E63 vs the C63
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I believe a slightly tuned/modified C63, meaning ECU, intake and headers should be able to take a STOCK E63 from 0-60, 1/4 mile, and highway runs. But hey, who knows....
A modified C63 verse a modified E63 may be a different story. The point is we won't know until, the C63 actaully comes out. Until then, we can speculate and predict all we want, but there is no hard data.
Anyway, Rebellax, the C63 should be a great car and very very fast. Easily modifed to over 500 ponies. The 2008 Corvette C6, which has a few more hp than the past C6's, may be a lil less than the C63. Or get a Z06 and you will smoke everything!
A modified C63 verse a modified E63 may be a different story. The point is we won't know until, the C63 actaully comes out. Until then, we can speculate and predict all we want, but there is no hard data.
Anyway, Rebellax, the C63 should be a great car and very very fast. Easily modifed to over 500 ponies. The 2008 Corvette C6, which has a few more hp than the past C6's, may be a lil less than the C63. Or get a Z06 and you will smoke everything!
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Benz quotes identical acceleration times (4.5 sec 0-100 km/h) for both the E63 and the new C63 on its website. Does that settle it?
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Since you want a 4 door that will smoke everything, you can get a low mileage E55 AMG and show your dad that he should have stuck with the V8 Kompressor 
With a pulley, ECU, headers, and throttle body, you will destroy the RS4 and E63.
C63 will be a very fast car and probably with just an ECU you will be able to run even with or take your dad's E63.
If ALL you care about is speed and you need 4 doors, modded Evos and STi's are the way to go.
I remember I used to compete against my father when he had the SL55 and I had the CLK500. I finally got around to that after getting the ecu tuned, exhaust, air filters, and nitrous oxide installed, good times
, sometimes I miss the simplicity of being 16 years old.
Have fun
With a pulley, ECU, headers, and throttle body, you will destroy the RS4 and E63.
C63 will be a very fast car and probably with just an ECU you will be able to run even with or take your dad's E63.
If ALL you care about is speed and you need 4 doors, modded Evos and STi's are the way to go.
I remember I used to compete against my father when he had the SL55 and I had the CLK500. I finally got around to that after getting the ecu tuned, exhaust, air filters, and nitrous oxide installed, good times
, sometimes I miss the simplicity of being 16 years old.Have fun
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How sad
. And here I thought the Orange County was all about spoiled rich kids living the "image".
Here's the way I see it. Dad worked hard to earn his E63. So did the neighbors. Before you feel the need to be better than Dad, try out-working him to earn your own E or C or whatever you want. And, it is not "obvious" why you have to be faster than Dad (when he is paying for the car in the first place) or the neighbors/friends.
Hopefully, by the time you earn it, you will have matured to the point you don't suffer from odd form of P-nis envy.
. And here I thought the Orange County was all about spoiled rich kids living the "image".Here's the way I see it. Dad worked hard to earn his E63. So did the neighbors. Before you feel the need to be better than Dad, try out-working him to earn your own E or C or whatever you want. And, it is not "obvious" why you have to be faster than Dad (when he is paying for the car in the first place) or the neighbors/friends.
Hopefully, by the time you earn it, you will have matured to the point you don't suffer from odd form of P-nis envy.
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And why not? The C63 has 457 Horses at 443 ft lb torque.
The E63 has 507 horsepower at 465 ft lb torque.
Sure the E class may weigh more but according to some stats I read, the E has a slightly better weight to power distribution ratio than the lighter more nimble C.
The C63 weighs 3650 lbs curb. The E63 is at around 4100 lbs curb.
My bet is still on the E. And why would Mercedes make the cheaper lower class of competition C faster than the higher E?
The E63 has 507 horsepower at 465 ft lb torque.
Sure the E class may weigh more but according to some stats I read, the E has a slightly better weight to power distribution ratio than the lighter more nimble C.
The C63 weighs 3650 lbs curb. The E63 is at around 4100 lbs curb.
My bet is still on the E. And why would Mercedes make the cheaper lower class of competition C faster than the higher E?
Now, stock vs. stock they will most likely be about side by side 0-60 and 1/4 mile wise, but MB will post the results as the E63 being slightly quicker and faster. It's the more expensive car....can't have a cheaper car beating it on paper.
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My feeling has always been nothing says entry level, no matter what trim, like a C-class. This has long been the ******* child of Mercedes-Benz and always will be. Where a company like BMW survives on its 3-series, a company like MB puts as little thought as possible into the C-class and merely attempts to target 20% or less of the market. That being said, a C-class is not a status symbol, so if you want a fast car that will turn heads, you need to find a different tool of choice. This may be hard for some of you to read, but just accept it. My recommendation to achieve what you desire is get a Porsche and mod the S*** out of it.
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You must be new to Mercedes-Benz. Their Bread and Butter Car (Volume) was the E-Class years ago. In the 1980's & 1990's and prior to the W203 C-Class which hit in 2001. The so-called Baby Benz in the W201 and W202 was sold much less than the W203. The E-Class (W124 & W210) used to be Volume Leader.
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OK. I think I just misunderstood what you meant. Sorry, I thought what you meant by "past" was a few years ago, instead of prior W203 era.
But looks like E-class sales are closing the gap and it actually outsold W203 last year. It'll be interesting to see the numbers for next year with the new W204 in the picture.
But looks like E-class sales are closing the gap and it actually outsold W203 last year. It'll be interesting to see the numbers for next year with the new W204 in the picture.
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E63 vs C63 Performance
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...E63&class=08_E
E63 0-60 mph = 4.3
C63/CLK63 0-60 mph = 4.5
Stock vs Stock, the E63 will be faster, but as soon as the C63 gets detuned, it will KILL the E63 mainly due to the weight advantage.
Modded vs Modded, the C63 will still beat the E63.
The C63 will remain THE FASTEST 63 model until the SLK63 steps in....
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.2 seconds difference between 0-60 times isn't much of a difference in real day driving. Thats a drivers race and re-action time to the gas pedal nuance. Any one know if you can take a few lbs off the C63. 150 lbs lighter should do the trick. Also did you guys forget about handeling. The c63 is more of a sports handling car compared to its big brother e class. e class is much nicer inside, quiter, roomier and supel. But for driving fun c all the way.
I was looking at a cls55 a year or so old. But for the same money, I get a more aggresive looking car, faster with better handling, and looks worlds better than the current e class, althought I must say the cls is a work of art.
I'm getting the c63 and when I see an e63 or what ever. I'm going to do my own test.
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I’d say stock vs stock in reality it’ll be really close, driver’s race. Mod vs mod, C63 will beat E63 slightly.
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Yup we all know that. Apart from the initial question asked by the original OP, there is another topic here, which to discuss what AMG does to “mortal” customers on paper vs reality. Performance wise, the data favors the E63 by .2 seconds on paper, but that could be just for marketing purposes, just like E55/SL55 case. In reality, nobody knows which one is quicker between the two until C63 is released, dynoed and trapped on the same day / weather / location side by side with E63.
I’d say stock vs stock in reality it’ll be really close, driver’s race. Mod vs mod, C63 will beat E63 slightly.
I’d say stock vs stock in reality it’ll be really close, driver’s race. Mod vs mod, C63 will beat E63 slightly.
I've been building the case that my wife really needs her C55 replaced, but she's not yet convinced. My fear is that the C63-030 (which is what "she" really needs) will ride pretty rough and I'll be toast.
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I would say the b a s t a r d child of the MB range would be the smarts followed by the A and B Classes, the C class is where they make a lot of money.
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Why do people compare a MODDED C63 to the stock E63 when comparing the two? That's not fair. A modded out Honda Civic can be made to be faster than a Ferrari. Stock for stock, I'm sure the E63 will have a slight advantage.
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It's not quite the same. The C63 and E63 have the same engine, only the C63's has been detuned specifically to keep it from embarrassing the more expensive E63. Removing marketing-imposed limitations isn't like adding a supercharger or nitrous. Yes, it's not comparing bone stock, but it's not exactly apples and oranges.
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So in the same vein, one can argue that the E63 has a de-tuned version of the S/CL 6.3 so you can mod it also? Where do you stop? For comparison purposes, one should only compare stock to stock.
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Based on reviews from magazines and webzines so far, the C63 has been pretty amazing and people start comparing it to the E63, thanks to a near identical engine system. A few years ago nobody even thought about C55 vs E55.
I would like to see how C63 performs against E63 and E55, on a 1/4 mile drag strip, I wouldn't be surprised if the E55 walked away slowly and steadily.
I think we’re pretty much on the same page about who would be in the front on a real race track.
I would like to see how C63 performs against E63 and E55, on a 1/4 mile drag strip, I wouldn't be surprised if the E55 walked away slowly and steadily.
I think we’re pretty much on the same page about who would be in the front on a real race track.
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Because the E63 and the C63 have the same engine, I think they will essentially produce the same power, and both will be tunable to 550 - 560 crank hp. What gives the C63 most advantage is size and weight. Essentially, you have two cars producing same hp but one (C63) weights 300 to 500 lbs less.
So stock vs stock, E63 is slightly faster,
but modded vs modded, the C63 will probably destroy the E63.
Please note however that the E63 has a MUCH BETTER ride quality, material quality (specially interior), feel, even stability, and 10 times better looks. The front-end of the C-Class looks good, but the back is identical to Hundai and other cheap cars; just NOT that unique!
So stock vs stock, E63 is slightly faster,
but modded vs modded, the C63 will probably destroy the E63.
Please note however that the E63 has a MUCH BETTER ride quality, material quality (specially interior), feel, even stability, and 10 times better looks. The front-end of the C-Class looks good, but the back is identical to Hundai and other cheap cars; just NOT that unique!
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Well according to several tests (Car & EVO Magazines) and MB's own data the C63 is faster. Less weight makes up for the slight power disadvantage. I can't wait to see what the C63 Black Edition will be like.
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We'll have to weight for more magazine tests to see actual numbers of the C63 stock
