Minor concern after talking to salesman
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Just a heads up if you're going to refuse a car with more than 2 miles. I have never seen a car come off of the truck, as in the truck that delivers it to the dealership, with less than 3 miles. It then needs to be PDI'ed during which the technicians are required (by mercedes) to put 3-4 miles on it to assure quality.
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I was a bit perturbed to say the least...My SA was speechless because how can anyone justify 27 mile test drive on a problem that doesn't involve the engine, transmission, or suspension? All I got was an apology from the service manager and general manager and a deal that they would pay for another year of Onstar. I told them fine I wanted it in writing and that I would have to rethink if I would ever use their dealership again for service and to expect a letter sent to MB.
Guess what my answers to the telephone survey you get after service...
Bottomline, ALWAYS know the mileage on your car when you leave it with anyone AND let them know you know.
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Just a heads up if you're going to refuse a car with more than 2 miles. I have never seen a car come off of the truck, as in the truck that delivers it to the dealership, with less than 3 miles. It then needs to be PDI'ed during which the technicians are required (by mercedes) to put 3-4 miles on it to assure quality.
Slightly a joke about the 2 miles but each car I've purchased new have had less than 8 on them.
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......I would say that 90% of the cars that I do PDI have around 10 miles on them when I'm done and I put around 3 of those miles on myself. It's not uncommon for a vehicle that sits on the lot for a while to aquire miles through test drives. But for a car that was just delivered I would expect that no more than 20 miles should be put on the car.
I've never seen a 'new' car (post PDI) with more than 10-15 miles on them.
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Bless my dealership. THe car I got was a spec car. I found out about it a day before I bought it - and it's the only car they are receiving for the 09 model year that's not sold.
The manager REALLY didn't want to let me drive it. The only reason I got to was that my rep convinced him that I would respect that motor. Of course now reading this, it's the tranny not motor I was to respect... in any case, I drove it very gently - well within the spec of the breakin.
When I drove it off the lot it was 7 miles, I had it for 2 miles and then signed the paperwork.
I guess there are some dealers that are worthy of respect.
The manager REALLY didn't want to let me drive it. The only reason I got to was that my rep convinced him that I would respect that motor. Of course now reading this, it's the tranny not motor I was to respect... in any case, I drove it very gently - well within the spec of the breakin.
When I drove it off the lot it was 7 miles, I had it for 2 miles and then signed the paperwork.
I guess there are some dealers that are worthy of respect.
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Just a heads up if you're going to refuse a car with more than 2 miles. I have never seen a car come off of the truck, as in the truck that delivers it to the dealership, with less than 3 miles. It then needs to be PDI'ed during which the technicians are required (by mercedes) to put 3-4 miles on it to assure quality.
So can you dig up something from MB that requires a technician to drive an AMG for any distance after it's left the factory? Seriously, this may seem trivial to you, but it's in direct contradiction to what the AMG folks are saying.
3 or 4 miles coming off the truck would be something I'd not argue about, but 20-40 is an absolute joke?!
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I do not understand what the fuss is about.
If the factory needed to have car driven at PDI to verify it and give it all clear, than this is what need it to be done.
10-40 miles is very common.
Go the dealers lot and look at the cars themselves.
If the factory needed to have car driven at PDI to verify it and give it all clear, than this is what need it to be done.
10-40 miles is very common.
Go the dealers lot and look at the cars themselves.
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,, i got mine with exactly 20 miles 
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i sell new mb cars and the reasons why your car might have som miles on it are:
it was driven by the staff- hey we like new cars too. never on a sold order, but a floor stock car, sure.
it was driven by a client with a salesman on a demo.
it was fuelled, tinted, new wheels etc
it was driven as part of a pd.
but if your car is a pre sold order, then the only reasons are the last 2.
it was driven by the staff- hey we like new cars too. never on a sold order, but a floor stock car, sure.
it was driven by a client with a salesman on a demo.
it was fuelled, tinted, new wheels etc
it was driven as part of a pd.
but if your car is a pre sold order, then the only reasons are the last 2.
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My car came with 12 Miles on it from memory.
From the couple of factory collections i have done i recall that part of the production processs is that a pre determined % of cars are randomly driven round the test track for a full test and that all cars gp round at least once for verification.
My local dealer has a pre-assigned PDI route to avoid the mechanics going off on a jolly.
I think you should ask the dealer why the mileage?
It would appear that in the States your dealers let customers drive brand new cars such as RJR who refused the car because of the seats, hence he added 20 miles and said he didnt want it.
In the UK i dont think a dealer would let you drive a brand new unregistered car unless it was a base model definately not an AMG as they would run into the same problems that you are raising here.
Good luck and stick to your guns.
From the couple of factory collections i have done i recall that part of the production processs is that a pre determined % of cars are randomly driven round the test track for a full test and that all cars gp round at least once for verification.
My local dealer has a pre-assigned PDI route to avoid the mechanics going off on a jolly.
I think you should ask the dealer why the mileage?
It would appear that in the States your dealers let customers drive brand new cars such as RJR who refused the car because of the seats, hence he added 20 miles and said he didnt want it.
In the UK i dont think a dealer would let you drive a brand new unregistered car unless it was a base model definately not an AMG as they would run into the same problems that you are raising here.
Good luck and stick to your guns.
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From: ASIA
01'CL55 black/black 01' ferrari 360 f1 red/black w/tuned
mitch
If you really care about ``20-40 miles`` you can back out this white
c63.but i have to a point.....you make decision on c63 because you
love it,want it. .......Otherwise E92 M3 already in your hand!!!!!
If i am you.i`ll find the ture,make sure this c63 everything all right,than
be come Enviable C63 owner.............
mabye i live in china. like C63 or E92 M3 new sporty vehicle hard to got
it.when i got my new f360 in 2002. it had 250km already,i want to HK
dealer take the SD3 goto china check my new f360 make sure engine
and transmission system has not lost completely......
Certainly I also request the extension this f360 warnnity..they give 1
more year..........
You have certainly the final decision-making power!!!!!!!
Good&luck
-Brian
If you really care about ``20-40 miles`` you can back out this white
c63.but i have to a point.....you make decision on c63 because you
love it,want it. .......Otherwise E92 M3 already in your hand!!!!!
If i am you.i`ll find the ture,make sure this c63 everything all right,than
be come Enviable C63 owner.............
mabye i live in china. like C63 or E92 M3 new sporty vehicle hard to got
it.when i got my new f360 in 2002. it had 250km already,i want to HK
dealer take the SD3 goto china check my new f360 make sure engine
and transmission system has not lost completely......
Certainly I also request the extension this f360 warnnity..they give 1
more year..........
You have certainly the final decision-making power!!!!!!!
Good&luck
-Brian
Last edited by kzsport; Aug 3, 2008 at 08:32 AM.
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Tell him he's full of ****, and that if the car has more than 5 miles on it, you want a 10k discount for the priviledge of his driving it around, or you'll leave it sitting on his lot and move to another dealer.
AMG engines are broken in on the bench at the factory, and your car should be delivered with almost no mileage. The first 1k miles are yours to break in the transmission.
If you really want to roast him, give MBUSA a shout and tell 'em your story. Seriously, this is an absolute farce.
AMG engines are broken in on the bench at the factory, and your car should be delivered with almost no mileage. The first 1k miles are yours to break in the transmission.
If you really want to roast him, give MBUSA a shout and tell 'em your story. Seriously, this is an absolute farce.
Sounds like the sales joc is doing his own delivery from a dealer swap for your sale.
use the following formula when calculating the sales price;
speedo = >3 then, Sales price= (MSRP x .90)
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From: Austin, TX
2013 C63 Black Series
20 miles or less
Seems right. While there is testing, etc... it shouldnt add up to 40 miles, that seems excessive. If I think back to cars I bought new... E46 M3, B7 RS4, etc..they all came with less than 20k miles on the clock.
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AMG breaks the motor in on a dyno at the factory - they are all hand build, and if they don't pass a set of performance tests, they never make it to a car. It's been over a year since I did the tour, but the cars are packed for shipping with nothing on the odometers, and as I mentioned before, I see cars waiting on their new owners with < 5 miles on them all the time. (I don't live very far from London's premier AMG dealer - http://www.mercedes-benzbromley.co.uk )
Only the 65 biturbo V12's are all run on the dyno.
Then again who cares, this is done before it is put in the car.
Every AMG I have bought has had between 9 and 21 miles at delivery. My dealer puts about 3 miles on between PDI and getting fuel for delivery.
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A little OT but it is tangentially related...Back in 2005 I had one of my window regulators go bad so I brought it in the dealership for replacement. I get it back and it had 27 miles more on the odometer than when I left it...I always note the odometer mileage whenever I leave it with a mechanic.
I was a bit perturbed to say the least...My SA was speechless because how can anyone justify 27 mile test drive on a problem that doesn't involve the engine, transmission, or suspension? All I got was an apology from the service manager and general manager and a deal that they would pay for another year of Onstar. I told them fine I wanted it in writing and that I would have to rethink if I would ever use their dealership again for service and to expect a letter sent to MB.
Guess what my answers to the telephone survey you get after service...
Bottomline, ALWAYS know the mileage on your car when you leave it with anyone AND let them know you know.
I was a bit perturbed to say the least...My SA was speechless because how can anyone justify 27 mile test drive on a problem that doesn't involve the engine, transmission, or suspension? All I got was an apology from the service manager and general manager and a deal that they would pay for another year of Onstar. I told them fine I wanted it in writing and that I would have to rethink if I would ever use their dealership again for service and to expect a letter sent to MB.
Guess what my answers to the telephone survey you get after service...
Bottomline, ALWAYS know the mileage on your car when you leave it with anyone AND let them know you know.
Sounds like you have a salesman that is eager to test drive your C63 and IMHO was telling you that they are going to be doing so. I can see 10-15 miles on the odometer but 20-40 is a little too many for my liking.
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I've worked at a Mercedes Dealership.
The cars would usually be left at the train station and then driven from said station to the dealership, about 15km's. Some cars would be brought to a second warehouse for whatever reason, which would add another 5 km to the odo.
So usually cars would have 15-20 km on them. This had absolutely nothing to do with test drives or anything of that nature.
Depending on the method of shipment and distances they may be driven to the dealership instead of driven by truck directly to the lot.
The cars would usually be left at the train station and then driven from said station to the dealership, about 15km's. Some cars would be brought to a second warehouse for whatever reason, which would add another 5 km to the odo.
So usually cars would have 15-20 km on them. This had absolutely nothing to do with test drives or anything of that nature.
Depending on the method of shipment and distances they may be driven to the dealership instead of driven by truck directly to the lot.
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Mental note... never buy a car from MB of Austin. 
Just kidding, you should seriously put in a further inquiry about this with the Sales Manager... I have bought many new cars, and that is way too high. Straight up. There are other threads out there about this very same subject (on many different forums). Those are additional points of reference which I am basing this conclusion on and would recommend for you to take a look at.
Good luck.
Just kidding, you should seriously put in a further inquiry about this with the Sales Manager... I have bought many new cars, and that is way too high. Straight up. There are other threads out there about this very same subject (on many different forums). Those are additional points of reference which I am basing this conclusion on and would recommend for you to take a look at.
Good luck.
Last edited by Arctic White; Aug 3, 2008 at 07:39 PM.
Sounds like MB of Austin has a new "special offer"
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