the US performance package..WTF
07-17-2008, 02:04 AM
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the US performance package..WTF
can some one with access to the AMG private lounge,
please ask one of the MB or AMG guys for an official word on the US PP
its now called the AMG Performance package LIMITED
and only lists limiter deletion, and LSD.
makes no mention of brakes, suspension, or alcantara steering wheel
i used to think that MB just didnt list the other stuff yet
but now with all these recent updates and "LIMITED" im starting to get worried
please ask one of the MB or AMG guys for an official word on the US PP
its now called the AMG Performance package LIMITED
and only lists limiter deletion, and LSD.
makes no mention of brakes, suspension, or alcantara steering wheel
i used to think that MB just didnt list the other stuff yet
but now with all these recent updates and "LIMITED" im starting to get worried
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07-17-2008, 04:27 AM
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In the UK the Performance Pack (LSD, Brakes, Suspension) is £3200
Despite the USD:£ being 2:1 we normally have to pay in pounds what you guys pay in $
The LSD is available separately here for £1700
I think it must be a printing error, or lack of full detail, because I can't imagine you'd be paying $3000 for just the diff.
Despite the USD:£ being 2:1 we normally have to pay in pounds what you guys pay in $
The LSD is available separately here for £1700
I think it must be a printing error, or lack of full detail, because I can't imagine you'd be paying $3000 for just the diff.
07-17-2008, 07:05 AM
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Everyone should take a deep breath. I'm pretty sure there were a post or two discussing the "official" contents of the US Performance Package for MY 09.
The specific details were discussed by Rob Allan, Product Manager for AMG. Months ago, he confirmed for everyone that the package would include the Alcantara steering wheel, compound setup front brake rotors, LSD, track calibrated sport suspension, and top speed delimitation to ~ 174MPH. He also confirmed for us months ago that it would cost approx $3,900.00. And.. it was all re-confirmed by my dealer before I ordered the package by MBUSA product development.
I'll take Rob's word over any website, NetStar printout, or speculation on here. This 030 package discussion is a mess.
The specific details were discussed by Rob Allan, Product Manager for AMG. Months ago, he confirmed for everyone that the package would include the Alcantara steering wheel, compound setup front brake rotors, LSD, track calibrated sport suspension, and top speed delimitation to ~ 174MPH. He also confirmed for us months ago that it would cost approx $3,900.00. And.. it was all re-confirmed by my dealer before I ordered the package by MBUSA product development.
I'll take Rob's word over any website, NetStar printout, or speculation on here. This 030 package discussion is a mess.
07-17-2008, 08:01 AM
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Everyone should take a deep breath. I'm pretty sure there were a post or two discussing the "official" contents of the US Performance Package for MY 09.
The specific details were discussed by Rob Allan, Product Manager for AMG. Months ago, he confirmed for everyone that the package would include the Alcantara steering wheel, compound setup front brake rotors, LSD, track calibrated sport suspension, and top speed delimitation to ~ 174MPH. He also confirmed for us months ago that it would cost approx $3,900.00. And.. it was all re-confirmed by my dealer before I ordered the package by MBUSA product development.
I'll take Rob's word over any website, NetStar printout, or speculation on here. This 030 package discussion is a mess.
The specific details were discussed by Rob Allan, Product Manager for AMG. Months ago, he confirmed for everyone that the package would include the Alcantara steering wheel, compound setup front brake rotors, LSD, track calibrated sport suspension, and top speed delimitation to ~ 174MPH. He also confirmed for us months ago that it would cost approx $3,900.00. And.. it was all re-confirmed by my dealer before I ordered the package by MBUSA product development.
I'll take Rob's word over any website, NetStar printout, or speculation on here. This 030 package discussion is a mess.
they couldve skimped out or changed since
07-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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RE: USA PP
What is being posted above is exactly what my order said since day 1, back in May, P30 equates to LS Diff and top speed delimiter.
Given the US PP price vs. other markets, I think getting Limited Slip and the top speed delimeter is reasonable. Remember that we are getting the same diff as the CLK Black series which equates to some $$ cost.
I am told that the US will also get the 18 inch wheels with PP, although the suspension stiffness and upgraded brakes were not clarified one way or the other. I anticipate that the US market will get the "standard" suspension and brakes with the PP, at least for now.
The "standard" C63 suspension with the LS diff will make a pretty awesome combo and will definitely ride better on our roads, especially for use as a daily driver.
But, lets wait and see what the released cars actually come with.....we will know in a couple of weeks.
Given the US PP price vs. other markets, I think getting Limited Slip and the top speed delimeter is reasonable. Remember that we are getting the same diff as the CLK Black series which equates to some $$ cost.
I am told that the US will also get the 18 inch wheels with PP, although the suspension stiffness and upgraded brakes were not clarified one way or the other. I anticipate that the US market will get the "standard" suspension and brakes with the PP, at least for now.
The "standard" C63 suspension with the LS diff will make a pretty awesome combo and will definitely ride better on our roads, especially for use as a daily driver.
But, lets wait and see what the released cars actually come with.....we will know in a couple of weeks.
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07-17-2008, 09:29 AM
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yea dude, i hope thats not the case
you can get great LSDs cheaper than 4k
if this PP is only LSD thats horrible!
MBUSA is just ABUSING us americans!!!
(again, hopefully this isnt the case)
you can get great LSDs cheaper than 4k
if this PP is only LSD thats horrible!
MBUSA is just ABUSING us americans!!!
(again, hopefully this isnt the case)
07-17-2008, 09:31 AM
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US C63 with PP: LSD, no governer, beautiful amber side reflector
other C63 with PP: LSD, brakes, suspension, 19inch rims, steering wheel, parktronics, keyless go....however, you guys dont get that gorgeous side reflector
other C63 with PP: LSD, brakes, suspension, 19inch rims, steering wheel, parktronics, keyless go....however, you guys dont get that gorgeous side reflector
07-17-2008, 10:52 AM
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What is being posted above is exactly what my order said since day 1, back in May, P30 equates to LS Diff and top speed delimiter.
Given the US PP price vs. other markets, I think getting Limited Slip and the top speed delimeter is reasonable. Remember that we are getting the same diff as the CLK Black series which equates to some $$ cost.
I am told that the US will also get the 18 inch wheels with PP, although the suspension stiffness and upgraded brakes were not clarified one way or the other. I anticipate that the US market will get the "standard" suspension and brakes with the PP, at least for now.
The "standard" C63 suspension with the LS diff will make a pretty awesome combo and will definitely ride better on our roads, especially for use as a daily driver.
But, lets wait and see what the released cars actually come with.....we will know in a couple of weeks.
Given the US PP price vs. other markets, I think getting Limited Slip and the top speed delimeter is reasonable. Remember that we are getting the same diff as the CLK Black series which equates to some $$ cost.
I am told that the US will also get the 18 inch wheels with PP, although the suspension stiffness and upgraded brakes were not clarified one way or the other. I anticipate that the US market will get the "standard" suspension and brakes with the PP, at least for now.
The "standard" C63 suspension with the LS diff will make a pretty awesome combo and will definitely ride better on our roads, especially for use as a daily driver.
But, lets wait and see what the released cars actually come with.....we will know in a couple of weeks.
the reason why the other PPs are way more expensive is because most of them come with multi-piece rims
the C63 PP is not supposed to come with rims in the US
***can someone got to the AMG lounge and RE-ask the AMG guys about this
07-17-2008, 11:59 AM
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In the UK the Performance Pack (LSD, Brakes, Suspension) is £3200
Despite the USD:£ being 2:1 we normally have to pay in pounds what you guys pay in $
The LSD is available separately here for £1700
I think it must be a printing error, or lack of full detail, because I can't imagine you'd be paying $3000 for just the diff.
Despite the USD:£ being 2:1 we normally have to pay in pounds what you guys pay in $
The LSD is available separately here for £1700
I think it must be a printing error, or lack of full detail, because I can't imagine you'd be paying $3000 for just the diff.
As far as I knew, from a friend who works at Mercedes Benz in New York, the AMG Performance Pkg (code APP) includes:
- Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion (code 251)
- Limited-Slip Rear Differential (code 471)
- AMG Carbon Fibre Trim (code H73)
- Performance Package (code P30), which includes upgraded suspension and brake, sport steering wheel.
...whatever, I guess you can wait just a few more weeks to get the actual details.Tee_Tz.
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07-17-2008, 12:31 PM
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That's not true. A CLS63 is about £73K in the U.K. and in the U.S. it is around $95K. A DVD at Asda costs £9 whereas at BestBuy it costs $19...
As far as I knew, from a friend who works at Mercedes Benz in New York, the AMG Performance Pkg (code APP) includes:
- Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion (code 251)
- Limited-Slip Rear Differential (code 471)
- AMG Carbon Fibre Trim (code H73)
- Performance Package (code P30), which includes upgraded suspension and brake, sport steering wheel.
...whatever, I guess you can wait just a few more weeks to get the actual details.
Tee_Tz.
As far as I knew, from a friend who works at Mercedes Benz in New York, the AMG Performance Pkg (code APP) includes:
- Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion (code 251)
- Limited-Slip Rear Differential (code 471)
- AMG Carbon Fibre Trim (code H73)
- Performance Package (code P30), which includes upgraded suspension and brake, sport steering wheel.
...whatever, I guess you can wait just a few more weeks to get the actual details.Tee_Tz.
07-17-2008, 01:25 PM
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Guys, at this point we're all speculating. To me, I just can't imagine Mercedes offering a performance package with just LSD. People who buy the performance package are looking for more. If they ever offer just the LSD, then I think they'll probably offer another "upgraded" performance package down the line to include some of the other stuff.
07-17-2008, 02:20 PM
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07-17-2008, 03:43 PM
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EuroCharged 2012 C63 BS Coupè
Canadian MY2009 AMG C63 P30Pkg:\ $6400.00
Option changes for the C 63 AMG…
• New AMG Performance Package
• Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion
• AMG Limited Slip Differential
• AMG Performance Suspension
• AMG High-Performance Composite Brakes
• AMG Performance Steering Wheel
(Nappa Leather with Alcantara Side Grips)
• AMG Carbon Fibre Trim
U.S. MY2009 AMG C63 P30:\ $3990.00
Option changes for the C 63 AMG…
• New AMG Performance Package
• Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion
• AMG Limited Slip Differential
• AMG Performance Suspension
• AMG High-Performance Composite Brakes
• AMG Performance Steering Wheel
(Nappa Leather with Alcantara Side Grips)
Option changes for the C 63 AMG…
• New AMG Performance Package
• Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion
• AMG Limited Slip Differential
• AMG Performance Suspension
• AMG High-Performance Composite Brakes
• AMG Performance Steering Wheel
(Nappa Leather with Alcantara Side Grips)
• AMG Carbon Fibre Trim
U.S. MY2009 AMG C63 P30:\ $3990.00
Option changes for the C 63 AMG…
• New AMG Performance Package
• Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion
• AMG Limited Slip Differential
• AMG Performance Suspension
• AMG High-Performance Composite Brakes
• AMG Performance Steering Wheel
(Nappa Leather with Alcantara Side Grips)
07-17-2008, 03:51 PM
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
now theres a source i can trust!
looks like its copy and pasted from something official
thanks man, i appreciate it !
now theres a source i can trust!
looks like its copy and pasted from something official
thanks man, i appreciate it !
07-17-2008, 05:40 PM
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07-17-2008, 06:20 PM
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Hes just still angry he got taken advantage of by some scuzzy car broker. We all knew what the car had for the PP already but its more fun to post 100x about something to fill the day.
Back to work people. We learned nothing from this thread. Best of all when he got a solid answer he slammed fellow posters. Got to wonder about these forums sometimes.
07-17-2008, 06:23 PM
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Hes just still angry he got taken advantage of by some scuzzy car broker. We all knew what the car had for the PP already but its more fun to post 100x about something to fill the day.
Back to work people. We learned nothing from this thread. Best of all when you get a solid answer he slams people. Got to wonder about these forums sometimes.
Back to work people. We learned nothing from this thread. Best of all when you get a solid answer he slams people. Got to wonder about these forums sometimes.
r u crazy?
im always nice and appreciative
the guy answered about some response he got in the AMG loung MONTHS ago
then last week, they came out with all this new C63 info, and still nothing on the PP
i just wanted to double check somehow
that guy instead being courtious was a d*ck
***and i didnt post about 100 times, i asked once!!!!!!!!!!!
what did this thread do to **** you off???
wow man.......some ppl are such DOUCHE BAGS on this forum
you guys (the douches) should be on BMW forums instead
07-17-2008, 06:27 PM
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Guys, at this point we're all speculating. To me, I just can't imagine Mercedes offering a performance package with just LSD. People who buy the performance package are looking for more. If they ever offer just the LSD, then I think they'll probably offer another "upgraded" performance package down the line to include some of the other stuff.
The C63 marks a turning point for AMG and they have a bit riding on this car. If they brought it with just an LSD and called it the performance package I think people would just walk away and buy the M3.
07-17-2008, 06:29 PM
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I agree but I sill laugh at the PP for the S and CL 63 cars. 9k for some wheels, black trim inside and a speed limiter raised to 186. That was one option box I forgot to check! Wheels might look nice but 9k for some forged wheels in OEM sizes? No thanks!
The C63 marks a turning point for AMG and they have a bit riding on this car. If they brought it with just an LSD and called it the performance package I think people would just walk away and buy the M3.
The C63 marks a turning point for AMG and they have a bit riding on this car. If they brought it with just an LSD and called it the performance package I think people would just walk away and buy the M3.
07-17-2008, 07:05 PM
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But really should a 450 hp car like the C63 have an open diff to begin with? I have to say no. But that is me!
07-17-2008, 07:58 PM
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07-17-2008, 09:15 PM
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+1. I would love to have just the top speed delimiter and the LSD. Not that I will ever try 174mph but it's nice to know.... The LSD actually adds to the performance, unlike Carbon Fiber trim. CF trim is pure bling. But I guess that's what draws some people to a BENZ in the first place.... DOH
I may have regretted getting an '08 if they offered a standalone LSD option for '09. But if I were to judge the C63 market by reading this forum, I don't think that will happen.....
I appreciate the credible info from Yoballs and MB Forever. Thanks for helping out the forum....
