mate to the 2.75 tube that is being measured in the picture above.
as you can see we maxed out the available room, so much so that the original OEM elbow fits INSIDE our elbow. We just finished the passenger side prototype yesterday and will commence on the driver side. Getting 90 degree silicone elbows wont work for a clean look, in order to tuck under the ductwork, avoid engine parts, and provide the most volume. just another option for those who want somthing OEM like. Since we just finished the 1st prototype we hope by end of September for the Luxe box.
see CAD Pics below
as you can see we maxed out the available room, so much so that the original OEM elbow fits INSIDE our elbow. We just finished the passenger side prototype yesterday and will commence on the driver side. Getting 90 degree silicone elbows wont work for a clean look, in order to tuck under the ductwork, avoid engine parts, and provide the most volume. just another option for those who want somthing OEM like. Since we just finished the 1st prototype we hope by end of September for the Luxe box.
see CAD Pics below
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This is awesome! I'm happy to hear a company is coming out with something like this! Fantastic idea.
How can I stay on top of hearing about it's availability? I assume just follow along your Facebook for updates? I'll totally just wait for something like this!
How can I stay on top of hearing about it's availability? I assume just follow along your Facebook for updates? I'll totally just wait for something like this!
Last edited by Alriko; 07-04-2022 at 09:59 PM.
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what intake filters do you plan to use for these?
I wanted to give you guys a quick update.
Regarding the last reply about the part I'm trying to replace, the stock turbo inlet pipe off the airbox:
So here's what I've got in the works. I got some turbo flange adapters that will mount to the turbo. Both the turbo flanges and airbox inlet hole have a diameter of 2.75":
It looks like the longest turbo inlet tube is about 8". So I was looking for a 90 degree silicone tube that had an ID of 2.75" and about 10" legs so I have something to work with:
https://www.siliconehose.com/2-750-i...egree-10-legs/
Plan is to basically just cut 2 silicone 90 degree hoses to fit (since the turbo inlet pipe is a 90 degree curve).
I've got another intake on the car, hence having these parts off for measurement. I don't know quite when I'll get to the next step but I'll let you guys know.
Also, it's totally possible I just wait and get the Logos Engineering front mount intakes if I can whenever they're available haha.
Regarding the last reply about the part I'm trying to replace, the stock turbo inlet pipe off the airbox:
So here's what I've got in the works. I got some turbo flange adapters that will mount to the turbo. Both the turbo flanges and airbox inlet hole have a diameter of 2.75":
It looks like the longest turbo inlet tube is about 8". So I was looking for a 90 degree silicone tube that had an ID of 2.75" and about 10" legs so I have something to work with:
https://www.siliconehose.com/2-750-i...egree-10-legs/
Plan is to basically just cut 2 silicone 90 degree hoses to fit (since the turbo inlet pipe is a 90 degree curve).
I've got another intake on the car, hence having these parts off for measurement. I don't know quite when I'll get to the next step but I'll let you guys know.
Also, it's totally possible I just wait and get the Logos Engineering front mount intakes if I can whenever they're available haha.
#11
we are actually developing a "luxe box". Its going to be part of our Stealth series of products for folks who want to fly under the radar and want to stay OEM or "oem like". Its going to be a replacement for both turbo inlets (you can buy just the elbows if you want) or get the full kit which will include new : taller (bigger) tops to the OEM filter box. This is aiming at making more interior volume and larger cross sectional air "reserve" for the turbo to pull from above the filter. The elbows are being designed to fit under the OEM intake duct and will mate to the 2.75 tube that is being measured in the picture above.
as you can see we maxed out the available room, so much so that the original OEM elbow fits INSIDE our elbow. We just finished the passenger side prototype yesterday and will commence on the driver side. Getting 90 degree silicone elbows wont work for a clean look, in order to tuck under the ductwork, avoid engine parts, and provide the most volume. just another option for those who want somthing OEM like. Since we just finished the 1st prototype we hope by end of September for the Luxe box.
see CAD Pics below
as you can see we maxed out the available room, so much so that the original OEM elbow fits INSIDE our elbow. We just finished the passenger side prototype yesterday and will commence on the driver side. Getting 90 degree silicone elbows wont work for a clean look, in order to tuck under the ductwork, avoid engine parts, and provide the most volume. just another option for those who want somthing OEM like. Since we just finished the 1st prototype we hope by end of September for the Luxe box.
see CAD Pics below
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thanks for the compliments:! yes: please stay tuned and follow and like our FB for more updates on the Luxe box. these will be 3d printed on our $10k machine. cool stuff.
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@RichardCranium3 yes- we will address that in another thread once we get the filters in. for the other folks: here is the hard copy of the passenger power elbow.
look at that fat boy! -FYI we increased the interior volume +2% from the last iteration in the CAD drawing. This ultimately will come with silicone couplers to mate the 2 sections.
look at that fat boy! -FYI we increased the interior volume +2% from the last iteration in the CAD drawing. This ultimately will come with silicone couplers to mate the 2 sections.
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@RichardCranium3 yes- we will address that in another thread once we get the filters in. for the other folks: here is the hard copy of the passenger power elbow.
look at that fat boy! -FYI we increased the interior volume +2% from the last iteration in the CAD drawing. This ultimately will come with silicone couplers to mate the 2 sections.
look at that fat boy! -FYI we increased the interior volume +2% from the last iteration in the CAD drawing. This ultimately will come with silicone couplers to mate the 2 sections.
Nino
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So these tubes will use the stock filter boxes? Or the Lux boxes will replace everything?
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I don’t think that’s what the the new pipes are for….but I could be misinterpreting @LogosMotorworks
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No @Darrington you're right. These are replacing the stock turbo pipes that lead to the standard air box. Basically pushing more air into it without having to do a complete system like that one and the BMS one.
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This new product has nothing to do with our front air intakes- like you pictured. This is a brand new offering.
basically replacing both turbo inlets and swelling them as large as they can under the duct- along with a new airbox top. If you look at your airbox top- it breathers through this tiny triangle of an opening.
The Luxe box will have the elbows and new air box tops that make them tall and huge. In essence we are increasing the volume of "reserve air" the elbows can draw from by crating a larger "chamber" within the top of the airbox. We may (still debating) do a new air duct as a add on, that will be larger/ do away with the sound baffle inside of it (yes there are sound baffles inside your stock air duct right now).
Having the larger duct will enable us to make the elbows even bigger.
see how much room there is to make the top of the airbox taller therefore increasing interior volume? (see pic below) -this mod is aimed at the more conservative Luxury oriented modder.
basically replacing both turbo inlets and swelling them as large as they can under the duct- along with a new airbox top. If you look at your airbox top- it breathers through this tiny triangle of an opening.
The Luxe box will have the elbows and new air box tops that make them tall and huge. In essence we are increasing the volume of "reserve air" the elbows can draw from by crating a larger "chamber" within the top of the airbox. We may (still debating) do a new air duct as a add on, that will be larger/ do away with the sound baffle inside of it (yes there are sound baffles inside your stock air duct right now).
Having the larger duct will enable us to make the elbows even bigger.
see how much room there is to make the top of the airbox taller therefore increasing interior volume? (see pic below) -this mod is aimed at the more conservative Luxury oriented modder.
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@LogosMotorworks Any update on your inventory for your air Intakes? (the standard and the Luxe Box)
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