ethanol in gas, bad or good for our cars
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incorrect, i have a station right down the road that has a big sign ( our gas contains NO ETHANOL) when i loaded up with the 93 non ethanol my car seemed to run a little better.
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09-03-2009, 11:51 AM
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Yes, running your car on a Non Ethanol blend is much better for gas mileage and heat. Ethanol burns very hot. This is why race cars run on Alcohol, it burns much cooler, though you do need more volume.
In the end, if you have a choice, use the Non Ethanol blend. Its better all around.
In my opinion all cars should run on Alcohol. Its cleaner, burns cooler and overall safer in crashes.
09-03-2009, 01:07 PM
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You can still get 100% gas in the US. Wisconsin, Iowa,Texas,Nebraska and a few other southern states have 100% you just have to look for it.
Yes, running your car on a Non Ethanol blend is much better for gas mileage and heat. Ethanol burns very hot. This is why race cars run on Alcohol, it burns much cooler, though you do need more volume.
In the end, if you have a choice, use the Non Ethanol blend. Its better all around.
In my opinion all cars should run on Alcohol. Its cleaner, burns cooler and overall safer in crashes.
Yes, running your car on a Non Ethanol blend is much better for gas mileage and heat. Ethanol burns very hot. This is why race cars run on Alcohol, it burns much cooler, though you do need more volume.
In the end, if you have a choice, use the Non Ethanol blend. Its better all around.
In my opinion all cars should run on Alcohol. Its cleaner, burns cooler and overall safer in crashes.
CART uses ethanol becuase it gives off NO polutants, except water vapor.
As far as safer in crashes, well lets just say NO, as you CAN"T see it burning. Hence I have seen MANY CART drivers doing the old gorund roll when they are actually on FIRE.
YES, you are better off without Ethanol, as it takes twice as much ethanol, per volume, to equal pure gasoline in SHC, or specific heat contant. Simply put, you need twice as much ethanol as you do gas. Ethanol is a 1-7 ratio to air, while gas is 1-14. Approxiamtely
Ethanol is used as a CHEAP octane boost, as well as a "renewable" source. THANK YOU UNCLE SAM
PS: Those small $1-2 dollar cans of octane booster that are sold, are the MOST expensive cans of alcohol you will ever buy. SAVE YOUR MONEY.
09-03-2009, 02:28 PM
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Not all true my friend:
CART uses ethanol becuase it gives off NO polutants, except water vapor.
As far as safer in crashes, well lets just say NO, as you CAN"T see it burning. Hence I have seen MANY CART drivers doing the old gorund roll when they are actually on FIRE.
YES, you are better off without Ethanol, as it takes twice as much ethanol, per volume, to equal pure gasoline in SHC, or specific heat contant. Simply put, you need twice as much ethanol as you do gas. Ethanol is a 1-7 ratio to air, while gas is 1-14. Approxiamtely
Ethanol is used as a CHEAP octane boost, as well as a "renewable" source. THANK YOU UNCLE SAM
PS: Those small $1-2 dollar cans of octane booster that are sold, are the MOST expensive cans of alcohol you will ever buy. SAVE YOUR MONEY.
CART uses ethanol becuase it gives off NO polutants, except water vapor.
As far as safer in crashes, well lets just say NO, as you CAN"T see it burning. Hence I have seen MANY CART drivers doing the old gorund roll when they are actually on FIRE.
YES, you are better off without Ethanol, as it takes twice as much ethanol, per volume, to equal pure gasoline in SHC, or specific heat contant. Simply put, you need twice as much ethanol as you do gas. Ethanol is a 1-7 ratio to air, while gas is 1-14. Approxiamtely
Ethanol is used as a CHEAP octane boost, as well as a "renewable" source. THANK YOU UNCLE SAM
PS: Those small $1-2 dollar cans of octane booster that are sold, are the MOST expensive cans of alcohol you will ever buy. SAVE YOUR MONEY.
What’s not all true?
Where did I write Ethanol is a pollutant?
Ethanol fuel used in Indy cars has the advantage that it can run at extremely high compression ratios. Ethanol also has a nice safety feature, you can extinguish a ethanol fire with water. Good luck doing that with oily gas.
Ethanol is essentially grain alcohol, they add Gas to it to make it a government legal fuel or you could drink it and get wasted! This also makes you wrong about the safety feature. The gas additive makes the flame burn orange. You must be thinking back in the day when they ran Methanol. That fuel burned completely clear.
Ethanol is less fuel efficient. Burns much hotter than gas. It arguably takes more energy to make it than it creates and it add to global warming almost as much as gas. It it not the holy grail of alternative fuel.
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09-03-2009, 03:19 PM
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You can still get 100% gas in the US. Wisconsin, Iowa,Texas,Nebraska and a few other southern states have 100% you just have to look for it.
Yes, running your car on a Non Ethanol blend is much better for gas mileage and heat. Ethanol burns very hot. This is why race cars run on Alcohol, it burns much cooler, though you do need more volume.
In the end, if you have a choice, use the Non Ethanol blend. Its better all around.
In my opinion all cars should run on Alcohol. Its cleaner, burns cooler and overall safer in crashes.
Yes, running your car on a Non Ethanol blend is much better for gas mileage and heat. Ethanol burns very hot. This is why race cars run on Alcohol, it burns much cooler, though you do need more volume.
In the end, if you have a choice, use the Non Ethanol blend. Its better all around.
In my opinion all cars should run on Alcohol. Its cleaner, burns cooler and overall safer in crashes.
09-03-2009, 03:33 PM
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Based on the additive. You will probably get about 10% more fuel efficiency on pure gas.
09-03-2009, 04:38 PM
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What’s not all true?
Where did I write Ethanol is a pollutant?
Ethanol fuel used in Indy cars has the advantage that it can run at extremely high compression ratios. Ethanol also has a nice safety feature, you can extinguish a ethanol fire with water. Good luck doing that with oily gas.
Ethanol is essentially grain alcohol, they add Gas to it to make it a government legal fuel or you could drink it and get wasted! This also makes you wrong about the safety feature. The gas additive makes the flame burn orange. You must be thinking back in the day when they ran Methanol. That fuel burned completely clear.
Ethanol is less fuel efficient. Burns much hotter than gas. It arguably takes more energy to make it than it creates and it add to global warming almost as much as gas. It it not the holy grail of alternative fuel.
Where did I write Ethanol is a pollutant?
Ethanol fuel used in Indy cars has the advantage that it can run at extremely high compression ratios. Ethanol also has a nice safety feature, you can extinguish a ethanol fire with water. Good luck doing that with oily gas.
Ethanol is essentially grain alcohol, they add Gas to it to make it a government legal fuel or you could drink it and get wasted! This also makes you wrong about the safety feature. The gas additive makes the flame burn orange. You must be thinking back in the day when they ran Methanol. That fuel burned completely clear.
Ethanol is less fuel efficient. Burns much hotter than gas. It arguably takes more energy to make it than it creates and it add to global warming almost as much as gas. It it not the holy grail of alternative fuel.
http://marcoandretti.com/07/car.htm
And a little more
http://www.projectgaia.com/solution.html
By the way, did you notive the BIG statement AKA LESS heat
It is NOT drinkable, sorry
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09-03-2009, 04:44 PM
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http://www.southridgeethanol.com/ethanol_quickfacts.php
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Pure ethanol is drinkable alcohol, the intoxicating kind. If you know how to ferment beer, you know how to make ethanol. So that people won't drink it, a small amount of gasoline is added in at the end of processing to make it unfit to ingest.
Pure ethanol is drinkable alcohol, the intoxicating kind. If you know how to ferment beer, you know how to make ethanol. So that people won't drink it, a small amount of gasoline is added in at the end of processing to make it unfit to ingest.
09-03-2009, 04:48 PM
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09-03-2009, 04:51 PM
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Sure.. just ignore the information on the site of the people who manufacture the Ethanol and spew some garbage. That will convince me.
You are wrong, you have been proven wrong many times in this thread. Just lower your head and walk away now before you embarrass yourself some more.
Last edited by propain; 09-03-2009 at 04:54 PM.
