what to buy
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what to buy
i know i'm on a mercedes forum but still. i drove a c63 for a quick test drive and a 08 bmw m3 today. i'm buying one of the two they come to the same payment. so it's really which is better. my concern about the c63 is the higher rate cause bmw offers 1.9% on the bmw m3 coupe and standard on the c63 and the bigger concern is resale value. i know the m3 is great for that but as far as c63 i don't know? i'm in the car business and can't get a great deal on both cars. i like the c63 today a little bigger great power. i didn't want to head in a pot hole on purpose but i hear the c63 is a little on the harsh ride side i didn't feel it but as i said short ride with smooth roads. i'm never going to track it. i'm going to be using it for a daily driver please give your feelings???
thanks in advance.
brett
thanks in advance.
brett
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I was deciding between those 2 cars as well. I decided to go with the c63, without even test driving it because I liked it much better lookswise. After test driving it a couple of weeks ago i knew i made the right choice. If u arent gonna be tracking it, i say go with the 63 because thats the only place a m3 would be better. And with the economy the way it is, I dont think either cars will have good resale, but the m3 might be better I wouldnt know though. And like u said this is a mercedes forum so most people will agree to go with the amg. I hope you aren't on a m3 forum asking what to choose? Filled with nothing but blind fanboys riding the m3's ****.
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Both great cars. Objective opinions will favor the C63 for street use, and the M3 for those who will track the car from time to time. On the street, its easier to go fast in the AMG.
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a freind of mine got the new M...it's a beautiful car...I just can't help that big smile on my face every time I start the C and listen to the pipes...and the butt dyno tells me the C is more fun day-to-day...JMO
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If he wanted a stick, he wouldn't be looking at the C63. Just cause M OFFERS a stick, is not a reason to buy it. If a manual is what you want, the M3 is a great car. You gotta drive it hard to get the performance you would out of the C63 driven "normally". What I mean is, way more power and torque at low RPM's vs. the M3 powerband so high in the rev range. 335i better than M3 for street ride, IMO.
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09 c63
I dont think you understand what i was saying. I went to all kinds of forums b4 this one, including m3 forums. And alot of people were saying **** just because I was thinking of getting a c63 over the m3. You ask people what to get on this forum, and you'll hear different reasons to why each is a good choice. Over there, it would turn into 20 pages of bashing the c63. If it were not for the c63, I would definitly be driving the m. But people on m3 forums did not help, so ignorant so biased towards bmw. And some of them even had the nerve to say they cant stand merc drivers... and if they actually took one serious look at the 63, alot of them would be asking for their deposits back. But alot of them to up bmws *** to even consider its competitors.
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I dont think you understand what i was saying. I went to all kinds of forums b4 this one, including m3 forums. And alot of people were saying **** just because I was thinking of getting a c63 over the m3. You ask people what to get on this forum, and you'll hear different reasons to why each is a good choice. Over there, it would turn into 20 pages of bashing the c63. If it were not for the c63, I would definitly be driving the m. But people on m3 forums did not help, so ignorant so biased towards bmw. And some of them even had the nerve to say they cant stand merc drivers... and if they actually took one serious look at the 63, alot of them would be asking for their deposits back. But alot of them to up bmws *** to even consider its competitors.
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If he wanted a stick, he wouldn't be looking at the C63. Just cause M OFFERS a stick, is not a reason to buy it. If a manual is what you want, the M3 is a great car. You gotta drive it hard to get the performance you would out of the C63 driven "normally". What I mean is, way more power and torque at low RPM's vs. the M3 powerband so high in the rev range. 335i better than M3 for street ride, IMO.
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Besides all the obvious... daily performance enjoyment... more horsepower... quicker 0-60.... more torque... throaty pipes... sweet styling...
i too was looking at the M3... but couldn't get my fat a$$ in the back seat comfortably... C63 has a little more room in the back seat.
i too was looking at the M3... but couldn't get my fat a$$ in the back seat comfortably... C63 has a little more room in the back seat.
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09 c63
Ok so the c63 has a really big engine. You think thats all there is to the car? I too think there is more to a car than the engine. I thought the amg was much nicer that affected my choice alot. If I all cared about was the engine i woulda went with a z06.... kills both
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I replaced my '06 E46 Comp Car (Dinan S/C) with a 911 turbo. I've owned and enjoyed 3 M3's and they are excellent cars. The reason I went with the C63 was that at 8/10's the 63 is a much better performer. The New M maintains the same characteristics of a race-proven track performer that is well documented, however as a daily ride I've really grown to appreciate the C63 big bore firepower. It is an absolute beast in a straight-line, and for someone who will never "track" it provides the most grins on my daily commute. It is even more a handful than the new M to drive which is really why I you used to love the 3's. My .02
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thanks you for all your input. i was wondering cause i do live in NY where the road are not the worst but not the best either. any truth to the harsh ride on a daily driver as stated by some people? how does it handle the road when there not perfect?
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I have a 350Z that runs on 9kg/mm spring rates and I put the dampening in the middle. I used to drive that thing on sh*tty roads, as well as a 40 m/day commute. When I went to my 335i that was the softest car in the world. I have driven the E46 M3 and that was pretty livable as well.
I don't know how the M3 is but my stock 335i seems to track road imperfections more than my modded Z, or at least just as much.
I don't know how the M3 is but my stock 335i seems to track road imperfections more than my modded Z, or at least just as much.
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09 c63
I have test driven teh e92 m3 the ride is pretty soft. The c63 was a bit stiffer but still smooth. Im getting the PP, which comes with a stiffer suspension so ill let u know how that is.
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I dont think you understand what i was saying. I went to all kinds of forums b4 this one, including m3 forums. And alot of people were saying **** just because I was thinking of getting a c63 over the m3. You ask people what to get on this forum, and you'll hear different reasons to why each is a good choice. Over there, it would turn into 20 pages of bashing the c63. If it were not for the c63, I would definitly be driving the m. But people on m3 forums did not help, so ignorant so biased towards bmw. And some of them even had the nerve to say they cant stand merc drivers... and if they actually took one serious look at the 63, alot of them would be asking for their deposits back. But alot of them to up bmws *** to even consider its competitors.
That is exactly what I thought.
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I went from the E39 M5 for MB due to the appalling quality of BMW service here and sadly combined with the E60 M5's poor quality this was an impossible combination. I have been so happy with the E55 and test drove the C63, which I also liked, despite the fact that the seats are too narrow and you cannot adjust the suspension.
Anyway to the point. MB's, after many BMW's, in my opinnion are better daily drivers. The M3 has better qulaity than the M5 it seems, but I am now beginning to like AMG's more, I like the Rumbling low sound vs the annoying BMW hi pitch revving. Then again I am a Porsche fan vs Ferrari. The BMW's, however, still have a better steering feel and connection to the road than the MB's, but this I think is intentional.
Take the C63! And by the way, the 335i is not that much slower than the M3, so I would rather go for that if you want a BMW. You can get that in AWD and save a lot of mony for tuning. You'll save gaas too.
Anyway to the point. MB's, after many BMW's, in my opinnion are better daily drivers. The M3 has better qulaity than the M5 it seems, but I am now beginning to like AMG's more, I like the Rumbling low sound vs the annoying BMW hi pitch revving. Then again I am a Porsche fan vs Ferrari. The BMW's, however, still have a better steering feel and connection to the road than the MB's, but this I think is intentional.
Take the C63! And by the way, the 335i is not that much slower than the M3, so I would rather go for that if you want a BMW. You can get that in AWD and save a lot of mony for tuning. You'll save gaas too.
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My car has the 'partial' PPackage.. without the stiffer springs/brakes.
Picked her up last Friday nite.. put on abt 500 miles over the weekend.
Heres my unprofessional opinion on the ride.
I live in Northern NJ, drives mostly in in NYC and surrounding areas
On good roads, the ride is perfect!
On bad roads, (we're not talking abt a small pot hole every 5000ft), the ride gets 'tiring' -this includes the jarring noises associated with the car being driven on these roads, not to mention drowning out the radio at sane listening levels. I thought I would handle the stiff suspension better, that feeling the road is a good thing. The problem is that unless I'm doing spirited driving, I would prefer to feel the road less especially since I'll be using this car as a commuter.
My gf usually dozes when we drive longish distance.. The few times I glanced over to her.. her head was bouncing against the headrest like a tennis ball.. needless to say.. she didn't sleep.
I'm still thanking god that I didnt get the stiffer springs & 19" wheels
I think it would've been great, if MB would give us adjustable suspension (like the m3)
below is why I bought the car:
She's German
She has very dark skin.
Heres her attributes, its not 34c,24,34..but..
c63 amg
454 hp
441 lbs of torque
relatively fat limbs, 235/18s up front - 255/18s rear
I wasn't even interested in her until I heard her growl.. Dear lord.. what a glorious voice!!
Ya, shes got her claws in me!
My brain said NOOOO, shes no good for you
My heart said YESSSSSS
As in all true Love, the heart always win
Picked her up last Friday nite.. put on abt 500 miles over the weekend.
Heres my unprofessional opinion on the ride.
I live in Northern NJ, drives mostly in in NYC and surrounding areas
On good roads, the ride is perfect!
On bad roads, (we're not talking abt a small pot hole every 5000ft), the ride gets 'tiring' -this includes the jarring noises associated with the car being driven on these roads, not to mention drowning out the radio at sane listening levels. I thought I would handle the stiff suspension better, that feeling the road is a good thing. The problem is that unless I'm doing spirited driving, I would prefer to feel the road less especially since I'll be using this car as a commuter.
My gf usually dozes when we drive longish distance.. The few times I glanced over to her.. her head was bouncing against the headrest like a tennis ball.. needless to say.. she didn't sleep.
I'm still thanking god that I didnt get the stiffer springs & 19" wheels
I think it would've been great, if MB would give us adjustable suspension (like the m3)
below is why I bought the car:
She's German
She has very dark skin.
Heres her attributes, its not 34c,24,34..but..
c63 amg
454 hp
441 lbs of torque
relatively fat limbs, 235/18s up front - 255/18s rear
I wasn't even interested in her until I heard her growl.. Dear lord.. what a glorious voice!!
Ya, shes got her claws in me!
My brain said NOOOO, shes no good for you
My heart said YESSSSSS
As in all true Love, the heart always win
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