Reasons to buy a C63 over an M3?
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Maybe I misunderstood you but the M-DCT for the BMW M3 has SEVEN gears.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ble_auto_shows
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ble_auto_shows
I'm a BMW owner. I went looking for a C63 AMG forum, and stumbled in here. I'm debating the E90 M3 versus C63 like obviously a lot of you are.
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reading that sentence a few times, thinking about the fact that these are basically family sedans with bigger engines and performance bits bolted on, i have to say it's one of the greatest quotations of all time. it covers everything from the sublime to the ridiculous about these two cars.
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reading that sentence a few times, thinking about the fact that these are basically family sedans with bigger engines and performance bits bolted on, i have to say it's one of the greatest quotations of all time. it covers everything from the sublime to the ridiculous about these two cars.
Both of these cars would be considered among the fastest supercars just a few years ago.
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I will agree with everyone here about pricing. The M3 you're talking about will likely be in the $75k range. I've seen some dealers in the LA area even marking up the price to $85k 
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I'm not sure where everyone is getting the 75k figure from. Built to those specs it comes in around 70-71k. There are no markups where I live.
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but those chipped 335's are just not ECU alone. Its exhaust, down pipes, CAI, and race gas. Hardly your everyday car and not covered under warranty.
The fastest 335 so far was able to edge out a pulley E55 with 20's and only putting down 400RWHP.
That would be Walk U's E90 sedan that has all the mods available.
The E55 had a pulley and FM HE, but for some reason its not putting the power as it should.
In fact the 335 could not hold boost for 2 runs and lost but once it was able to hold 15lbs it pulled the E55 by 1 car before the E55 had to abort.
So you see.. even a FULLY modded 335 will have issues on the open road.
You are barking on the wrong tree my friend.. and you definately not sounding very educated on your responses.
The fastest 335 so far was able to edge out a pulley E55 with 20's and only putting down 400RWHP.
That would be Walk U's E90 sedan that has all the mods available.
The E55 had a pulley and FM HE, but for some reason its not putting the power as it should.
In fact the 335 could not hold boost for 2 runs and lost but once it was able to hold 15lbs it pulled the E55 by 1 car before the E55 had to abort.
So you see.. even a FULLY modded 335 will have issues on the open road.
You are barking on the wrong tree my friend.. and you definately not sounding very educated on your responses.
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Why? Because I am saying the M3 may be the overall superior vehicle? Its funny how I get to experience the two extremes from this and the M3 forums. The typical M3 fanboys refuse to belive there are cars faster than/better than the M3. However, its not as bad in this forum, but I can still feel to an extent that people get very defensive when comparing the two. For the record, I have never owned a BMW and my family drives Mercedes. So if anything, I am biased towards Mercedes.
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Even looking to a buy A X5 3L Turbo Diesel
I read the posts everyday.
no harm in comments.. but you cant just say 460lbs of torque without qualifying your statement. You refered to 460 to the wheels or to the crank?
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looking to buy a 135 for my daily driver.. I'm all over the N54 engine.
Even looking to a buy A X5 3L Turbo Diesel
I read the posts everyday.
no harm in comments.. but you cant just say 460lbs of torque without qualifying your statement. You refered to 460 to the wheels or to the crank?
Even looking to a buy A X5 3L Turbo Diesel
I read the posts everyday.
no harm in comments.. but you cant just say 460lbs of torque without qualifying your statement. You refered to 460 to the wheels or to the crank?
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The tuned N54 is definately one the hottest engines around
have you ever tuned a 2jz-gte?
And finally...everyone will have an M3.
the N54! is the hottest engine! Thats what you need!
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Some videos of the DCT in action (and yes..it has 7 sp)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmGQ...d.php?t=132061
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7tw...d.php?t=132061
I'm so torn between the C and the 3. We already have a highway crusher in the E55, so it might make more sense to get the M. But:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eOLq07VwSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmGQ...d.php?t=132061
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7tw...d.php?t=132061
I'm so torn between the C and the 3. We already have a highway crusher in the E55, so it might make more sense to get the M. But:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eOLq07VwSE
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Some videos of the DCT in action (and yes..it has 7 sp)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmGQ...d.php?t=132061
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7tw...d.php?t=132061
I'm so torn between the C and the 3. We already have a highway crusher in the E55, so it might make more sense to get the M. But:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eOLq07VwSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmGQ...d.php?t=132061
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7tw...d.php?t=132061
I'm so torn between the C and the 3. We already have a highway crusher in the E55, so it might make more sense to get the M. But:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eOLq07VwSE
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Looks like there is already a stroker kit from Dinan to bring the M3 to around 520hp.... Granted it won't be cheap, but at least Dinan warranties their modifications.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlYY6GXkGps&feature=user
Also a company by the name of Kelleners has ecu tuning along with exhaust upgrades to bring the M3 to 454hp...
http://www.kelleners-sport.com/english/index_d.htm
Can't wait to see what is in store for the C63.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlYY6GXkGps&feature=user
Also a company by the name of Kelleners has ecu tuning along with exhaust upgrades to bring the M3 to 454hp...
http://www.kelleners-sport.com/english/index_d.htm
Can't wait to see what is in store for the C63.
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Wow, didn't expect members on this forum are talking about the 335i. I happen to have an E90 335i also, and while it's a very very good engine, I wouldn't go as far as to put it's the hottest out there. Sure with a piggyback/flash and an exhaust plus intake, the car would be in the 12s, then what? Those tiny turbos are so small I bet my wife could pick one up with one hand, there's no "real" turbo kit avaliable yet, only seen one prototype kit by VIP, not to mention couple of people are saying their wastegates are making funny ticking noises, in which I pointed out what the problem might be and describing the real fix for it, but people think they know everything and can fix anything and deleted my post. To cut this short, here's what I see over on e90post: Most members are aggrogant *****s with too much pride in themselves, aftermarket companies aren't that great because their piggybacks & downpipes are cheap pieces which cause a lot of trouble, and lastly, freedom of speech doesn't exist over there. Even with all the crap going on over there, I still love my 335i, because it's ready everyday for work sites punishment.
Back on subject, C63 all the way, however, if the M3 sedan can come with a carbon fiber roof, vice versa.
Back on subject, C63 all the way, however, if the M3 sedan can come with a carbon fiber roof, vice versa.
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Yeah, consider all the others are much better, but put yourself in my shoes, would you want to drive one of the AMGs from my list to one of the construction sites I've got in Queens? I wouldn't. This is my perfect drive without worries piece.
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Wow, didn't expect members on this forum are talking about the 335i. I happen to have an E90 335i also, and while it's a very very good engine, I wouldn't go as far as to put it's the hottest out there. Sure with a piggyback/flash and an exhaust plus intake, the car would be in the 12s, then what? Those tiny turbos are so small I bet my wife could pick one up with one hand, there's no "real" turbo kit avaliable yet, only seen one prototype kit by VIP, not to mention couple of people are saying their wastegates are making funny ticking noises, in which I pointed out what the problem might be and describing the real fix for it, but people think they know everything and can fix anything and deleted my post. To cut this short, here's what I see over on e90post: Most members are aggrogant *****s with too much pride in themselves, aftermarket companies aren't that great because their piggybacks & downpipes are cheap pieces which cause a lot of trouble, and lastly, freedom of speech doesn't exist over there. Even with all the crap going on over there, I still love my 335i, because it's ready everyday for work sites punishment.
Back on subject, C63 all the way, however, if the M3 sedan can come with a carbon fiber roof, vice versa.
Back on subject, C63 all the way, however, if the M3 sedan can come with a carbon fiber roof, vice versa.
Nice collection of cars
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I see there is a little discussion of 335i tuning going on in this thread. I currently have a 335i sedan which has the Dinan Stage 1 ECU flash. The numbers for this flash at the crank are 384hp and 421tq. At the wheels, the flash has been putting up ~335whp and ~370wtq. There is a Dinan Stage 2 Flash/FMIC package coming out which will set the crank numbers at 407hp and 430tq. Pretty exciting stuff. All of that being said though, I am still looking at getting into the C63 when my lease runs out.
