HRE Carbon Series Wheels: First Pre-Order!
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HRE Carbon Series Wheels: First Pre-Order!
HRE is excited to announce the introduction of their Carbon Series. As a preferred HRE distribution partner, Evosport has been selected amongst a limited group to be able to sell this exciting new product line in the United States.
The pre-order for these wheels with a delivery target date of July 1, 2009 must be placed this week, April 17. Deliveries for orders received after the pre-order period will begin September 1, 2009. Please call us ASAP for more information or to place an order. Current fitments in 19 and 20" are available for:
PRODUCT & TECHNICAL OVERVIEW
1. General Product Information
The pre-order for these wheels with a delivery target date of July 1, 2009 must be placed this week, April 17. Deliveries for orders received after the pre-order period will begin September 1, 2009. Please call us ASAP for more information or to place an order. Current fitments in 19 and 20" are available for:
- CLK63 Black Series AMG
- SL65 Black Series AMG
- C63 AMG
- Call for other applications
PRODUCT & TECHNICAL OVERVIEW
1. General Product Information
- a. Construction
i. Forged 6061-T6 center
ii. Dymag manufactured carbon fiber barrel
iii. Titanium bolts - b. 19” & 20” diameters will be available; other diameters will be available at a future time
- c. Widths: multiple based on vehicle application
- d. Vehicle applications: see application guide above
- e. Two styles will be available initially
i. CF43 - Fourteen-spoke
ii. CF40 - Mesh - f. Center finish: standard HRE finishes will be available for the forged
- aluminum Centers. Chrome will not be offered.
- g. Carbon fiber rims will include clear coat
- a. 20-25% reduction in unsprung mass of wheel resulting in improved
- handling and performance
- b. An even greater reduction in rotational inertia resulting in improved
- acceleration and braking performance
- c. Reduced unsprung mass and rotational inertia are equivalent to
- increased horsepower
- d. Fatigue tested at load levels surpassing TUV aluminum standards
- e. Energy required to damage the carbon fiber rims is higher than
- that required to damage current aluminum designs
- a. 5-year structural warranty
- b. 2-year warranty for standard finishes
- c. 1-year warranty for custom finishes
Last edited by Simon @ evosport; 04-17-2009 at 03:50 PM.
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sweeeet!!! the CF43's are hot aren't they.. tempted but still can't justify the pricing.. i guess its like the top of the range in terms of material and structure for a CF wheel
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The rims are between $10k-$11K (for the set) depending on size. I have received multiple quotes both from HRE and a couple dealers. If you think about it, and if the weight #'s check out, you can technically "gain/unleash" a bunch of HP by removing all that rotating mass off the wheel. It may actually end up being a better performance upgrade then doing a Kleemann K2 (not to mention the looks are a plus.) That is however, contingent on the weight of these wheels vs. stock vs. standard HRE's. Figure your $5K in for a set of HRE's of any type if not more. $10K really isn't that bad if you look at it that way. But, depends what the actual weight ends up being. Removing rotating mass does significantly increase performance and if you plan on doing wheels anyways, the extra money for these wheels as opposed to standard HRE's, vs. doing headers and a pully may be a better deal. Its apples vs. oranges on this one.
I bought BST Carbon Wheels with magneisum hubs for my bike back in the day. The two wheels (without tires) were $3200.00 for the pair. This was back in 2005. So $10K for these really isn't that bad.
I bought BST Carbon Wheels with magneisum hubs for my bike back in the day. The two wheels (without tires) were $3200.00 for the pair. This was back in 2005. So $10K for these really isn't that bad.
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Weights
A 19x9.0" weighs 17.2-lbs.
A 19x12.0 weighs 19.6lbs.
A 20x12.0" weighs 20.6-lbs.
Pricing
20” Applications = $10,995
19” Applications = $10,495
19/20” Applications = $10,745
A 19x9.0" weighs 17.2-lbs.
A 19x12.0 weighs 19.6lbs.
A 20x12.0" weighs 20.6-lbs.
Pricing
20” Applications = $10,995
19” Applications = $10,495
19/20” Applications = $10,745
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Stock 18's: 26lbs front, 26.5lbs rear (without TPMS sensors, but with a bunch of brake dust).
So, if you go with 19", your eliminating about 24 pounds of rotating mass. If that equates to 1lb= 1 HP gain in peformance, that's the equivalent of a header swap. Not exactly what the weight to HP calculation actually is, but even if it's .5 HP per pound removed, that's still a 12 HP increase, not to mention that the wheels look awesome.
So, if you go with 19", your eliminating about 24 pounds of rotating mass. If that equates to 1lb= 1 HP gain in peformance, that's the equivalent of a header swap. Not exactly what the weight to HP calculation actually is, but even if it's .5 HP per pound removed, that's still a 12 HP increase, not to mention that the wheels look awesome.
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Yikes! Thats enough money for a brand new KIA Rondo for the winter, gorgeous wheels, just really really hard to justify, HP gains and all.
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There is absolutely no way of justifying those wheels for our cars... Anyone who puts those on a C63 is out of their f’in mind! 10k wheels on a 65k car....
These wheels should only really be purchased for very expensive sport cars... Porsche turbo, gt2, gt3, Ferrari’s, Lambo's....etc.
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There is absolutely no way of justifying those wheels for our cars... Anyone who puts those on a C63 is out of their f’in mind! 10k wheels on a 65k car....
These wheels should only really be purchased for very expensive sport cars... Porsche turbo, gt2, gt3, Ferrari’s, Lambo's....etc.
There is absolutely no way of justifying those wheels for our cars... Anyone who puts those on a C63 is out of their f’in mind! 10k wheels on a 65k car....
These wheels should only really be purchased for very expensive sport cars... Porsche turbo, gt2, gt3, Ferrari’s, Lambo's....etc.
i have seen many c63's out there with 8k+ rims
so i dont find it that ig of a deal
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https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/289162-win.html
Now that that's been taken care of, uhm, anyone want to buy some almost new 19" Comp97s with T1-Rs? Less than 500 miles on them both. Seriously, I really NEED to buy those CF43s.
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Jeez, that looks a lot like something I wrote a few weeks ago in another thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/289162-win.html
Whaddya know... It IS something I wrote. Use the quote function next time.
Now that that's been taken care of, uhm, anyone want to buy some almost new 19" Comp97s with T1-Rs? Less than 500 miles on them both. Seriously, I really NEED to buy those CF43s.
Josh
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/289162-win.html
Whaddya know... It IS something I wrote. Use the quote function next time.
Now that that's been taken care of, uhm, anyone want to buy some almost new 19" Comp97s with T1-Rs? Less than 500 miles on them both. Seriously, I really NEED to buy those CF43s.
Josh
Yes, it is. Sorry, I give full credit to you for the data. I posted using my phone so the whole qutoe thing doesn't work so well.
Quit being a baby... geez.... act like you sat outside with a scale and weighed each wheel. The info. is in the owners manual.
Just kidding though...
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I'm satisfied with my Comp93 wheels on the car...Later down the road I plan on buying on the side a new Porsche GT3 to track it...and then I'll consider in buying these CF Series HRE wheels..But for the C63, it's way too much money if you're just planning on cruising around to show it off, etc...If any C63 owner decides on buying CF Series HRE's, then I hope they use the car to track it on a course or something...
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There is absolutely no way of justifying those wheels for our cars... Anyone who puts those on a C63 is out of their f’in mind! 10k wheels on a 65k car....
These wheels should only really be purchased for very expensive sport cars... Porsche turbo, gt2, gt3, Ferrari’s, Lambo's....etc.
There is absolutely no way of justifying those wheels for our cars... Anyone who puts those on a C63 is out of their f’in mind! 10k wheels on a 65k car....
These wheels should only really be purchased for very expensive sport cars... Porsche turbo, gt2, gt3, Ferrari’s, Lambo's....etc.
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
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As an ethusiast, I can tell you there is as much justification in this as installing a $10k audio system in a Honda Civic. Or better, as much justification as spending $65k on a car when you can spend $15k. At least with the wheels, there is form and function, but I suppose that's all relative. With the Dymags, we dyno'd an extra ~25 HP a the WHEELS on CLK Black! In this passion, there is no rational, logic or justification for anything we do. We do it because it makes us feel good. It evokes an emotion.
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
Unfortunately, the guys buying Lambo's and Ferrari's are installing 200-lb chrome spinners with diamond studs. Go figure
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I can think of a lot better and cheaper ways to get noticed...if that's what you're going for. These wheels are not about getting noticed. Trust me, they're not flashy. The person who buys carbon wheels (and we've sold over a dozen Dymags) wants functionality and puts a high value on unsprung weight. Whether it's a street car or track car, weight matters and carbon wheels have a tremendous benefit in reducing rotating mass. I've had carbon wheels on my cars and they really are not attention grabbers...you can't tell it's carbon until you get close anyway.