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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by slammer111
Would that giant markup have anything to do with the falling US dollar? I know MB USA just raised prices for certain parts across the board on January 1 for that reason.
I don't think so. The dealers buy the car from the factory at invoice and anything above that goes into the dealerships coffers. If the value of the dollar were raising the price, it would be reflected in the MSRP...not as a "market adjustment". Theoretically, if BMW was making less on the M3 in the US than other markets due to the value of the dollar, they'd adjust their supply down to limit their exposure, which would drive supply & demand out of wack causing more "market adjustments". But, given the aggregate demand in the US I don't think that's the case and it's just dealer greed...plain and simple. The ones I feel sorry for are those who put down a deposit months to a year ago on these with a agreement to buy at MSRP only to find the dealer demanding $20k more when it comes time to fill out the formal order.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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dont know if anyone posted this yet but:

whoever spends $97k+ on this rather then a used SL65 deserves to get

>70k is even too much if you ask me
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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dealers will always ask for crazy mark-up, it depends on the buyer to negotiate. dealers know they wont get that price. they just want to set your mind so that if you paid msrp or 2k over msrp, you'd still think you got a good deal, while they already made good profit. i just picked up an evo x, asking was 5k over msrp, got it for waaay below msrp. i know it's not exactly the same market but they're both mass produced cars. happy hustling!!!
Did you get the MR? The transmission sounds pretty good from most of the car mage reviews.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by slammer111
Would that giant markup have anything to do with the falling US dollar? I know MB USA just raised prices for certain parts across the board on January 1 for that reason.
no. if the exchange were an issue, BMW would adjust the MSRP accordingly. they do that from time to time on their web site, i've noticed. dealer markup is exactly what it sounds like: pure cream from the dum-dums with more money than brains that like to brag that they've got Teh Hot New Kahr before anyone else does.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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The local dealers are asking MSRP!

What the hell??

BTW - I drove the M3 and it is quite a mean machine!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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This is how much it is in Vancouver, BC Canada

http://www.westportmotorcars.com/inv...php?car_id=337
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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This is how much it is in Vancouver, BC Canada

http://www.westportmotorcars.com/inv...php?car_id=337



sorry, but no one cares about canadia, cuz canada sux


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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AdaMBombC32G
dont know if anyone posted this yet but:

whoever spends $97k+ on this rather then a used SL65 deserves to get

>70k is even too much if you ask me
Or even M6 for that matter...
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ProV1
sorry, but no one cares about canadia, cuz canada sux



The CDN economy is much stronger than you guys....big slowdown for the USA.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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Or even M6 for that matter...


god bless you man
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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They don't have that mark up at BMW Manhattan. Theres a blue on at the Wall st store and its far from loaded but its going out at sticker
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NY C32
They don't have that mark up at BMW Manhattan. Theres a blue on at the Wall st store and its far from loaded but its going out at sticker
Same thing here in Philly. I drove by BMW of the Main Line and decided to stop by. They had a blue one as well--don't recall all of the options, but the sticker was $67K and they had no markup beyond that.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Autoblog
2008 BMW M3 Coupe being marked up to $100,000:


"We've been getting reports from all over that the 2008 BMW M3 Coupe has begun to arrive in U.S. dealerships.

Dealers, however, have also begun taking advantage of the high interest in these Bavarian über coupes by marking up the price. Since we couldn't just take everyone's word for the extreme mark ups, we had to wait until someone surfaced with proof, which came today.

Dragtimes.com is hosting an image of a brand spanking new M3 sitting in an unidentified California dealer at Century West BMW in North Hollywood, CA with a window sticker displaying the car's $70,720 MSRP plus a $30,000 mark up.

The extra monies demanded by the dealer is labeled as a "Dealer Market Adjustment" on the window sticker, which makes it seem like a special options package with heated seats and an extra cup holder.

Rather, it's the reality that this dealer and many others know that someone out there will pay that much for a new 2008 BMW M3 Coupe.

But as good a sports car as it the new M3 undoubtedly is, would you pay over $100,000 for it?"

After California taxes are included, the car comes out to $109,000.

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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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This car is so not worth it. And if you live in southern Cali where dealers are asking this kind of extra cash why not call some place in the country that has them sitting around and buy it there for sticker. With what you save you could pay to ship the car and a first class flight to go see it.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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The reason these dealers do this is because of their location. As stupid as it seems they know that there's a possibilty someone will pay it.

Remember these areas have neighborhoods where people will buy one at those prices just so they can say to their friends and neighbors. "I bought my kid one of those new BMWs and paid an extra $30,000 for it"!

There are parts of society that actually consider this a good thing. Beleive me I'm not complementing them for it. It's just fact.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pmb600
This car is so not worth it. And if you live in southern Cali where dealers are asking this kind of extra cash why not call some place in the country that has them sitting around and buy it there for sticker. With what you save you could pay to ship the car and a first class flight to go see it.

Originally Posted by C63ForMe
The reason these dealers do this is because of their location. As stupid as it seems they know that there's a possibilty someone will pay it.

Remember these areas have neighborhoods where people will buy one at those prices just so they can say to their friends and neighbors. "I bought my kid one of those new BMWs and paid an extra $30,000 for it"!

There are parts of society that actually consider this a good thing. Beleive me I'm not complementing them for it. It's just fact.
There's no doubt that the car culture in CA and FL is more pronounced than other parts of the country. Paying a premium to be one of the first to own one is part of that but an extra $30k puts it into a different demographic. In all seriousness, if I was going to spend $100k for a performance car, an M3 wouldn't be on my list.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Nope...standard on the c-class, C63, and Honda Civic. The issue of the car alarm was my 'go to hell' moment with the bmw dealer when he told me it didn't come standard and how much they charge for it. BMW USA either A) doesn't know how crappy it makes them look or B) don't care because the dealers love charging for it. More likely, the dealers probably like it because it's something cheap and easy they can "throw in" so it feels like they're giving you a break while it's all really crap. What's so funny about it to me is the 3-series, like all BMWs have that hideous giant red alarm light hanging from the rear view mirror, yet it's useless unless you buy the $900 car alarm. No idea if it blinks without an alarm.

If you ever get into a 335i, look at the little empty plastic dohickey slightly behind the driver's head in the middle...what's where it's supposed to go. Here's a pic...it's the off-colored red thing with the slits in it right in front of the rear interior lights.
damn, $900 for an alarm on the M3? What's up with that. They only want like $400 for the standard 3-series. My previous 330 coupe, I just picked up the alarm from a dealership online for around $200, installed it myself since it's all pre-wired and takes about 45 minutes to install, and paid the dealer $50 to program it. I even spliced in a shock sensor which worked awesome. I just ordered a new E92 coupe (not M3) and intend to do the same. Found the alarm at Tischer BMW for $230. I think it should be standard, but I'll pay more for it as it's one of the best and coolest alarms I've had. Love the motion sensor too inside the car. Leave the windows rolled down and as soon as a hand gets past the window trim, triggers the alarm
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Dealers do what they can get away with... My closest dealer (Vista in Pompano Beach, FL), had a $25k mark up a week ago.. Now it's down to $10k... I guess even in FL folks are reluctant to pay M5 or M6 money for a M3 and rightfully so!!!
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NY C32


There's no doubt that the car culture in CA and FL is more pronounced than other parts of the country. Paying a premium to be one of the first to own one is part of that but an extra $30k puts it into a different demographic. In all seriousness, if I was going to spend $100k for a performance car, an M3 wouldn't be on my list.
Exactly my point. There is a different demographic in certain parts of the country that would actually pay what most people would consider a ridiculous premium.

When the E46 M3 first came out people in FL were paying $15k premiums eventhough there was only one color available. I refused to pay a premium so I waited 6 months, ordered exactly what I wanted, and payed below MSRP.

Call them whatever you want. But there are people out there that will pay these premiums. Some people pay thousands of dollars for a purse!
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Exactly my point. There is a different demographic in certain parts of the country that would actually pay what most people would consider a ridiculous premium.

When the E46 M3 first came out people in FL were paying $15k premiums eventhough there was only one color available. I refused to pay a premium so I waited 6 months, ordered exactly what I wanted, and payed below MSRP.

Call them whatever you want. But there are people out there that will pay these premiums. Some people pay thousands of dollars for a purse!
So they hope... Like the example of BMW Pompano, they started with $25k premium, now its down to $10k. Most people with money are smarter than that.
As far as paying thousands for a purse, thats fine by me. Paying more for an M3 than an M5/6 isn't
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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M3 for $97,828.95 plus tax

LOL!!
Here were I live they have 2 M3s for $70K out the door in BMW of Mountain View, CA
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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So they hope... Like the example of BMW Pompano, they started with $25k premium, now its down to $10k. Most people with money are smarter than that.
As far as paying thousands for a purse, thats fine by me.
Paying more for an M3 than an M5/6 isn't
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Most people with money are smarter than that.
The problem is, those people have children.
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