Theres a lag in shifting using the m Mode
09-16-2009, 01:04 PM
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Its still the best true auto tranny i ve driven. It actually works very well when you put it in Comfort or Sport on the road. Where as stuff like the SMGIII's auto is simply unbearable on the street. New technologies like bmw's DCT or PDK are much better but I don't think any of these are as good when in full auto mode as the C63's tranny. (DCT at least isn't as good in auto not sure about PDK)
Now the 335's ZF tranny is a really good unit that probably shift slightly faster than the tranny in C63 but I don't think it rev match as well and sport mode isn't as good.
As of now theres always a tradeoff between comfort and shiftspeed.(again mabye not the PDK)
Now the 335's ZF tranny is a really good unit that probably shift slightly faster than the tranny in C63 but I don't think it rev match as well and sport mode isn't as good.
As of now theres always a tradeoff between comfort and shiftspeed.(again mabye not the PDK)
09-16-2009, 03:20 PM
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The BMW 335i's ZF21 6AT tranny shifts very fast in just 100ms, but you're right that it doesn't do the throttle blip rev-matching like the C63's tranny does; I never heard my 335i throttle blip anywhere near as pronounced as my C63's downshift throttle blip rev-matching.
The ZF unit is a really good unit though I love it. I think they use it on the Maserati gransport as well. If that tranny can blip like C63's tranny then it would be a better tranny for the car.
Not sure if it can handle the torque though
09-16-2009, 08:58 PM
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I did speak to Cory at Kleemann about the shift lag points.
He says that the Kleemann tune does absolutely nothing to change or alter this. What others have written about the transmission feel has nothing to do with the shift points having been changed. Perhaps it is just that extra power from the tune that eludes to that feeling.
He says that the Kleemann tune does absolutely nothing to change or alter this. What others have written about the transmission feel has nothing to do with the shift points having been changed. Perhaps it is just that extra power from the tune that eludes to that feeling.
09-16-2009, 10:56 PM
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09-17-2009, 07:41 PM
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09-17-2009, 11:39 PM
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I have yet to see REAL results of that "MHP TCU tuning". As far as i'm concerned and according to reputable companies such as Kleemann and ReNNTech, "TCU" tuning is nearly or impossible on this car.... Take note that the TCU TUNING thing comes from a company that advertises V3 TCU/ECU tuning yet some of their customers dyno 410WHP for a $5000 dollar tune
. Only one person "that i've seen" has achieved what MHP advertises with their mighty tune and currently holds the fastest 1/4 mile time and that is Dad's C63. Yet, there is still 0 evidence of an actual change in shifting points or shifting lag with this so-called TCU tuning from MHP.
. Only one person "that i've seen" has achieved what MHP advertises with their mighty tune and currently holds the fastest 1/4 mile time and that is Dad's C63. Yet, there is still 0 evidence of an actual change in shifting points or shifting lag with this so-called TCU tuning from MHP.
09-18-2009, 03:21 AM
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