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Old 01-14-2009 | 04:26 PM
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How much truth is there in this?

My friend bought a 2009 M3 with DCT. Today he and a C63 went at it having fun and said the C63 could not pass him. The M3 is stock too. I thought it was odd since the C63 has more overall hp and torque. I remember seeing a Speed channel on this and the Benz always faired better on the straight out runs.

I'm just curious more than anything else.
Old 01-14-2009 | 04:31 PM
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Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses. These steps must be repeatable in order to dependably predict any future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many hypotheses together in a coherent structure. This in turn may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.
Hopefully you can judge for yourself what I have just pasted.
Old 01-14-2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trbo2nr
My friend bought a 2009 M3 with DCT. Today he and a C63 went at it having fun and said the C63 could not pass him. The M3 is stock too. I thought it was odd since the C63 has more overall hp and torque. I remember seeing a Speed channel on this and the Benz always faired better on the straight out runs.

I'm just curious more than anything else.
Too many variables to judge

1. Did they go from three honks, and who jumped first?
2. Are both good drivers?
3. What tires are on both cars?
4. What speed did they start at?
Etc, etc.

From a dig, with both reasonable drivers the C63 wins. MANY reputable sources have confirmed this time and time again.

Hope it helped my friend

See yeah
Old 01-14-2009 | 04:42 PM
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Too many variables to judge

1. Did they go from three honks, and who jumped first?
2. Are both good drivers?
3. What tires are on both cars?
4. What speed did they start at?
Etc, etc.

From a dig, with both reasonable drivers the C63 wins. MANY reputable sources have confirmed this time and time again.

Hope it helped my friend

See yeah
That's my thinking and understand your points. Rolling from 20 mph from what I understand. I assume both stock but who knows.
Old 01-14-2009 | 04:47 PM
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Stock vs stock s/b a close race. The C63 should win from a dig as previously stated, but from a roll at the right speed the M will hang with it due to much faster shifting and potentially being in the sweet spot of its powerband.

Now throw a tune on the C63 and the M doesn't have a prayer even if it is also tuned.
Old 01-14-2009 | 04:53 PM
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Stock vs stock s/b a close race. The C63 should win from a dig as previously stated, but from a roll at the right speed the M will hang with it due to much faster shifting and potentially being in the sweet spot of its powerband.

Now throw a tune on the C63 and the M doesn't have a prayer even if it is also tuned.
Yeah he mentioned his M having DCT and like 11 programs to switch to.
Old 01-15-2009 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by trbo2nr
My friend bought a 2009 M3 with DCT. Today he and a C63 went at it having fun and said the C63 could not pass him. The M3 is stock too. I thought it was odd since the C63 has more overall hp and torque. I remember seeing a Speed channel on this and the Benz always faired better on the straight out runs.

I'm just curious more than anything else.
Typical BMW Driver

They always felt their car the Ultimate Driving machine, no others will able to matched-up

J/K
Old 01-15-2009 | 08:47 AM
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it all had to do with the driver, i race one wher i was behind him at the light and i pulled in front of him after 120. but that was stick and he still though he won. lol
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Originally Posted by trbo2nr
My friend bought a 2009 M3 with DCT. Today he and a C63 went at it having fun and said the C63 could not pass him. The M3 is stock too. I thought it was odd since the C63 has more overall hp and torque. I remember seeing a Speed channel on this and the Benz always faired better on the straight out runs.

I'm just curious more than anything else.

Your friend has been out driven!
Old 07-26-2009 | 04:02 AM
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Variables are what makes cars what they are... I love when each gear head can have their own secret weapon/'s that makes their car theirs.
Old 07-26-2009 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by B.E.R.U.A.N.G
Typical BMW Driver

They always felt their car the Ultimate Driving machine, no others will able to matched-up

J/K
A big plus 1, Its funny that I dont see BMW as the ultimate dominating force over here on the German roads and autobahns.
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Here's a SAT and/or GRE test question:

One day in the summer of 2009, a German M3 automobile passed a German C63 automobile while having fun racing on a street somewhere in Virginia, USA. The M3 was equipped with a DCT transmission and the C63 was white.

Based on this information, which of the following statements are correct:

1) All M3 automobiles with DCT will always pass all white C63 automobiles.
2) A M3 automobile with DCT will always pass a white C63 only in Virginia, USA.
3) A white C63 cannot pass a M3 with DCT in the summer.
4) A white C63 automobile cannot pass any M3 automobile with DCT in Virginia, USA.
5) Any M3 automobile with DCT will always pass any C63 automobile.
6) Any M3 automobile with DCT will always pass any C63 automobile in the summer.
7) None of the above.
Old 07-26-2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 220S
Here's a SAT and/or GRE test question:

One day in the summer of 2009, a German M3 automobile passed a German C63 automobile while having fun racing on a street somewhere in Virginia, USA. The M3 was equipped with a DCT transmission and the C63 was white.

Based on this information, which of the following statements are correct:

1) All M3 automobiles with DCT will always pass all white C63 automobiles.
2) A M3 automobile with DCT will always pass a white C63 only in Virginia, USA.
3) A white C63 cannot pass a M3 with DCT in the summer.
4) A white C63 automobile cannot pass any M3 automobile with DCT in Virginia, USA.
5) Any M3 automobile with DCT will always pass any C63 automobile.
6) Any M3 automobile with DCT will always pass any C63 automobile in the summer.
7) None of the above.


7!
Old 07-26-2009 | 05:34 PM
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There's a fundamental flaw in this whole story:

M3 drivers have no friends.

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