Kleemann or not to Kleemann
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http://www.mkb-power.de/upload/produ...8f8c29d997.jpg
This is an image of the MKB shorts. A pic of the Kleemann package is shown in the Group Buy post from Mathew. The MKB's are a 4>2>1 style where all others that I have seen including mine are a 4>1 similiar to stock.
This is an image of the MKB shorts. A pic of the Kleemann package is shown in the Group Buy post from Mathew. The MKB's are a 4>2>1 style where all others that I have seen including mine are a 4>1 similiar to stock.
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I installed Kleemann headers on CL63 and now the car feels slower that stock.
I was adviced to delete their sport cats: Do not use the cats.At 200 cell small, they flow worse than 600 cell big.Take them off.
I did it and now i have hushing sound in exhaust while acceleration...
Advice where can i buy good sport cats?
I was adviced to delete their sport cats: Do not use the cats.At 200 cell small, they flow worse than 600 cell big.Take them off.
I did it and now i have hushing sound in exhaust while acceleration...
Advice where can i buy good sport cats?
Last edited by yaroslav; Sep 14, 2009 at 08:33 AM.
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http://www.mkb-power.de/upload/produ...8f8c29d997.jpg
This is an image of the MKB shorts. A pic of the Kleemann package is shown in the Group Buy post from Mathew. The MKB's are a 4>2>1 style where all others that I have seen including mine are a 4>1 similiar to stock.
This is an image of the MKB shorts. A pic of the Kleemann package is shown in the Group Buy post from Mathew. The MKB's are a 4>2>1 style where all others that I have seen including mine are a 4>1 similiar to stock.
Man i got a question for u! did u like get ur car tuned by kleeman and u just added the MHP lontubes and u got that amazing result??
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I have a question cause I was going to put the Kleemann k1 in my car and was wondering. Do you guys who have the chip drive you cars everyday and/or has any one had any problems and had to bring your car to the dealer?
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I drive it every day and runs better and smoother every day. Did not have to bring to the dealer yet.
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also...is this mix and match work good? like getting Kleeman ECU, MKB's header and MHP long tube plus sports cat? any issues?
i would prefer one make...but if the exhaust sounds from this mix and max is better and have same/better output...i dnt really mind
...i just not sure Kleeman's one program fits all ECU can cop with other brands/designs headers and long tubes.
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The headers themsevles were $4k, add cats with that bumps the price up another $500-$600. These are the only long tubes available that I know of right now. I'm not sure if the Evosport ones are available to the public yet, but the quality on the MHP ones are excellent. Also, these isn't JUST the headers either, it also replaces all the stock 2.5" piping up to the resonator with 3" tubes.
As far as mixing and matching. I think the one thing that makes the MHP package louder compared to others is the larger diameter tubes in the mid section. But I believe simply removing the secondary cats and/or replacing the primaries with high flow cats will make any C63 sound very loud and aggressive. I agree I would rather have a tune to match the long tube headers rather than mixing, but hhughes seemed to achieve very good results with his Kleeman tune and MHP headers so I guess it's simply a personal choice at that point.
As far as mixing and matching. I think the one thing that makes the MHP package louder compared to others is the larger diameter tubes in the mid section. But I believe simply removing the secondary cats and/or replacing the primaries with high flow cats will make any C63 sound very loud and aggressive. I agree I would rather have a tune to match the long tube headers rather than mixing, but hhughes seemed to achieve very good results with his Kleeman tune and MHP headers so I guess it's simply a personal choice at that point.
Last edited by nrgy; Sep 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM.
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I couldn't say for sure, hhughes would probably be the best one to ask as he's had both setups, but if I had to guess I would say the MHP package is louder. Actually I think hhughes even said this himself.
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Yes it's much louder at least in the catless setup. This vid starts with Dad'sC63 and then mine near the end. We were nearly black flagged for the decibal readings!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_mQ-6kGxAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_mQ-6kGxAY
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The Evosport LT's go for $6,000 and you will also need to modify the stock cat-back to fit the longtubes.. Basically weld them on
Why Does it Cost $2,000 for LT's on a C6 Z06 and $6,500-$7,500 for a C63 AMG.. They are both the same diameter, same material, and almost the same length..
*Edit* Did anybody Try the RENNtech C63 Longtube Headers ?? They go for $3,500
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This price is listed on the MHP website..
The Evosport LT's go for $6,000 and you will also need to modify the stock cat-back to fit the longtubes.. Basically weld them on
Why Does it Cost $2,000 for LT's on a C6 Z06 and $6,500-$7,500 for a C63 AMG.. They are both the same diameter, same material, and almost the same length..
*Edit* Did any Try the RENNtech C63 Longtube Headers ?? They go for $3,500
The Evosport LT's go for $6,000 and you will also need to modify the stock cat-back to fit the longtubes.. Basically weld them on
Why Does it Cost $2,000 for LT's on a C6 Z06 and $6,500-$7,500 for a C63 AMG.. They are both the same diameter, same material, and almost the same length..
*Edit* Did any Try the RENNtech C63 Longtube Headers ?? They go for $3,500
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This is a repost, but below are some vids with my KLEEMANN K2 package:
cold start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B-qh7B-VXQ
acceleration (note fast, crisp shifts in S mode): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xthKLsm4dU
cold start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B-qh7B-VXQ
acceleration (note fast, crisp shifts in S mode): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xthKLsm4dU
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This price is listed on the MHP website..
The Evosport LT's go for $6,000 and you will also need to modify the stock cat-back to fit the longtubes.. Basically weld them on
Why Does it Cost $2,000 for LT's on a C6 Z06 and $6,500-$7,500 for a C63 AMG.. They are both the same diameter, same material, and almost the same length..
*Edit* Did anybody Try the RENNtech C63 Longtube Headers ?? They go for $3,500
The Evosport LT's go for $6,000 and you will also need to modify the stock cat-back to fit the longtubes.. Basically weld them on
Why Does it Cost $2,000 for LT's on a C6 Z06 and $6,500-$7,500 for a C63 AMG.. They are both the same diameter, same material, and almost the same length..
*Edit* Did anybody Try the RENNtech C63 Longtube Headers ?? They go for $3,500
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http://www.modernhorsepower.com/c63-AMG-exhaust.html
Link to RENNtech Long tube 63 Series Headers:
http://dyno-comp.com/details.php?model=64&type=80#st
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Link to MHP headers prices:
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/c63-AMG-exhaust.html
Link to RENNtech Long tube 63 Series Headers:
http://dyno-comp.com/details.php?model=64&type=80#st
http://www.modernhorsepower.com/c63-AMG-exhaust.html
Link to RENNtech Long tube 63 Series Headers:
http://dyno-comp.com/details.php?model=64&type=80#st
