HRE Carbon Series Wheels: First Pre-Order!
04-17-2009, 08:40 PM
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You can also show off with a bimbo on your arm sporting 5 thousand dollar cannons with a bikini top. You'll get noticed, guys and girls will look.
04-17-2009, 11:12 PM
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Stock 18's: 26lbs front, 26.5lbs rear (without TPMS sensors, but with a bunch of brake dust).
So, if you go with 19", your eliminating about 24 pounds of rotating mass. If that equates to 1lb= 1 HP gain in peformance, that's the equivalent of a header swap. Not exactly what the weight to HP calculation actually is, but even if it's .5 HP per pound removed, that's still a 12 HP increase, not to mention that the wheels look awesome.
So, if you go with 19", your eliminating about 24 pounds of rotating mass. If that equates to 1lb= 1 HP gain in peformance, that's the equivalent of a header swap. Not exactly what the weight to HP calculation actually is, but even if it's .5 HP per pound removed, that's still a 12 HP increase, not to mention that the wheels look awesome.
04-17-2009, 11:22 PM
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As an ethusiast, I can tell you there is as much justification in this as installing a $10k audio system in a Honda Civic. Or better, as much justification as spending $65k on a car when you can spend $15k. At least with the wheels, there is form and function, but I suppose that's all relative. With the Dymags, we dyno'd an extra ~25 HP a the WHEELS on CLK Black! In this passion, there is no rational, logic or justification for anything we do. We do it because it makes us feel good. It evokes an emotion.
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
Putting a 10k audio system in a Honda?!?! wtf are people thinking man, that’s like 40-50% of the cars value hahaha. Yet people actually do these things like you said....
04-17-2009, 11:30 PM
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04-18-2009, 12:50 AM
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04-18-2009, 01:40 AM
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Uhm, yeah... I think I'll take a set of 19s: 9" front, 11" rear. Yes, 11" rear. How's that going to work, you ask? I'm not sure just yet. But it'll happen. Mark my words: It'll happen.
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Uhm, yeah... I think I'll take a set of 19s: 9" front, 11" rear. Yes, 11" rear. How's that going to work, you ask? I'm not sure just yet. But it'll happen. Mark my words: It'll happen.
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04-18-2009, 02:48 PM
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Oh yeah, and spinners!
04-19-2009, 02:16 AM
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04-19-2009, 02:18 AM
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04-19-2009, 03:03 PM
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Thanks, man. This car is definitely becoming a much bigger project than I had originally planned.
Original plan: Black window trim, tint & chip. I think I overshot that, maybe just a little.
Current plan: C Class Black Series Doppleganger, 500WHP NA. Surprisingly, both are now within reach...
Yeah, thanks. I'm not sure if I got my order in on time. I asked Simon about it Friday after work. Might be too late, but the seed is planted...
For now...
Josh
Original plan: Black window trim, tint & chip. I think I overshot that, maybe just a little.
Current plan: C Class Black Series Doppleganger, 500WHP NA. Surprisingly, both are now within reach...
For now...
Josh
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07-10-2009, 02:12 PM
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The rims are between $10k-$11K (for the set) depending on size. I have received multiple quotes both from HRE and a couple dealers. If you think about it, and if the weight #'s check out, you can technically "gain/unleash" a bunch of HP by removing all that rotating mass off the wheel. It may actually end up being a better performance upgrade then doing a Kleemann K2 (not to mention the looks are a plus.) That is however, contingent on the weight of these wheels vs. stock vs. standard HRE's. Figure your $5K in for a set of HRE's of any type if not more. $10K really isn't that bad if you look at it that way. But, depends what the actual weight ends up being. Removing rotating mass does significantly increase performance and if you plan on doing wheels anyways, the extra money for these wheels as opposed to standard HRE's, vs. doing headers and a pully may be a better deal. Its apples vs. oranges on this one.
I bought BST Carbon Wheels with magneisum hubs for my bike back in the day. The two wheels (without tires) were $3200.00 for the pair. This was back in 2005. So $10K for these really isn't that bad.
I bought BST Carbon Wheels with magneisum hubs for my bike back in the day. The two wheels (without tires) were $3200.00 for the pair. This was back in 2005. So $10K for these really isn't that bad.
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07-10-2009, 02:26 PM
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As an enthusiast myself, I can tell you there is as much justification in this as installing a $10k audio system in a Honda Civic. Or better, as much justification as spending $65k on a car when you can spend $15k. At least with the wheels, there is form and function, but I suppose that's all relative. With the Dymags, we dyno'd an extra ~25 HP a the WHEELS on CLK Black! In this passion, there is no rational, logic or justification for anything we do. We do it because it makes us feel good. It evokes an emotion.
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
I'm sorry but as a seller that type of biased opinion means nothing.
I highly doubt you can really get 25 usable hp just by adding wheels.
People don't install 10k audio systems on a civic unless they're doing specifically for some show.
65k on a car when you can spend 15k? Uhhh.... that doesn't make ANY sense. You're saying that because people on this board were willing to spend 65k on a performance car with 451 hp instead of 15k on a civic they should also spend another 10k on wheels?
No matter what the companies state, pretty aftermarket wheels will get damaged if it hits a big enough pot hole. Then that's another 2500 out the pocket. The only people who should be buying these rims are people who can really afford them (ie worth at least a few million). If you have to sell other things to be able to afford these rims then you shouldn't be buying these rims. What will you sell when you break one?
07-10-2009, 02:29 PM
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I can think of a lot better and cheaper ways to get noticed...if that's what you're going for. These wheels are not about getting noticed. Trust me, they're not flashy. The person who buys carbon wheels (and we've sold over a dozen Dymags) wants functionality and puts a high value on unsprung weight. Whether it's a street car or track car, weight matters and carbon wheels have a tremendous benefit in reducing rotating mass. I've had carbon wheels on my cars and they really are not attention grabbers...you can't tell it's carbon until you get close anyway.
So far, most people who want these wheels want them for their looks (ie CF43) I doubt most people are looking at these wheels as a performance mod than a aesthetic mod.
07-10-2009, 02:30 PM
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Stock 18's: 26lbs front, 26.5lbs rear (without TPMS sensors, but with a bunch of brake dust).
So, if you go with 19", your eliminating about 24 pounds of rotating mass. If that equates to 1lb= 1 HP gain in peformance, that's the equivalent of a header swap. Not exactly what the weight to HP calculation actually is, but even if it's .5 HP per pound removed, that's still a 12 HP increase, not to mention that the wheels look awesome.
So, if you go with 19", your eliminating about 24 pounds of rotating mass. If that equates to 1lb= 1 HP gain in peformance, that's the equivalent of a header swap. Not exactly what the weight to HP calculation actually is, but even if it's .5 HP per pound removed, that's still a 12 HP increase, not to mention that the wheels look awesome.
I HIGHLY doubt the calculations are that simple.
03-08-2010, 10:10 PM
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Just curious if these wheels are still being made? I heard Dymag went under, but they were bought by HRE? Is this correct, and if so are the original Dymags still being produced?
03-08-2010, 10:14 PM
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We do have a couple sets of carbon wheels that are being installed on customer vehicles shortly. They do look amazing.
03-08-2010, 10:18 PM
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I don't think they were bought, rather it was some type of joint venture. When they went bankrupt, all HRE had left was what was already made. Don't know if they have sold out of what stock they may have had.
03-09-2010, 09:25 AM
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10K? Yeah on my S65. (If I had one) Not on a C class.
A good example is putting a 10K sound system in a honda.
Take that 10K and bring it to Brabus. Now thats worth putting into a C class.
A good example is putting a 10K sound system in a honda.
Take that 10K and bring it to Brabus. Now thats worth putting into a C class.
03-09-2010, 11:37 AM
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I think your comments should be put in a better perspective. Saying "a C-Class" is one thing, but we're talking about a C63, which is priced well beyond a "a C Class". Moreso, there is a larger probability that the C63 owner will modify their vehicle than an S65 owner IMO. When most high end wheels will run you $5-$7k, another $3k to get functional performance and something unique...
Besides, the S65 is too heavy for carbon wheels
Actually, that's not a good example at all. You are comparing installing a $10k audio system into an inexpensive (by your implied comment) Honda to installing $10k wheels on a $70k C63? While I agree that there is something called excessive, many would argue that having a V12 TT S65 is overly excessive. It's all relative.
Really? But you will need another $30k to buy the other 3 wheels Besides, most Brabus wheels are cast and heavy. Not until recently did they start marketing forged wheels.
Besides, the S65 is too heavy for carbon wheels
A good example is putting a 10K sound system in a honda.
Take that 10K and bring it to Brabus. Now thats worth putting into a C class.
Besides, most Brabus wheels are cast and heavy. Not until recently did they start marketing forged wheels.
03-09-2010, 11:48 AM
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I know, I know I sound like your father.......but hey.....you'll be 50 one of these days too and 80K when you want to slow down will likely have more value then those wheels today.....especially in light of the fact that the stock wheel ain't that bad!!!
03-09-2010, 11:55 AM
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Well......now that I just turned 50 and can remember spending $5k on a set of wheels when I was 30 which I got enjoyment from but almost nothing monetarily when I sold the car, I wish I had put the money in an investment......today I'd likely have $20K or more and likely around $80K by the time I'm 65
I know, I know I sound like your father.......but hey.....you'll be 50 one of these days too and 80K when you want to slow down will likely have more value then those wheels today.....especially in light of the fact that the stock wheel ain't that bad!!!
I know, I know I sound like your father.......but hey.....you'll be 50 one of these days too and 80K when you want to slow down will likely have more value then those wheels today.....especially in light of the fact that the stock wheel ain't that bad!!!
Enjoyment is not defined by monetary reward. If at 30 spending $5k brought you "enjoyment" then you did well. You are only 30 once. And if you recognize at 50 that you would spend your money on something different, then you have grown and recognized that your priorities have changed (a good thing). Get back to us when you're 70 and let's see how you did with your investments at 50
03-09-2010, 11:56 AM
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$10,000 for a set of wheels ??????????for $10,000 , i could get..........
custom 3-piece wheels
coilovers
ecu upgrade with headers
HRE makes some nice wheels but that price is insane !
