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Old 07-31-2008, 11:47 PM
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Question LSD?

For those who have the 2008 c63 or those who ordered the 2009 without the performance package for what ever reason, is there anyway to put a LSD in this car? Possible to order the LSD part from Mercedes themselve and install it while keeping warranty or will installing the part void warranty, if it voids waranty would it be better to get an aftermarket LSD as opposed to the OEM one?

Also is differential on the C63 a welded one or a bolt on one? And is the OEM LSD a clutch type or a torsen type? How about the aftermarket LSD, are they clutch or torsen?

Would highly appreicate a picture of the rear end where the differential is from underneath the car if anyone has had their car up on the hoist.

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Old 07-31-2008, 11:49 PM
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You can have an LSD installed. Kleeman tuners like the OEM better though.
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I have ordered the LSD (471-AMG Rear Axle Locking Diff) and mine is on the water now and is an 09 model.
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Quiaffe do a diff for the c63. Ive decided to get them to do it rather than buy the AMG product. AMG lsd is only 40% locking, the quaiffe is 100% and therefore a better lsd.
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Quiaffe do a diff for the c63. Ive decided to get them to do it rather than buy the AMG product. AMG lsd is only 40% locking, the quaiffe is 100% and therefore a better lsd.
Yeah... 40%... hence limited slip differential... not a fully locking differential.
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I've asked the dealer to get a price for me if I have the AMG LSD installed. I should have the quote when I go there next week. Anyone price this out already?
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You can have the AMG lsd installed afterwards. I got the Euro LSD for the E55, and The axles also had to be changed to euro axles to make it work. The Euro axles, at least on the E55 are much bigger than the US spec axles.
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Yeah... 40%... hence limited slip differential... not a fully locking differential.
get your facts right before you attempt to take the ****, cause now you look very silly

The limited slip differential limits loss of traction by locking the planet gears when one of the two drive wheels threatens to slip, (for example, on a wet patch of road.)and conveys drive forces to the wheel with better grip, according to the difference in wheel rotation speed.

The 40% refers to amount of extra drive force (rotational speed) the differential can send to each wheel.


With the quaiffe diff, in extreme cases, the entire drive forces (ie100%)may be transmitted to the wheel with a better frictional coefficient.

therefore 100% is better than 40%


do some research you gimp

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Originally Posted by Steve A
get your facts right before you attempt to take the ****, cause now you look very silly


do some research you gimp
He's not silly.....just a very naughty boy....

Use of the word "Gimp", made me laugh!!!

I'll stick with the AMG L.S.D.

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Originally Posted by SuperCover
He's not silly.....just a very naughty boy....

Use of the word "Gimp", made me laugh!!!

I'll stick with the AMG L.S.D.

Mark.
Yep... L.S.D. was even a must in the 60's....oops now the 18 yr olds might think I'm there father,,, gotta run....

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Originally Posted by Steve A
get your facts right before you attempt to take the ****, cause now you look very silly

The limited slip differential limits loss of traction by locking the planet gears when one of the two drive wheels threatens to slip, (for example, on a wet patch of road.)and conveys drive forces to the wheel with better grip, according to the difference in wheel rotation speed.

The 40% refers to amount of extra drive force (rotational speed) the differential can send to each wheel.


With the quaiffe diff, in extreme cases, the entire drive forces (ie100%)may be transmitted to the wheel with a better frictional coefficient.

therefore 100% is better than 40%


do some research you gimp
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I actually liked both LSDs, and think both are very good. I had the Quaife on my Stage 2 C32 and now I have the AMG on my E63. However, I prefer the Quaife a little more, as I felt more control on the track and especially in the "twisties". Also, Quaife comes with a lifetime warranty even when raced. Yes, that's what they state in their warranty cards. They challenge you to race it and try to break it. So far, I haven't heard of a single quaife break down yet. And even if one does, Quaife will replace it for you. Now that's a company confident in their product's quality and performance
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Originally Posted by Blue_Monster
You can have the AMG lsd installed afterwards. I got the Euro LSD for the E55, and The axles also had to be changed to euro axles to make it work. The Euro axles, at least on the E55 are much bigger than the US spec axles.
so the entire rear axle has to be replaced, did you get it installed at the dealership and if so how much did the cost come to labour + part and how does the warranty work with the axle, 1 year for the axle from AMG or does it just blend in with the Car's warranty?
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Originally Posted by yooker
so the entire rear axle has to be replaced, did you get it installed at the dealership and if so how much did the cost come to labour + part and how does the warranty work with the axle, 1 year for the axle from AMG or does it just blend in with the Car's warranty?
The previous owner (VIC55) got it done at Evo I believe. Im not sure how much, but I know it was a pretty penny.
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Originally Posted by Steve A
get your facts right before you attempt to take the ****, cause now you look very silly

The limited slip differential limits loss of traction by locking the planet gears when one of the two drive wheels threatens to slip, (for example, on a wet patch of road.)and conveys drive forces to the wheel with better grip, according to the difference in wheel rotation speed.

The 40% refers to amount of extra drive force (rotational speed) the differential can send to each wheel.


With the quaiffe diff, in extreme cases, the entire drive forces (ie100%)may be transmitted to the wheel with a better frictional coefficient.

therefore 100% is better than 40%


do some research you gimp
very good gimpette, looks like you did some research after your statement.

work on your spelling and grammar too. your initial post was half literate whereas your copy and paste was very well written, and your Quiaffe is spelled Quaife.

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I actually liked both LSDs, and think both are very good. I had the Quaife on my Stage 2 C32 and now I have the AMG on my E63. However, I prefer the Quaife a little more, as I felt more control on the track and especially in the "twisties". Also, Quaife comes with a lifetime warranty even when raced. Yes, that's what they state in their warranty cards. They challenge you to race it and try to break it. So far, I haven't heard of a single quaife break down yet. And even if one does, Quaife will replace it for you. Now that's a company confident in their product's quality and performance
Quaife definately holds the utmost of reputations as far as reliability. I am going to continue to wait it out and do a bit more research. But I definately did NOT go with the PP. Will be doing the LSD aftermarket as well.
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Originally Posted by AMGBeleza
very good gimpette, looks like you did some research after your statement.

work on your spelling and grammar too. your initial post was half literate whereas your copy and paste was very well written, and your Quiaffe is spelled Quaife.

My statement was based on fact.

Your statment just highlighted your lack of knowledge, or limited knowledge

When the need arises i have perfect diction/grammer, and your shallow attempt to hide the fact that you're talking through your ****, by having a pop at my typing skills and accusing me of 'copy and paste', is very weak and see through.

You've shown yourself as a faker, so just accept the fact that everyone has had a good laugh at you and move on.....

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Originally Posted by Blue_Monster
You can have the AMG lsd installed afterwards. I got the Euro LSD for the E55, and The axles also had to be changed to euro axles to make it work. The Euro axles, at least on the E55 are much bigger than the US spec axles.
Blue Monster - where did you get this done? Directly from a dealer? It's actually a consideration based on price and having the benefit of not being part of a package deal.
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how much is the quaiffe LSD? could I get from/in hk??
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how much is the quaiffe LSD? could I get from/in hk??
what is hk? Quaife America does not have one on their website yet for the C63, but a couple for the E55. They are about $1,800 a piece. Imagine it will be the same for the C63, or just a bit more. Quaife UK also does not have one on their website yet, nor do they show prices for the E55 LSDs.

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what is hk? .
Hong Kong....
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Hong Kong....
A ha... I guess whenever they put one out for the C63, there is a Quaife distributor in Hong Kong.

T W AUTO International Company. Just look on the Quaife UK site and click on the link for distributors.
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So does installing the Quaife LSD void warranty if something goes wrong? And does the entire rear axle need to be replaced or just the diff itself?
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Birdsauto UK is a MB and BMW tuning house been doing the job 30years in the UK Phone up Kevin Bird the owner and on his system there is a Quaife diff available for the C63 £1700 + VAT


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