mrtesting

So my car decided to out of no where begin rocking back and forth.. the Engine began shaking erratically, and the car would barely move! The mufflers began spitting water like substance.. I swear if this was a human, I'd be pretty sure she was poisoned!

I called Roadside Assistance and they put her on a flat bed, I sat in the truck with the tow dude, we dropped the car off at the dealership, and thanks to Canada Day, I have to wait till thursday to have someone look at my car! Ahhhh.. has anyone else experience this? This is so out of blue!

A bit scared, I have to say. What is the general census? What do we think is the issue?

QuadBenz

Did you recently gas up or did someone have access to the car? Sounds like bad fuel to me... My car had the same symptoms.

KEMA

Excessive exhaust smoke? If yes what color? Thick white or blueish?

My CLS63 recently blew its injectors and the symptoms were more or less the same. My exhaust smoke was thick white resulting from the injectors shooting too much gas and drowning the engine. The mechanic later told me that blueish smoke would have been an indication of bad quality fuel.

Good luck with the diagnosis and speedy recovery of your car (baby)

Ken

Quadcammer

blue smoke is oil burning not bad fuel. white smoke would indicate excessive water or coolant in the combustion chamber

mrtesting

Yes this problem happened about 10 or 15 minutes after I put gas in the car. But I always go to the same gas station where they have 94 Octane gas. I have been gassing up at Sunoco for a very long time and have never had this issue.

mrtesting

No smoke was coming out of the exhaust or the engine bay.. water like substances were coming out however. It is as though one side of the engine is being killed to work those pistons up and down.. Thank you so much for the help though!

Quicktwinturbo

You prolly had bad gas from the station..

mrtesting

What defines bad gas?

arctichaze

^^ lower octane, mixed with diesel, mixed with water

mrtesting

If that is the case.. what are my options in terms of dealing with the gas station/company? do we have any rights as consumers?

SebringSilver

Wow, sorry to hear about your car trouble. I think the first thing you'll have to do is to verify that the cause of the problem is indeed due to some kind of improper mixture of fuel with other liquids such as water or diesel fuel.

If your car was affected because you filled up at a certain pump from a certain Sunoco gas station, you certainly won't be the only one to have suffered from this problem. I'm sure that if your service department can verify that the cause of the problem is indeed an improper mixture of gasoline and other liquids, then you won't be the only one paying a visit to that gas station with a (major) complaint.

Good luck with the repairs and let us know what happens.

QuadBenz

If you're the only one complaining to the gas station about this, nothing. If there's a lot of other unhappy customers complaining then the gas station will take care of it. In my case, I was the only one, so I had to pay out of pocket to get the car fixed. I'll go dig up my paperwork so I can tell you what had to be replaced.

QuadBenz

Basically, my options were that I had to have them replace everything or they could drain the fuel system and add fresh gas but then my warranty would be voided (which sounds like total BS to me even to this day, but anyways..) so I picked the other option. Here's a summary of the issue as on dealer's paperwork: "WATER IN FUEL TANK. FOUND WATER CONTAMINATION IN FUEL SYSTEM. CORRECTION WAS TO DRAIN GAS, REMOVE AND REPLACE FUEL PUMP AND FILTER WITH INTEGRATED PRESSURE REGULATOR. REFUEL GAS TANK."
So the cause was "WATER CONTAMINATION IN FUEL SYSTEM."
Here's what else it says: "FOUND CRANK NO START. CHECK AND FOUND TO HAVE SPARK, CHECK COMPRESSION, FOUND TO BE OK. CHECK FUEL PRESSURE, FOUND PRESSURE TO BE OK."
For repairs: (btw, don't use these part numbers) I see "171-470-06-90 VALVE which was $96.30 and also "221-470-59-94 FUEL PUMP which was $395.90. Labor was $1500 :stomp: and they charged $235 to have the car towed in. Total with tax came out to $2339.81. I hope your dealer doesn't rape you as badly as they did me.

lyotomachida

Wtf!! That's BS, why can't you sue the dealership?

I stopped getting receipts from gas stations a while back but now I will start saving them.

MB_Forever

Although the bad gas suggestion does make sense, the fact that you've been using that same station for many years and never had any problems make it very suspicious I'm very interested on what the diagnosis reveals....

Jae Duk

Yea if the dealers claim that the problem was due in fact to the gas make sure you don't throw the reciept away if you got one and hopefully you can win some money back. Good luck with your car.

QuadBenz

Sue the dealer for what?

I did have the receipt and believe me, I did go after the gas station but unfortunately, I was the only one with the complaint and I too was going to that station for a while, so it wasn't just a random location. Either way, this was at least over a year ago. Not much to do now.

lyotomachida

I meant sue the gas station.


That's retarded, I would never stop if I got bad gas in my car from some gas station and messed up my car.

QuadBenz

If damages were worse, I wouldn't have either, but the car is fine (now at least). It was basically just the fuel pump. If it had somehow damaged the engine...

mrtesting

Well first of all, I have to thank all of you! You guys are amazing and awesome help all the time! Gotta love the people on this forum!

So I just picked up the car and this is what the Diagnosis said:

"INTAKE SOLNIOD RIGHT BANK INOP/STICKING HOOKED UP TESTER FOUND FAULT CODES 0629/0633/0641/0645/1207/0640/0653 MISFIRE FAULTS AND RIGHT INTAKE CAM SENSOR SOLNOID DIAGNOSED AND PREFORMED CLEARING OF FAULTS RESTARTED ENGINE FOUND ONLY FAULT REOCCURRED 1207 INTAKE CAM SOLNIOD RIGHT BANK PERFORM FUNCTION TEST NO RESPONSE DETERMINE SOLNIOD INTERNAL PRESSURE FAILURE REPLACED RIGHT INTAKE SOLNIOD AND CLEARED FAULTS PREFORMED FUNCTION TEST OPERATION OK TEST DROVE AND RECHECKED NO FAULTS OK"

There are a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes on this piece of paper, and I corrected as much as I could. As for the issue, based on what fixed the problem, I am going to assume it wasn't the fuel. I just cannot understand why the Solenoid Valve would get stuck out of no where!!?!

Anyone else experience the same issue?

SebringSilver

I've had coil packs that failed on the Audi's V8 engine before, and that can cause the misfires and shaking that you experienced with your car. Not sure if the two problems are comparable though.

Glad your car's alright!

bushburninc63

that is why you got warranty for Gisele. Glad it's nothing serious.