Dry Carbon Fiber "starless" grille!! W204/63
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uh...I don't think you had understand what I said at all when you asked me about how the install goes.
you need to remove the C63 grille completely including the "top" section. drop the k1 grille in and done. you do not need the rubber piece that ONLY the regular 204 has. If you want that piece you can go to the dealer and order one if you feel like adding it.
k1 was bugging me on I gave you the wrong instructions.
I don't know how can I make the instruction any more clearer.
you need to remove the C63 grille completely including the "top" section. drop the k1 grille in and done. you do not need the rubber piece that ONLY the regular 204 has. If you want that piece you can go to the dealer and order one if you feel like adding it.
k1 was bugging me on I gave you the wrong instructions.
I don't know how can I make the instruction any more clearer.Last edited by shaker; Feb 26, 2009 at 12:29 AM.
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I deleted my post after re-reading the other post.... and notived you beat to it....my bad.... I am still frustretd with K1 not replying to my last email though.... very bad day today...and when I saw that someone received a refund after being denied one ... well let's just say I jumped out of my chair.... no harm intended.... if you delte your post I will delte this one as well...
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i think azn_300 mentioned that there was major defect in the grille he received that's why he opted to get it refunded. I think if you follow the instruction I was asked to give you you'll find that installing the grille is surprisingly easy. If then you still have problems with it I'm sure K1 with their good reputation would give you what you are looking for.
BTW... love your promptness to replies.. gotta luv this forum...
on another note... I may give the install a try tomorrow as the weather is going to be in the upper 80's... I wanted to wait for warmer weather as the OEM grille is quite fragile at lower temps...
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How much force is required to get the CF grille to clip in at the bottom? I'm trying to install it and can't get the tabs to lock in place. I'm putting as much pressure as I ca with my hands behind the grille and on the front bumper. It also looks like the center of the grille is not as close to the bumper as the rest.
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How much force is required to get the CF grille to clip in at the bottom? I'm trying to install it and can't get the tabs to lock in place. I'm putting as much pressure as I ca with my hands behind the grille and on the front bumper. It also looks like the center of the grille is not as close to the bumper as the rest.
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They could never ever respond to several inquiries from me, asking if they had "proof" of an install on a C63.
BTW, Qship5 was trying to install the grille that I had purchased.....
K1 still owes me responses to emails I sent to them quite some time ago
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So does that mean that the grille indeed does not fit on a C63... and I can now get my money back from K1.... they sold it to me knowing I was buying it for a C63!
They could never ever respond to several inquiries from me, asking if they had "proof" of an install on a C63.
BTW, Qship5 was trying to install the grille that I had purchased.....
K1 still owes me responses to emails I sent to them quite some time ago
They could never ever respond to several inquiries from me, asking if they had "proof" of an install on a C63.
BTW, Qship5 was trying to install the grille that I had purchased.....
K1 still owes me responses to emails I sent to them quite some time ago
still don't know what are you talking about. the fitment and all was already explained to you three times twice in this thread by me a customer. The mounting position are all the same, period.this is how this grille sits
this is how my C63 style grille sits. one designed to go to the edge one's designed to leave a space.
gonna put the 63 style grille on for the summer season btw. other wise I never get to use that grille. lol
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Per Qship5's post above and his experience with trying to install this on his C63 and FrankW's reply to Qsship5,
the grille DOES NOT FIT ON A C63! PERIOD!!
the grille DOES NOT FIT ON A C63! PERIOD!!
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So you've had this $900 grille for over 4 months and have not been able to install it?
Has *anyone* successfully installed this grille on a C63?
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How much force is required to get the CF grille to clip in at the bottom? I'm trying to install it and can't get the tabs to lock in place. I'm putting as much pressure as I ca with my hands behind the grille and on the front bumper. It also looks like the center of the grille is not as close to the bumper as the rest.
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I tried to install the grille Shaker bought and there was no way I could get it to lock in on the tabs at the bottom where the grille meets the bumper.
The stock C63 grill clips in easily and the CF grill will not clip in no matter how much I try to press the grille forward and the bumper cover back! There was a huge gap between the center of the grille and the bumper even when the tabs to the side were in the appropriate opening on the grille. Based on my experience trying to fit this grille on my C63 I can't believe this will fit. I've done tons of work/installs on cars and this piece isn't going to fit on a C63.
The stock C63 grill clips in easily and the CF grill will not clip in no matter how much I try to press the grille forward and the bumper cover back! There was a huge gap between the center of the grille and the bumper even when the tabs to the side were in the appropriate opening on the grille. Based on my experience trying to fit this grille on my C63 I can't believe this will fit. I've done tons of work/installs on cars and this piece isn't going to fit on a C63.
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I tried to install the grille Shaker bought and there was no way I could get it to lock in on the tabs at the bottom where the grille meets the bumper.
The stock C63 grill clips in easily and the CF grill will not clip in no matter how much I try to press the grille forward and the bumper cover back! There was a huge gap between the center of the grille and the bumper even when the tabs to the side were in the appropriate opening on the grille. Based on my experience trying to fit this grille on my C63 I can't believe this will fit. I've done tons of work/installs on cars and this piece isn't going to fit on a C63.
The stock C63 grill clips in easily and the CF grill will not clip in no matter how much I try to press the grille forward and the bumper cover back! There was a huge gap between the center of the grille and the bumper even when the tabs to the side were in the appropriate opening on the grille. Based on my experience trying to fit this grille on my C63 I can't believe this will fit. I've done tons of work/installs on cars and this piece isn't going to fit on a C63.
I'd offer to buy it but i'd rather have it in ABS and get it for 1/4 the price.
Good luck!
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Wow. That's brutal, especially considering its price. Since its been over 4 months, do you think they'll still let him return it? If not, he should be able to recoup a significant amount putting for sale in the reg W204 forum or on ebay...
I'd offer to buy it but i'd rather have it in ABS and get it for 1/4 the price.
Good luck!
I'd offer to buy it but i'd rather have it in ABS and get it for 1/4 the price.
Good luck!
Since then though I now have proof that it does not fit... and their web site does guarantee fitment... I sent them an email last night, requesting a refund.... before Qship5 installed it it was still in its original packaging including the plastic bag and box it was shipped in. So we will see how they respond. I will keep you posted.
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K1 Motorsport would not accept a return (company policy) way back when I already had my doubts about the fitment back in January. They could never ever confirm that the product was ever successfully fitted on a C63...
Since then though I now have proof that it does not fit... and their web site does guarantee fitment... I sent them an email last night, requesting a refund.... before Qship5 installed it it was still in its original packaging including the plastic bag and box it was shipped in. So we will see how they respond. I will keep you posted.
Since then though I now have proof that it does not fit... and their web site does guarantee fitment... I sent them an email last night, requesting a refund.... before Qship5 installed it it was still in its original packaging including the plastic bag and box it was shipped in. So we will see how they respond. I will keep you posted.
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K1 Motorsport would not accept a return (company policy) way back when I already had my doubts about the fitment back in January. They could never ever confirm that the product was ever successfully fitted on a C63...
Since then though I now have proof that it does not fit... and their web site does guarantee fitment... I sent them an email last night, requesting a refund.... before Qship5 installed it it was still in its original packaging including the plastic bag and box it was shipped in. So we will see how they respond. I will keep you posted.
Since then though I now have proof that it does not fit... and their web site does guarantee fitment... I sent them an email last night, requesting a refund.... before Qship5 installed it it was still in its original packaging including the plastic bag and box it was shipped in. So we will see how they respond. I will keep you posted.
should've had this fitted long time ago and you would've got your refund long time ago.
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so all these time you asked about the install instructions, complaints about the fitment, and rants for wanting a refund, etc you never even tried it? until qship did it for you? no wonder K1 didn't take any action.
should've had this fitted long time ago and you would've got your refund long time ago.
should've had this fitted long time ago and you would've got your refund long time ago.
Did you ever try to get anyone in the area to try your grille on a C63... since it was only a 10-15 minute swap out, for you, why not see what it looked like on a C63 and provide some pics.... hhhhmmmmm!!
Qship gave it a go because after much debate I was finally going to see how it would look with the Palladfium color... which BTW I am still not convinced would look good... but enough with the insults... the matter is closed.... the grille DOES NOT fit a C63.... PERIOD!! who's
not me... did I procrastinate.......... yes.......... but not
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Too bad no one could ever confirm it until now..... you were so sure that it was not an issue and that it would fit a C63... did you forget that part?
Did you ever try to get anyone in the area to try your grille on a C63... since it was only a 10-15 minute swap out, for you, why not see what it looked like on a C63 and provide some pics.... hhhhmmmmm!!
Qship gave it a go because after much debate I was finally going to see how it would look with the Palladfium color... which BTW I am still not convinced would look good... but enough with the insults... the matter is closed.... the grille DOES NOT fit a C63.... PERIOD!! who's not me... did I procrastinate.......... yes.......... but not
Did you ever try to get anyone in the area to try your grille on a C63... since it was only a 10-15 minute swap out, for you, why not see what it looked like on a C63 and provide some pics.... hhhhmmmmm!!
Qship gave it a go because after much debate I was finally going to see how it would look with the Palladfium color... which BTW I am still not convinced would look good... but enough with the insults... the matter is closed.... the grille DOES NOT fit a C63.... PERIOD!! who's
not me... did I procrastinate.......... yes.......... but not if my friend who has a C63 doesn't live in San Jose I would've done it already.
not my fault if you are incompetent in doing DIY modifications.
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I'm still 100% positive that the grille WILL FIT a C63 if that grille doesn't have the front clip not clipping problem unlike mine. I'm willing to bet $100 on it. wanna bet? the grille "does not fit a C63" comment is completely false.
if my friend who has a C63 doesn't live in San Jose I would've done it already.
not my fault if you are incompetent in doing DIY modifications.
if my friend who has a C63 doesn't live in San Jose I would've done it already.
not my fault if you are incompetent in doing DIY modifications.
No harm done.... strange that K1 has not invited a local C63 for a fitment trial... and then provide instructions on the modifications needed if any.... for a proper install..... Qship and I looked at every possible scenario and the grille just does not clip in at all
Not sure why you keep insulting me either... I have lots of DYI experience just not on MB's or for that matter with changes or corrections to body parts and/or stylings....
since you like running up your post count I am sure you will continue to get the last word in.... Having fun yet??
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Qship5 is as competent as they come... and he says short of making major changes it does not fit... the grille is NOT an OEM replacement if changes to the fastening area need to be made.....
No harm done.... strange that K1 has not invited a local C63 for a fitment trial... and then provide instructions on the modifications needed if any.... for a proper install..... Qship and I looked at every possible scenario and the grille just does not clip in at all
Not sure why you keep insulting me either... I have lots of DYI experience just not on MB's or for that matter with changes or corrections to body parts and/or stylings....
since you like running up your post count I am sure you will continue to get the last word in.... Having fun yet??
No harm done.... strange that K1 has not invited a local C63 for a fitment trial... and then provide instructions on the modifications needed if any.... for a proper install..... Qship and I looked at every possible scenario and the grille just does not clip in at all
Not sure why you keep insulting me either... I have lots of DYI experience just not on MB's or for that matter with changes or corrections to body parts and/or stylings....
since you like running up your post count I am sure you will continue to get the last word in.... Having fun yet??
no insults here. I just find it annoying that you would claim you are a DIY person yet after numerous attempt at helping you over several months you decide to ignore the help and push this aside to someone else that are more comfortable with taking apart their car. All this while you wanted to return the grille claiming it doesn't fit before even making any attempt at installing it. When you did not attempt to fit the parts, no wonder K1 couldn't let you return the parts since there were no reason for them to believe it was a faulty part.
as Qship said in the thread the front does not want to clip in which can be a manufacturer fault for not trimming the CF enough, but other than that where did you draw up the awesome conclusion "this grille does not fit C63"?
I'm sure K1 will look into this case and make further adjustment of their grille. each one is hand made, so there can be slight variance. I was there watching them testing at least 4 prototype grille before the one on my car is even made. As I stated before the lower part of the grille where it attaches to the bumper are not any different in any W204.
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when did any said this was a "OEM" replacement
no insults here. I just find it annoying that you would claim you are a DIY person yet after numerous attempt at helping you over several months you decide to ignore the help and push this aside to someone else that are more comfortable with taking apart their car. All this while you wanted to return the grille claiming it doesn't fit before even making any attempt at installing it. When you did not attempt to fit the parts, no wonder K1 couldn't let you return the parts since there were no reason for them to believe it was a faulty part.
as Qship said in the thread the front does not want to clip in which can be a manufacturer fault for not trimming the CF enough, but other than that where did you draw up the awesome conclusion "this grille does not fit C63"?
I'm sure K1 will look into this case and make further adjustment of their grille. each one is hand made, so there can be slight variance. I was there watching them testing at least 4 prototype grille before the one on my car is even made. As I stated before the lower part of the grille where it attaches to the bumper are not any different in any W204.
no insults here. I just find it annoying that you would claim you are a DIY person yet after numerous attempt at helping you over several months you decide to ignore the help and push this aside to someone else that are more comfortable with taking apart their car. All this while you wanted to return the grille claiming it doesn't fit before even making any attempt at installing it. When you did not attempt to fit the parts, no wonder K1 couldn't let you return the parts since there were no reason for them to believe it was a faulty part.
as Qship said in the thread the front does not want to clip in which can be a manufacturer fault for not trimming the CF enough, but other than that where did you draw up the awesome conclusion "this grille does not fit C63"?
I'm sure K1 will look into this case and make further adjustment of their grille. each one is hand made, so there can be slight variance. I was there watching them testing at least 4 prototype grille before the one on my car is even made. As I stated before the lower part of the grille where it attaches to the bumper are not any different in any W204.
Apprecaite the insights... all K1 would need to do is make a "go-no go" gauge to check each and every part made, just a suggestion.... if it fits then = ship the product (pass), if it does not fit = fail/no ship... a very simple guage would not be expensive even if fabricated from machined hard plastic or even steel... and of course with built in tolerance factors which measures all "critical dimension" areas for confirmed fitment... I think this would be a very simple solution and would avoid 'bad' products ending up in customers' hands...any ways, just a thought.... a customer should expect a product that is made within specifications for $900
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