I think I screwed my C63, please help
12-21-2008, 04:10 PM
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12-21-2008, 09:10 PM
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question are you a lawyer? and do you understand the purpose of a lawyer? and understand how negligent statutes work? it doesn't take a idiot to realize coffee is hot and yet we still have those warning there I wonder why...
anyways what i suggest is going to germany or find an amg specialist (and not the dealer) and find out...btw the manual also says u should obey the speed limit at all times.....want to comment on that aswell i'm sure the engineers who designed the car meant for it never to exceed the limit on american streets
oh adn look into cold test every engine goes through and look at the HOT test the (i think it's 2%) they go through right off the assembly
anyways what i suggest is going to germany or find an amg specialist (and not the dealer) and find out...btw the manual also says u should obey the speed limit at all times.....want to comment on that aswell i'm sure the engineers who designed the car meant for it never to exceed the limit on american streets
oh adn look into cold test every engine goes through and look at the HOT test the (i think it's 2%) they go through right off the assembly
12-21-2008, 09:36 PM
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question are you a lawyer? and do you understand the purpose of a lawyer? and understand how negligent statutes work? it doesn't take a idiot to realize coffee is hot and yet we still have those warning there I wonder why...
anyways what i suggest is going to germany or find an amg specialist (and not the dealer) and find out...btw the manual also says u should obey the speed limit at all times.....want to comment on that aswell i'm sure the engineers who designed the car meant for it never to exceed the limit on american streets
oh adn look into cold test every engine goes through and look at the HOT test the (i think it's 2%) they go through right off the assembly
anyways what i suggest is going to germany or find an amg specialist (and not the dealer) and find out...btw the manual also says u should obey the speed limit at all times.....want to comment on that aswell i'm sure the engineers who designed the car meant for it never to exceed the limit on american streets
oh adn look into cold test every engine goes through and look at the HOT test the (i think it's 2%) they go through right off the assembly
12-21-2008, 09:42 PM
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12-21-2008, 09:51 PM
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Engine broken in/tested to redline
tranny not
rear end not
various other components are not
yeah i definitely see the flaw in my logic
12-21-2008, 10:34 PM
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12-22-2008, 06:57 AM
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You're a funny guy, so tell me where I said it's only for legal reasons?
Since I've dismissed your ridiculous notion that engineers not lawyers write the manual,so we have quite the conundrum don't we?
Now either case it's your car you do what you think is best for it....and btw legally if the company doesn't say you shouldn't do something you can pretty much still do it and sue and then go hey look! they didn't tell me I shouldn't do that!....You need to remember the engine's not the only part in your car either
OP best of luck man, it'll be covered under warranty keep us updated! sorry ur thread got jacked
12-22-2008, 08:51 AM
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You're a funny guy, so tell me where I said it's only for legal reasons?
Since I've dismissed your ridiculous notion that engineers not lawyers write the manual,so we have quite the conundrum don't we?
Now either case it's your car you do what you think is best for it....and btw legally if the company doesn't say you shouldn't do something you can pretty much still do it and sue and then go hey look! they didn't tell me I shouldn't do that!....You need to remember the engine's not the only part in your car either
OP best of luck man, it'll be covered under warranty keep us updated! sorry ur thread got jacked
You're a funny guy, so tell me where I said it's only for legal reasons?
Since I've dismissed your ridiculous notion that engineers not lawyers write the manual,so we have quite the conundrum don't we?
Now either case it's your car you do what you think is best for it....and btw legally if the company doesn't say you shouldn't do something you can pretty much still do it and sue and then go hey look! they didn't tell me I shouldn't do that!....You need to remember the engine's not the only part in your car either
OP best of luck man, it'll be covered under warranty keep us updated! sorry ur thread got jacked
12-22-2008, 09:15 AM
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C 350 Obsidian Black
As stated previously. There isn't a magical "Black Box" in your cars that will record things as far as voiding warranties, or even crash data. They don't do it.
Also as stated previously. All AMG motors are hand assembled (Known already). Every motor during assembly is prelubricated. This means they don't just fill the oil pan, they actually run pressurized oil into the galleys so that nothing is rotated on a dry system. Then from here EVERY single motor is "Cold Ran". This means they put it on a machine that will electrically drive the motor and compression and oil pressures are tested before they even leave the facility for installation.
Also stated there is a random number that are taken to be dyno ran and when they dyno run them they run them hard. 24 Hrs on a dyno is not any different than 1 or 5 hours on a dyno. As long as there is adequate cooling for fluids the motor doesn't really care. Also a side note is that the AMG dynos are also used to power their facilities since they are loading the motor with a generator.
As for the break in, I like to break in a motor. But also read around and especially in the Sportbike world they swear by buying the bike, let it get up to temperature then just rip on it as hard as you can. So break in I leave up to you. But AMG motors are one of the best / most reliable motors out there.
Also as stated previously. All AMG motors are hand assembled (Known already). Every motor during assembly is prelubricated. This means they don't just fill the oil pan, they actually run pressurized oil into the galleys so that nothing is rotated on a dry system. Then from here EVERY single motor is "Cold Ran". This means they put it on a machine that will electrically drive the motor and compression and oil pressures are tested before they even leave the facility for installation.
Also stated there is a random number that are taken to be dyno ran and when they dyno run them they run them hard. 24 Hrs on a dyno is not any different than 1 or 5 hours on a dyno. As long as there is adequate cooling for fluids the motor doesn't really care. Also a side note is that the AMG dynos are also used to power their facilities since they are loading the motor with a generator.
As for the break in, I like to break in a motor. But also read around and especially in the Sportbike world they swear by buying the bike, let it get up to temperature then just rip on it as hard as you can. So break in I leave up to you. But AMG motors are one of the best / most reliable motors out there.
12-10-2009, 04:52 PM
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Poster #10 is correct - the break-in period is for the transmission and rear-end, not the engine. The engine is run hard at the factory before being installed.
That doesn't mean transmissions are cheap, however. Change the fluids regularly (in both the trans and rear-end), and you will likely have nothing to worry about.
That doesn't mean transmissions are cheap, however. Change the fluids regularly (in both the trans and rear-end), and you will likely have nothing to worry about.
12-10-2009, 06:10 PM
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Exactly.
This is an old thread and FULL OF MISINFORMATION.
I toured the AMG factory in Affalterbach 3 months ago.
They build up to 60 M156 V8's a day... do some of you guys really believe they'd pull 6 engines a day and run them hard and tear them down? Don't believe everything you hear, even if it comes from a "knowledgeable dealer." Have they toured the factory?
The M156 V8 is cold bench tested, that means a machine turns the crank. AMG has long considered getting rid of this cold bench test, because every engine passes it. But they still do it. The entire build process is very controlled and precise.
The only engine that might be plucked from the bunch and hot bench tested (which these days is not a big bunch, they only were building *one* the day I visited) is the SLR engine. I saw it on that test bench, behind a viewing glass, with an operator behind another viewing glass in another room. Very cool.
The AMG factory rep in Affalterbach (not some "PR lady" in the US) said the M156 engines are not "broken in." The first time our engines are fired up is when they're installed in the W204's at the Bremen factory.
It's an amazing piece of machinery with the very best parts inside, assembled by the best mechanics, in an incredibly precise process.
But it's not run hard, for 24 hours or even 24 seconds (LMAO) . THAT'S the old wives tale.
Last edited by Hans Delbruck; 12-11-2009 at 10:25 PM. Reason: Bremen factory
