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It sounds like some 63 engines have a real problem. Anything worse than a quart per 1,000 needs to be addressed, probably with a new engine.
But I can believe the engine will use more oil than most earlier AMG-modified engines, simply because it was designed from the bottom up for high-revving performance. Most 65 V12s use oil when driven in a spirited fashion. I get about a quart for 2,000 miles. Many other 65 owners have the same experience, and my SA warned me before I bought the car to expect it. He was tired of dealing with dissatisfied clients who had owned many MBs and AMGs and expected to go 10,000 miles service intervals without adding a quart. The AMG Private Lounge had a thread where AMG posted that this consumption was normal and by design for the engine.
I would expect that the 63 engine, driven often to high RPMs, would also consume a quart per 2,000 miles -- or maybe even a bit more. A quart per 500 is a problem, but don't expect a quart per 5,000 with this engine.
But I can believe the engine will use more oil than most earlier AMG-modified engines, simply because it was designed from the bottom up for high-revving performance. Most 65 V12s use oil when driven in a spirited fashion. I get about a quart for 2,000 miles. Many other 65 owners have the same experience, and my SA warned me before I bought the car to expect it. He was tired of dealing with dissatisfied clients who had owned many MBs and AMGs and expected to go 10,000 miles service intervals without adding a quart. The AMG Private Lounge had a thread where AMG posted that this consumption was normal and by design for the engine.
I would expect that the 63 engine, driven often to high RPMs, would also consume a quart per 2,000 miles -- or maybe even a bit more. A quart per 500 is a problem, but don't expect a quart per 5,000 with this engine.
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Whose 6.2L is using a quart every 500 miles? No one.
This is how internet rumours get started and people think the car has quality issues. It doesn't.
Until it affects you, and you have word from your dealer that your car has a real problem, find something else to worry about IMO.
This is how internet rumours get started and people think the car has quality issues. It doesn't.
Until it affects you, and you have word from your dealer that your car has a real problem, find something else to worry about IMO.
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jesus christ, lets all b|tch and moan like little children because a 6.2 liter naturally aspirated v8 might need a $11 quart of oil every couple (2) thousand of miles.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
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jesus christ, lets all b|tch and moan like little children because a 6.2 liter naturally aspirated v8 might need a $11 quart of oil every couple (2) thousand of miles.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
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jesus christ, lets all b|tch and moan like little children because a 6.2 liter naturally aspirated v8 might need a $11 quart of oil every couple (2) thousand of miles.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
I don't see what the fuss is either.
I may start a thread because the washer fluid will need replacing. Outrageous.
Next thing you know you'll have the put air in the tires - talking of tire, a few bucks for oil causes folks to freak out but we're all going to be about $2,000 into tires every X,000 miles... in the case of Top Gear, I think they managed 35?!
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I don't see what the fuss is either.
I may start a thread because the washer fluid will need replacing. Outrageous.
Next thing you know you'll have the put air in the tires - talking of tire, a few bucks for oil causes folks to freak out but we're all going to be about $2,000 into tires every X,000 miles... in the case of Top Gear, I think they managed 35?!
More that one quart every 3-4K miles is to much. As I said times before there are several other companies that build high performance, high revving engines that do not have this problem, EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jesus christ, lets all b|tch and moan like little children because a 6.2 liter naturally aspirated v8 might need a $11 quart of oil every couple (2) thousand of miles.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really dont deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
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As a current owner, and new to MB, I just think people posting on the internet need to use some common sense and be rational, otherwise, as a current owner, these baseless accusations are giving my car a bad rep.
First, where is the thread/post/evidence that any 6.2L is using "excessive" oil? Also, what one person considers "excessive oil use" won't matter to another.
and
More importantly, where is the evidence that an engine using any amount of oil constitutes an issue with either performance or reliability? Fill me in, I don't build engines and I don't work on them either.
When anyone's car blows up in flames because of excessive oil use, let me know...
First, where is the thread/post/evidence that any 6.2L is using "excessive" oil? Also, what one person considers "excessive oil use" won't matter to another.
and
More importantly, where is the evidence that an engine using any amount of oil constitutes an issue with either performance or reliability? Fill me in, I don't build engines and I don't work on them either.
When anyone's car blows up in flames because of excessive oil use, let me know...
Last edited by Hans Delbruck; Jun 17, 2008 at 08:46 PM.
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Steel Gray 09' C63 AMG
jesus christ, lets all b|tch and moan like little children because a 6.2 liter naturally aspirated v8 might need a $11 quart of oil every couple (2) thousand of miles.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really don't deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
WAH WAH.
My SL55 used to like eating oil too, big freakin deal. You guys whining really don't deserve to be driving this car, go buy a Honda.
Last edited by Glock Guru; Jun 17, 2008 at 08:51 PM.
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high performance engines, USE OIL. Its a fact, it doesn't mean that its a POS engine.
You seriously deserve to be driving a Honda. Oh wait, you do, and a Boxter too. You are clueless.
It must be because its a "C Class". Its attracting all the uninformed suburbanites.
You seriously deserve to be driving a Honda. Oh wait, you do, and a Boxter too. You are clueless.
It must be because its a "C Class". Its attracting all the uninformed suburbanites.
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Some more rambling but.... Both of our Boxster S's blew puffs of smoke on startup. Mine ('01 S, don't have it anymore) twice smoked for about 2 minutes straight. Once after a hard autocross run (it was likely overfilled by the dealer the week before) and once after a long trip in hot weather. Our 997 GT3 blows smoke in about 1 of every 4 startups. Everything I've read about the flat 6's indicates that the oil settles a certain way after shutdown, and that can cause smoke on the startup.
I've never worried about stuff like that though, because worrying can make you crazy, and I don't like visiting the dealer unless the car is broken or sounding like it's going to. It's hit and miss with the service monkeys. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. JMO.
I've never worried about stuff like that though, because worrying can make you crazy, and I don't like visiting the dealer unless the car is broken or sounding like it's going to. It's hit and miss with the service monkeys. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. JMO.
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Right guys , just spoke with my Main MB dealer who advised there was a letter apparently in circulation in UK or Europe advising that the C63 will use oil of between 1 to 3 litres from new to 2000miles!
I await a copy being sent & will post when this arrives, they could also be speaking bollocks on the letter.
I await a copy being sent & will post when this arrives, they could also be speaking bollocks on the letter.
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Right guys , just spoke with my Main MB dealer who advised there was a letter apparently in circulation in UK or Europe advising that the C63 will use oil of between 1 to 3 litres from new to 2000miles! I await a copy being sent & will post when this arrives, they could also be speaking bollocks on the letter.
I await a copy being sent & will post when this arrives, they could also be speaking bollocks on the letter.
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You should most certainly NOT have to add oil that frequently.My E63 is my 4th AMG & I've never had any issues like this.
The only instance where you should check&add a lil oil is after a full day of dragracing where your going W.O.T all day long...the 55k's need to be checked after an 8hr dragstrip rental,but again were talking a .5qt at best....
IMO this without a doubt has to do with ignoring the break-in procedure.All AMG engines are hand assembled,blueprinted engines w tolerances that are very very exacting;they need to be run-in properly
The only instance where you should check&add a lil oil is after a full day of dragracing where your going W.O.T all day long...the 55k's need to be checked after an 8hr dragstrip rental,but again were talking a .5qt at best....
IMO this without a doubt has to do with ignoring the break-in procedure.All AMG engines are hand assembled,blueprinted engines w tolerances that are very very exacting;they need to be run-in properly
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Holy Sh#t, I cant believe that some of you guys get so worked up about these things. I can understand not being thilled but to bash such a mirror thing concern. Its annoying but not somthing that should be a big purchase deterent. These engins are custom built, there is so much engineering in them its crazy. This car is touted as one of the kings buy guys who know cars. You sometimes have to take the good with the bad.
Its not a Japanese car! ya those cars have better life out of the engins but they also dont drive like a germen car. everyone make a very good car these days, you just have to think about what you want out of your car. Some one made mention of tire cost, hes right, it will cost more to replace your tires then cost of oil.
Lifes too short to get so mad over things like this, say what bothers you but dont make it look like the sky is falling.
Its not a Japanese car! ya those cars have better life out of the engins but they also dont drive like a germen car. everyone make a very good car these days, you just have to think about what you want out of your car. Some one made mention of tire cost, hes right, it will cost more to replace your tires then cost of oil.
Lifes too short to get so mad over things like this, say what bothers you but dont make it look like the sky is falling.
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my 63 has never consumed oil, course I change it every 5k miles. My car was driven super hard after about 800 mi. It has zero hesitation, zero performance issues after 21k miles. Cup holders suck, AC aint all that great, NAV sucks but the engine , suspension, brakes have been amazing and held up very nicely. The C63 may have more cosmetic probs but I dont suspect the drivability to be much different form other 63's , learn from experience.
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my 63 has never consumed oil, course I change it every 5k miles. My car was driven super hard after about 800 mi. It has zero hesitation, zero performance issues after 21k miles. Cup holders suck, AC aint all that great, NAV sucks but the engine , suspension, brakes have been amazing and held up very nicely. The C63 may have more cosmetic probs but I dont suspect the drivability to be much different form other 63's , learn from experience.
how do you mean cosmetic problems?
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Bet you would get worked up if you paid what we have to pay here in the UK £56K/ $110K , what is the cost of a C63 in the USA $52K /£26K [Half price,]
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