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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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The GT-R V-Spec that some of you said you wanna get has lapped the Nurburgring in atleast 7 min. 20 sec. or faster, and is atleast 300 lbs. lighter than the standard GT-R. It will cost about $20,000 more than the normal GT-R.

That's atleast 18 seconds faster around the 'Ring than the Standard GT-R. What will the 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times be for the V-Spec also?

Damn, if the V-Spec is this fast what will the V-Spec "Evo" be able to do? 7 min. 0 sec. around the ring?

All carmakers will for sure have to up their game now to stay competitive, especially since the V-Spec should come in below $100,000 U.S. Dollars. Will the ZR-1 be able to do it in better than 7:20 or 7:15? What about the upcoming Ferrari F460 update? Any production Porsches?
Looks like we may need AMG to twin-turbo the V-8 and come out with lighter models and such also....

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The ZR-1 is a very close competitor to the V-Spec GT-R. What did the normal Z06 lap the ring at? Anyone remembers? I think what Nissan is doing here is to beat Porsche GT-2's time, and times set by other exotics.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Z06 got 7:42.

GT-2 got it in 7:32 (standard GT-R got 7:38), V-Spec got 7:20 and faster in some cases.

Walter Rohrl got a 7:28 in a Carrera GT once (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=10073#), and he got a 7:31 once in the GT-2.

Couldn't find any 'Ring times for the 430 Scuderia yet, but it should be able to tie the GT-2.

The V-Spec's times are faster than all so far.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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ZR1 will struggle to transmit all theta RWD power to the ground given low weight.

AWD is of particular benefit at the bumpy Ring. Try a smooth circuit like Silverstone and the GTR won't run rings (no pun intended) around the GT2 and Scuderia

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The GT-R V-Spec that some of you said you wanna get has lapped the Nurburgring in atleast 7 min. 20 sec. or faster, and is atleast 300 lbs. lighter than the standard GT-R. It will cost about $20,000 more than the normal GT-R.

That's atleast 18 seconds faster around the 'Ring than the Standard GT-R. What will the 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times be for the V-Spec also?

Damn, if the V-Spec is this fast what will the V-Spec "Evo" be able to do? 7 min. 0 sec. around the ring?

All carmakers will for sure have to up their game now to stay competitive, especially since the V-Spec should come in below $100,000 U.S. Dollars. Will the ZR-1 be able to do it in better than 7:20 or 7:15? What about the upcoming Ferrari F460 update? Any production Porsches?
Looks like we may need AMG to twin-turbo the V-8 and come out with lighter models and such also....

http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/04/09...dard-godzilla/
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It is no secret that the cars Nissan tests at the ring are stripped out versions running on race suspension and race tires and have close to 700hp to achieve these numbers. These are not production cars that will be sold to consumers and its a real shame that Nissan is resorting to these shady tactics to "wow" misinformed consumers. Let's see what Porsche GT3 RSR's run, that would be a better comparison.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Wow is that true? That would be a shame if thats true I agree! Is there any solid concrete evidence out there to show that they are in fact doing these things? If so, I will lose alot of respect for Nissan.
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It is no secret that the cars Nissan tests at the ring are stripped out versions running on race suspension and race tires and have close to 700hp to achieve these numbers. These are not production cars that will be sold to consumers and its a real shame that Nissan is resorting to these shady tactics to "wow" misinformed consumers. Let's see what Porsche GT3 RSR's run, that would be a better comparison.


Addicted2Speed, I'm sorry but that is just plain wrong. The naysayers we're spewing that junk when the original GTR bested the 911 turbo's times on the ring. With the whole cut racing slicks and stripped out interiors when you can clearly see full out interiors and tread patterns on the tires in more than a few shots.

And unless you refute the fact that every magazine that has tested the current PRODUCTION GTR's and have bested the 911 turbo's and Z06's by either small or wide margins. Note the 5 second advantage R&T managed to pull when they pitted the Z06 and 911 turbo against the GTR on a 2 min track.

It's uniformed individuals like yourselves which propagate this misinformation for whatever reason whether it be some underlying inferiority complex or just an overall lack of reading comprehension. It's no secret that all the naysayers have been coming up with unsubstantiated crap like this since day 1 when the GTR started showing their performance figures and numbers.


I suppose you think that the GTR timed video was also a farce because it only ran the 20.6 km running start which every other manufacturer runs when timing their cars. Or perhaps because of a translation error cut racing slicks were used. Or maybe you're one of those people that said lets wait until a reputable publication tests these, and when they actually came out with evidence proving that the GTR's numbers didn't come from a "stripped out" 700hp race car disguised to impress the general public, you started crying foul about sandbagging, and prepped manufacturer cars. But wait, the GTR that's been tested extensively in the UK was a privately owned vehicle.

Before typing maybe you should actually do research on the competition or you can risk looking like a blind fanboy.

The vspec gtr is going to be a stripped down version of the base GTR with weight savings coming from the deletion of the rear seats and extensive use of carbon fiber for the majority of the body panels. They're looking to lop off anywhere between 200-500lbs and upping the horsepower to at least 550hp.

Which brings up another point of the base PRODUCTION MODEL GTR actually being dyno tested to produce more than the claimed 480hp. I put the production model in big letters so you can't go "AHA! see they use pre production cars with like 700hp and stripped out with flux capacitors shoved in the trunk angle".

I was skeptical at first when the GTR posted 7:38 ring times, but obviously short gearing, awd and an engine producing more than 480hp in the production car, are the reasons the GTR is such a potent competitor. Yes it may not have the emotive passion of the other cars, its distinctly japanese but as a vehicle to guy plain out fast in its readily accessible to everyone and it will give cars that cost upwards of double it's price a run for their money in terms of performance. I apologize for the lengthly reply, but try to refrain from using heresay and passing it off as fact.


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Oh yeah and before you bring up the german auto mag which only manged to pull a 7:50 nurb lap time with the GTR vs the manufacturer tested 7:38, go look up their laptime for the 911 turbo which is 7:54 by the same driver.

edit2:

sl65 there haven't been any confirmed laptime numbers as Nissan is currently still testing various suspension setups and what not. It is certain that the vspec has run under a 7:30 laptime but the 7:20 or 7:25 claimed laptimes are just not true at the moment.

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Addicted2Speed, I'm sorry but that is just plain wrong. The naysayers we're spewing that junk when the original GTR bested the 911 turbo's times on the ring. With the whole cut racing slicks and stripped out interiors when you can clearly see full out interiors and tread patterns on the tires in more than a few shots.

And unless you refute the fact that every magazine that has tested the current PRODUCTION GTR's and have bested the 911 turbo's and Z06's by either small or wide margins. Note the 5 second advantage R&T managed to pull when they pitted the Z06 and 911 turbo against the GTR on a 2 min track.

It's uniformed individuals like yourselves which propagate this misinformation for whatever reason whether it be some underlying inferiority complex or just an overall lack of reading comprehension. It's no secret that all the naysayers have been coming up with unsubstantiated crap like this since day 1 when the GTR started showing their performance figures and numbers.


I suppose you think that the GTR timed video was also a farce because it only ran the 20.6 km running start which every other manufacturer runs when timing their cars. Or perhaps because of a translation error cut racing slicks were used. Or maybe you're one of those people that said lets wait until a reputable publication tests these, and when they actually came out with evidence proving that the GTR's numbers didn't come from a "stripped out" 700hp race car disguised to impress the general public, you started crying foul about sandbagging, and prepped manufacturer cars. But wait, the GTR that's been tested extensively in the UK was a privately owned vehicle.

Before typing maybe you should actually do research on the competition or you can risk looking like a blind fanboy.

The vspec gtr is going to be a stripped down version of the base GTR with weight savings coming from the deletion of the rear seats and extensive use of carbon fiber for the majority of the body panels. They're looking to lop off anywhere between 200-500lbs and upping the horsepower to at least 550hp.

Which brings up another point of the base PRODUCTION MODEL GTR actually being dyno tested to produce more than the claimed 480hp. I put the production model in big letters so you can't go "AHA! see they use pre production cars with like 700hp and stripped out with flux capacitors shoved in the trunk angle".

I was skeptical at first when the GTR posted 7:38 ring times, but obviously short gearing, awd and an engine producing more than 480hp in the production car, are the reasons the GTR is such a potent competitor. Yes it may not have the emotive passion of the other cars, its distinctly japanese but as a vehicle to guy plain out fast in its readily accessible to everyone and it will give cars that cost upwards of double it's price a run for their money in terms of performance. I apologize for the lengthly reply, but try to refrain from using heresay and passing it off as fact.


edit:
Oh yeah and before you bring up the german auto mag which only manged to pull a 7:50 nurb lap time with the GTR vs the manufacturer tested 7:38, go look up their laptime for the 911 turbo which is 7:54 by the same driver.

edit2:

sl65 there haven't been any confirmed laptime numbers as Nissan is currently still testing various suspension setups and what not. It is certain that the vspec has run under a 7:30 laptime but the 7:20 or 7:25 claimed laptimes are just not true at the moment.
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I still don't understand why is it hard for many people to accept the fact that Nissan is capable in making a car that perform as good or better than their German counterpart... At any rate... "it is still a Nissan!!!" ... right
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I still don't understand why is it hard for many people to accept the fact that Nissan is capable in making a car that perform as good or better than their German counterpart... At any rate... "it is still a Nissan!!!" ... right
+1...
Oh by the way, I understand that the test car at the Nordschleife has at least 1000hp at the wheels, AND it has a sophisticated GPS system that automatically drives the car throught the best available lines of each turn. I forgot to mention the racing slicks has a special compound that allows the car to be driven upside down
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Addicted2Speed, I'm sorry but that is just plain wrong. The naysayers we're spewing that junk when the original GTR bested the 911 turbo's times on the ring. With the whole cut racing slicks and stripped out interiors when you can clearly see full out interiors and tread patterns on the tires in more than a few shots.

And unless you refute the fact that every magazine that has tested the current PRODUCTION GTR's and have bested the 911 turbo's and Z06's by either small or wide margins. Note the 5 second advantage R&T managed to pull when they pitted the Z06 and 911 turbo against the GTR on a 2 min track.

It's uniformed individuals like yourselves which propagate this misinformation for whatever reason whether it be some underlying inferiority complex or just an overall lack of reading comprehension. It's no secret that all the naysayers have been coming up with unsubstantiated crap like this since day 1 when the GTR started showing their performance figures and numbers.


I suppose you think that the GTR timed video was also a farce because it only ran the 20.6 km running start which every other manufacturer runs when timing their cars. Or perhaps because of a translation error cut racing slicks were used. Or maybe you're one of those people that said lets wait until a reputable publication tests these, and when they actually came out with evidence proving that the GTR's numbers didn't come from a "stripped out" 700hp race car disguised to impress the general public, you started crying foul about sandbagging, and prepped manufacturer cars. But wait, the GTR that's been tested extensively in the UK was a privately owned vehicle.

Before typing maybe you should actually do research on the competition or you can risk looking like a blind fanboy.

The vspec gtr is going to be a stripped down version of the base GTR with weight savings coming from the deletion of the rear seats and extensive use of carbon fiber for the majority of the body panels. They're looking to lop off anywhere between 200-500lbs and upping the horsepower to at least 550hp.

Which brings up another point of the base PRODUCTION MODEL GTR actually being dyno tested to produce more than the claimed 480hp. I put the production model in big letters so you can't go "AHA! see they use pre production cars with like 700hp and stripped out with flux capacitors shoved in the trunk angle".

I was skeptical at first when the GTR posted 7:38 ring times, but obviously short gearing, awd and an engine producing more than 480hp in the production car, are the reasons the GTR is such a potent competitor. Yes it may not have the emotive passion of the other cars, its distinctly japanese but as a vehicle to guy plain out fast in its readily accessible to everyone and it will give cars that cost upwards of double it's price a run for their money in terms of performance. I apologize for the lengthly reply, but try to refrain from using heresay and passing it off as fact.


edit:
Oh yeah and before you bring up the german auto mag which only manged to pull a 7:50 nurb lap time with the GTR vs the manufacturer tested 7:38, go look up their laptime for the 911 turbo which is 7:54 by the same driver.

edit2:

sl65 there haven't been any confirmed laptime numbers as Nissan is currently still testing various suspension setups and what not. It is certain that the vspec has run under a 7:30 laptime but the 7:20 or 7:25 claimed laptimes are just not true at the moment.
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Oh by the way, I understand that the test car at the Nordschleife has at least 1000hp at the wheels, AND it has a sophisticated GPS system that automatically drives the car throught the best available lines of each turn. I forgot to mention the racing slicks has a special compound that allows the car to be driven upside down
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