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Old 12-27-2008, 06:57 PM
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2009 c63 white,2006 s4
PSS10 or KW V3

Any suggestion on which one i should get out of the 2 pss10 or kw v3, and any one could give me roughly the price of them

Also i would like to know what's the difference btw KW V3 coilover kit 07+ MERCEDES-BENZ C CLASS 8CYL and KW V3 coilover kit AMG C-Klasse C63 (204) SEDAN

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KW's..around 2300 for the one's for regular c class..and 2700 for the one's for the c63 specific. Only difference is a 10lb load rating. I have the Regular C W204 KWv3 on my C63..perfecto!

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KW's are nice suspensions. Bilstein is closed till next week. I will give them a call and save this thread and let you know if they are available and how much.

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I put PSS9s on my 97 Porsche Turbo and that was nice upgrade from the OEM shocks. I had to upgrade the sway bars too.
I am looking forward to the PSS10 to see how they are however
the 10 settings are about 5 too many. I used 3front and 4 rear on the street. 1 and 2 respectively at the track
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Is the PSS10 out yet? I checked there website and found nothing available for the C63
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Yes the PSS10s are available for other cars but I agree I havent seen
the ones for ours. Our car is so new other than Andy at MPH I havent seen a bunch of work going into the C63 yet. Lots of stuff on chips and exhaust work but someone needs to work on our suspension platform.

I think this is a great platform and someone should come out with a suspension package for this car that would just annihilate the M3 on the track.
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Yes the PSS10s are available for other cars but I agree I havent seen
the ones for ours. Our car is so new other than Andy at MPH I havent seen a bunch of work going into the C63 yet. Lots of stuff on chips and exhaust work but someone needs to work on our suspension platform.

I think this is a great platform and someone should come out with a suspension package for this car that would just annihilate the M3 on the track.
I believe the suspension needs to be stiffer, I took a C63 for a test drive on the autobahn last week and can't believe that people have complained about it being too harsh?
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was it a performance package or not?
I like mine with the PP. But I came out of a GT3 and THAT was stiff.
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was it a performance package or not?
I like mine with the PP. But I came out of a GT3 and THAT was stiff.
It was non PP, when I finally get mine the first thing I will do will lower and stiffen the suspension. The test drive was a blast and had a smile from ear to ear. I took it to 160 mph several times and did some hard braking and was very impressed. The braking was in the same league as Porsche in my mind and the acceleration was brutal.Non PP brakes are more than capable for high speed driving on the autobahn
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I dont think there is a big difference in the PP brakes and regular AMG brakes. Maybe after 40 laps but thats not real world. And yes the stock AMG brakes (are HUGE) are as good or better than some 911 brake setups except for the carbon composites I had on my GT3, but that was a $9K option. The same brakes that were on the AMG Black series.
Please when you get your car setup let us know what it is and how it performs!!!
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I dont think there is a big difference in the PP brakes and regular AMG brakes. Maybe after 40 laps but thats not real world. And yes the stock AMG brakes (are HUGE) are as good or better than some 911 brake setups except for the carbon composites I had on my GT3, but that was a $9K option. The same brakes that were on the AMG Black series.
Please when you get your car setup let us know what it is and how it performs!!!
Paul, What would be your choice in suspension in this thread? Over the years I have had Bilstein,Koni yellow and Carlsson.
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Well the only experience I had were with the Bilstiens. They are a great compromise for a Street car that does some track work. The next two cars I had were GT3's The stock suspension on those two cars (04 996GT3, and my 07 997 GT3) were good enough for me (Porsche coilovers). The next step for me was going to be Motons. But then I ran into back trouble and now back surgery 4 weeks ago so I "sacrificed" my GT3 for the 09 AMG and I have been very happy with it. As I heal and get better I am thinking of what suspension setups to use with this AMG. We all know it can go fast straight away and every one is chipping the hell out of a hell of a motor, but I dont see alot of guys working on the weakest part of our car is the handling. Which SEEMS to be a issue that we are starting to talk about.
Have you thought about what to do with your suspension out side of changing your springs to lower the car? I want to know if we have to change our sways and shocks/springs? drop links? Camber toe
corner balance, and settings? Probably someone in Europe has the answer unless someone is running the C63 in a series or has alot of track days in the C63 here.
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Well the only experience I had were with the Bilstiens. They are a great compromise for a Street car that does some track work. The next two cars I had were GT3's The stock suspension on those two cars (04 996GT3, and my 07 997 GT3) were good enough for me (Porsche coilovers). The next step for me was going to be Motons. But then I ran into back trouble and now back surgery 4 weeks ago so I "sacrificed" my GT3 for the 09 AMG and I have been very happy with it. As I heal and get better I am thinking of what suspension setups to use with this AMG. We all know it can go fast straight away and every one is chipping the hell out of a hell of a motor, but I dont see alot of guys working on the weakest part of our car is the handling. Which SEEMS to be a issue that we are starting to talk about.
Have you thought about what to do with your suspension out side of changing your springs to lower the car? I want to know if we have to change our sways and shocks/springs? drop links? Camber toe
corner balance, and settings? Probably someone in Europe has the answer unless someone is running the C63 in a series or has alot of track days in the C63 here.
I would like to replace shocks and springs (priority #1) and sways would be a good thing and more rubber on the asphalt for traction and then later down the road have a talk with Andy. I agree with you handling is the most important part to tackle.
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Yea its like when I was in high school playing football and the guys in the weight room with big arms kept doing curls when their thighs and calves looked like bird legs. You have to work on your weakest part and thats how you get better faster. I wont go to a drag strip with my car, I WILL go to Willow Springs when I recover and I WILL talk to Andy too!!

I like lap times instead of 1/4 mile times but I have to admit I love seeing what times Andy comes up with at the strip.

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Yes, I will take a Sunday drive at the Nurburgring when I have mine
Well it's after midnight in Germany and I have to work on multi million dollar military aircraft in the morning so I need my beauty sleep!!
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REALLY? I work for the Navy and I do the same thing. What do you do?
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lol, so did anyone manage to get a result from PSS10 v V3? i've always known the bilstein coilovers are fantastic.. but not so sure on the KW's..
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got kw`s 3 on my evo 8 and they are really good ! Got the PP package and quite fine with me for now !
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I personally like Bilstein. I've sold and installed several of these over years but I've heard good things about KW as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. We are a master distributor for Bilstein and their NC warehouse is right up the road from us so if you go this route we can get them for you pretty quickly....

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KW V3 - always! best coilovers that were ever made
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Mathew: i got the Performance Pack on me six three and i still kinda feel some body roll when i do some cornering.. mind PM-ing me how much does it cost for a set of PSS10 and shipped to Brunei? thanks!

yooker: i totally agree!!!

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