C63's true top speed
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All I can say is she wasn't done. We let off and the Porsche Carrera Gt registered 196 and mine registered 193. Either way I was VERY impressed. When she changed from 5th to 6th at 186 I thought she would be done and fully intended on letting off. However, thats NOT the case. We were approaching traffic so we had to get out of it. I am sure this car will run 200mph or more with a few more minor tweaks. Be careful racing!
All I can say is she wasn't done. We let off and the Porsche Carrera Gt registered 196 and mine registered 193. Either way I was VERY impressed. When she changed from 5th to 6th at 186 I thought she would be done and fully intended on letting off. However, thats NOT the case. We were approaching traffic so we had to get out of it. I am sure this car will run 200mph or more with a few more minor tweaks. Be careful racing!
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All I can say is she wasn't done. We let off and the Porsche Carrera Gt registered 196 and mine registered 193. Either way I was VERY impressed. When she changed from 5th to 6th at 186 I thought she would be done and fully intended on letting off. However, thats NOT the case. We were approaching traffic so we had to get out of it. I am sure this car will run 200mph or more with a few more minor tweaks. Be careful racing!
All I can say is she wasn't done. We let off and the Porsche Carrera Gt registered 196 and mine registered 193. Either way I was VERY impressed. When she changed from 5th to 6th at 186 I thought she would be done and fully intended on letting off. However, thats NOT the case. We were approaching traffic so we had to get out of it. I am sure this car will run 200mph or more with a few more minor tweaks. Be careful racing!
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Most German cars are elec limited due to German laws, rules and regulations. There are Diesels over here that are limited at the same speed as a C63, E63 and it has nothing to do with being safe and capable of.A W202 C36 would do 280,285 km just fine. A W203 C 32 would do over 290 kph. I drove a CLK 55 from Trier to Wittlich in Germany and hit the magical 300kph and it felt more stable than when I drove a Carrera 2 at 280.I dont own a C63 just yet but have driven one hundreds of miles (over several occasions) and took it to 260 kph numerous times on the German autobahn and it was like a walk in the park.I dont make 400 dollars an hour doing so called equations but I have well over 25 years of high speed driving in Europe and a secret clearance in the aircraft fighter field (30 years). I am sure the C63 will handle the 200 mark just fine. Just remember the AMG Hammer (W124) did like 185 almost 3 decades ago beating out several so called "super cars". MB has been building their cars from the 190E and up to with stand speeds of at least 300kph and that was almost 3 decades ago, the first 190 comming out in Germany in the last half of 1982.
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If I'm an idiot, what are you? I'm here wasting time intentionally while I listen to a bunch of Dutch people babble on during a conference call.
You, on the other hand, are wasting your free time to call me an idiot?
Who's the idiot? I'm getting paid $400 an hour as a consultant to be on here. Who's paying you?
You, on the other hand, are wasting your free time to call me an idiot?
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Its funny how much this thread reminds me of the Porsche ceramic brakes discussion I had with a factory test driver. Yet... on my recent ordered car, I still bought them, only because its a resale feature. lol Everyone gets ceramics on a GT3 regardless if you need them or not. That's the only real reason Porsche even offers them.
"Everyone" does not get ceramic brakes. Serious track guys don't. Then again, serious track guys drive Radicals Hey where is cyE55?
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All this coming from a guy who posts his new car with prices for every little item, like anyone really gives a **** you got a new Porsche on here... really go bang your head.
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All I can say is she wasn't done. We let off and the Porsche Carrera Gt registered 196 and mine registered 193. Either way I was VERY impressed. When she changed from 5th to 6th at 186 I thought she would be done and fully intended on letting off. However, thats NOT the case. We were approaching traffic so we had to get out of it. I am sure this car will run 200mph or more with a few more minor tweaks. Be careful racing!
All I can say is she wasn't done. We let off and the Porsche Carrera Gt registered 196 and mine registered 193. Either way I was VERY impressed. When she changed from 5th to 6th at 186 I thought she would be done and fully intended on letting off. However, thats NOT the case. We were approaching traffic so we had to get out of it. I am sure this car will run 200mph or more with a few more minor tweaks. Be careful racing!
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Top speed can be calculated within a couple of mph accuracy based on a set of formulas. Here are some numbers based on science:
C63
451 HP
19 sq ft cross section (I think thats right)
3650+180=3830 lbs with driver
Drag Coefficient: .30
Top speed 184 mph (+/-2)
Assumptions: Speed limiter removed. Has OE wheels/tires. OE suspension. Zero Head/Tail wind.
C63
451 HP
19 sq ft cross section (I think thats right)
3650+180=3830 lbs with driver
Drag Coefficient: .30
Top speed 184 mph (+/-2)
Assumptions: Speed limiter removed. Has OE wheels/tires. OE suspension. Zero Head/Tail wind.
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Top speed can be calculated within a couple of mph accuracy based on a set of formulas. Here are some numbers based on science:
C63
451 HP
19 sq ft cross section (I think thats right)
3650+180=3830 lbs with driver
Drag Coefficient: .30
Top speed 184 mph (+/-2)
Assumptions: Speed limiter removed. Has OE wheels/tires. OE suspension. Zero Head/Tail wind.
C63
451 HP
19 sq ft cross section (I think thats right)
3650+180=3830 lbs with driver
Drag Coefficient: .30
Top speed 184 mph (+/-2)
Assumptions: Speed limiter removed. Has OE wheels/tires. OE suspension. Zero Head/Tail wind.
I believe the Cd for the C63 is .32. The normal C series is .30.
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This post topic has been very stimulating to read. Obviously, speed is very addictive and we all want to go fast, otherwise, we would have bought some other car to drive. But no matter how fast our C63s would of, could of, should of gone, it's not all about speed. Members talk about how much education, experience, and knowledgable they are. Let's not forget our responsibility in remaining dignant and civil as C63 owners. Moreso, as owners of these vehicles, it's up to us to reflect, not only do we have a fantastic car, we also have fantastic attitudes, and can operate our cars with safety in mind. How safe do you want to be? It's hard to drive a fast car slow. It takes good judgement to avoid the big accident. I couldn't stop reading this thread once I got started. You bet, intense.
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This post topic has been very stimulating to read. Obviously, speed is very addictive and we all want to go fast, otherwise, we would have bought some other car to drive. But no matter how fast our C63s would of, could of, should of gone, it's not all about speed. Members talk about how much education, experience, and knowledgable they are. Let's not forget our responsibility in remaining dignant and civil as C63 owners. Moreso, as owners of these vehicles, it's up to us to reflect, not only do we have a fantastic car, we also have fantastic attitudes, and can operate our cars with safety in mind. How safe do you want to be? It's hard to drive a fast car slow. It takes good judgement to avoid the big accident. I couldn't stop reading this thread once I got started. You bet, intense.
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Ok, well not to try and continue to stir the pot, but 2 of the most extremely modded C63's (DadsC63 and Andy, from MKB) will be attending a 1 mile time trial event in Norht Carolina in Sept. http://www.ecta-lsr.com/?page_id=68 I would think that mile long run from these cars will be more than enough to give everyone a pretty accurate "TOP SPEED" number to agrue over. So we'll have to wait and see.
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Ok, well not to try and continue to stir the pot, but 2 of the most extremely modded C63's (DadsC63 and Andy, from MKB) will be attending a 1 mile time trial event in Norht Carolina in Sept. http://www.ecta-lsr.com/?page_id=68 I would think that mile long run from these cars will be more than enough to give everyone a pretty accurate "TOP SPEED" number to agrue over. So we'll have to wait and see.
That said, it should be real interesting to see what these highly modded C63's can do in a 1 mile run... a highly modded CLS63 did the Texas Mile fairly recently, although I don't recall offhand what MPH he reached... it was pretty stout from what I remember.
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There has been a change of plans, due to problems out of our controls. But this 1 mile run is still on, just different location. Andy and I will be running the 1 mile event in beautiful South Florida in Oct.
http://milemarker-1.com/
With this being in South Florida, and a good number of members in that area, anyone else making plans to come out for this one. This event is going to be much more "daily driver car" friendly. Looking forward to seeing what we can get out of this cars.......
http://milemarker-1.com/
With this being in South Florida, and a good number of members in that area, anyone else making plans to come out for this one. This event is going to be much more "daily driver car" friendly. Looking forward to seeing what we can get out of this cars.......
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Hang on, guys, are we talking about the car in its "stock" form? With just the speed limiter removed?
I know that in modded form, the sky's the limit, but what is the theoretical top speed of the car in stock form with any and all forms of factory-installed speed limiting removed?
I know that in modded form, the sky's the limit, but what is the theoretical top speed of the car in stock form with any and all forms of factory-installed speed limiting removed?
please go to page one and read post 4 and post 5.
Did he(Charleszai) not specifically said that his ECU is upgraded? why would you doubt it? 174mph with a stock factory set up on the perfromance package but obviously he said that he did the ECU upgrade so those 50-60hp extra would put you at around 185mph. Why wouldn't you believe it?
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C63 will NEVER hit the 200 mph mark. Not possible due to the aerodynamics of the car, atleast not while being stable. Do you have any idea what the lift is on a car capable of 200 mph? We are talking a 4 door sedan, not a super car.
190 mph and the C63 will be shaking like the chassis is about to fall apart. If you are think you can push this car to 200 mph you're crazy. Regardless of HP #'s, etc., the chassis can't support. There is a HUGE difference between a C63 and super car chassis.
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190 mph and the C63 will be shaking like the chassis is about to fall apart. If you are think you can push this car to 200 mph you're crazy. Regardless of HP #'s, etc., the chassis can't support. There is a HUGE difference between a C63 and super car chassis.
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I have no idea what is in your mind but I can tell you one thing, you make no sense at all, well, hold on, you make sense only to your self because you make no sense to the rest of the people.
What are you talking about the chassi not supporting 200mph? what is that about the chassi falling apart? If you want to dig into this you have to look at other real physics and aerodynamic laws like:
Power(weight is directly related)
gear ratios
tires capable of suppoting centrifugal force (Speed rating)
Aerodynamics/drag coeficient
The chassi has little to do except the shape of the car which can slow down the car and the size of the tires which also can create more fiction.
I have never seen any car in my life "falling apart because of the chassi". The only possible way of falling appart is a car like the ones on Daytona which are made of sheetmetal put together with rivets.
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According to this http://www.fastestlaps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=699
The C63 has a drag Co-efficient of .32 and a frontal area of 2.18m^2
Also at 200km/h the front end has 35kg of lift and the rear has 42kg of lift.
Mercedes C 63 AMG
(A): 2.18 m²
(cd): 0.32
(cd × A): 0.69
at 200km/h
lift front 35kg
lift rear 42kg
The C63 has a drag Co-efficient of .32 and a frontal area of 2.18m^2
Also at 200km/h the front end has 35kg of lift and the rear has 42kg of lift.
Mercedes C 63 AMG
(A): 2.18 m²
(cd): 0.32
(cd × A): 0.69
at 200km/h
lift front 35kg
lift rear 42kg
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I have the kleeman k2 guys and I hit 305kmh and just took my foot off wa a bit scary considering me after coming out a very bad accident at 260kmh!! I felt the car still
had quiet a bit more to go felt like I could reach 320kmh easily!!
had quiet a bit more to go felt like I could reach 320kmh easily!!
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Did the car feel in any way unstable at that speed?
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I Actually was waiting for some1 to ask me that!! Yeah it felt like there was wind hitting it from the left and right it's weird kuz I really duno how to explain it properly but felt like it was goin left and right that speed!! I think we probably need a wing to fix that like a big *** one like u find on the black series!!