MB_Forever

That's what I've been calling for in the past 5 years. We need an AMG button that would allow the car to output maximum performance. This would include fastest shift times, fastest throttle response, best suspension/differential settings, etc....

nickia

no wonder I used to hit the limiter a lot because I press the pedal at almost redline

AlexCim

I completely understand the concept of a car being different every time. I know air temp/pressure, humidity etc all play a role, BUT, i'm happy to accept differences in performance based on natural factors.

I am not happy to accept performance differences based on electronics "thinking" they know better than me. I mean, adaptive gearbox settings? WHY? Just because I drive like a ***** for a week, doesn't mean I want a laggy *** gearbox when I pull up next to that special something and want to give it a squirt. I think adjustable things should be like suspension. Super soft, soft, medium, hard, rock hard. Not "S" which can mean that depending on your driving over a week, it goes anywhere between soft and rock hard...

Look, I am living with it, don't misunderstand me, I am keeping the car, it's just sad that this car could be SO much more fun. Like sure, its comfy, its fast, but it just doesn't wow me....and it definitely could! I have more fun driving a 70's Ford Escort with a 5 speed on the floor and a 2L turbo motor. At least in that I know that the car is always putting in 100%.

Dr_jitsu

If you want a crisp paddle shifting car, buy a true manual dual clutch like those that come in the GTR or the 997TT PDK if you have the money.

Mercedes makes the best automatic transmission around, buying one and expecting good performance in manual mode is simply foolish.

FBTO

I have to say my ISF shifted way better than my C63. BTW, has anyone driven the 2010 E63 with the MCT? how does that shift??

bli8

I have the same issue with the Tiptronic transmission of my Porsche Turbo (the same 5 speed auto transmission as in the SL), most of the time it shifts lazy and would only hold the gear when I'm hammering the car. The C63 is similar to the Turbo's but actually still shifts more aggressive than the Turbo. These transmission are too smart for their own good. I had an Mitsu EvO X that had just three very simple and non adaptive shift modes - normal, sport, and sport+ which I found to be all the intelligence I need. Sport is perfect for spirited driving while sport+ would not go below 4500 RPM in any gear (track only).
In the Porsche world there are tuners out there that would charge $1000 to reprogram the TCU but I just can't justify spending that much dough. Now I do have an idea, what if someone can simply disable the less aggressive shift logic maps in S??? Let's say the TCU has 10 maps in S, just give me the more aggressive 3 or 4 maps and I'll be happy. So is anyone out there that can do this for say $500?

jafores

I drove a SL63 yesterday and Man I would give almost anything to have this tranny put in my C63

Shifts feel more sure footed and faster but its not as jolting as the M5's

Exacc

The eve x is a true double clutch system though, so it's not comparable to the auto tranny of the C63, but yeah I can't see why they can't just make an auto tranny operate the same way.

MB_Forever

We're not saying get rid of the adaptations and automatic adjustments the car is trying to make. In fact, most people actually love the adaptations especially in comfort mode or in more relaxed driving conditions. However, all we are asking for is a button that would temporarily provide settings for maximum performance. And when that button is not selected, everything goes back to normal. It's like having the best of both worlds.

SebringSilver

I hear ya.

NickZag

I hate how everyone gripes about this. It's an automatic with a torque converter, not a manual with dual clutches and yet it's still faster a lot of them. I've never had any problems with the speed of the shifts on the tracks I've gone to, and to be honest the only time I even use M is to put down rubber or listen to the exhaust note. There are only a very small handful of people that are going to get a faster lap time switching they're car from Sport to Manual and believe me, even with the decent amount of track experience that I have, I'm not one of those people.

DutchC63

i was on the fence for a long time before choosing the C63 over the new M3 and drove them back to back several times. coming from an 02 M3 6sp manual i had my reservations but i dont regret the move. the MB transmission is not perfect. the smarts that are included in this transmission which supposedly adapts to and learns your driving habits, well , not sure how this works because call me multi personality but i have moments i get in the car and want to relax and put it C and suddenly my MAD personality kicks in and i put it in S and a floor it and it is rather lazy to shift down and other moments it holds its gears long . no computer can try to follow my brain so indeed the only solution is buttons. so i stop the car , put it in M, turn off the the ESP and let me tell you, in my car with the Eurocharge tune it shifts very fast, not as fast as the DSC's of the world but pretty darn close, the only part that i dont understand is that it only shifts very fast while accelerating or down shifting, as soon I you decide that I am not in a rush anymore , despite the M mode, the shifting continues at a slower pace. this latter unintended move from Jekyl crazy by choice fast to Hyde lazy again i could definitely do away with. when i choose M it needs to shift fast, no matter my driving style slow or fast.
my 2C

bli8

Exactly, I wanted the shift logic of the EVO X to be in our C63. And it's okay to me if the C shifts slower than the EVO X's twin clutch, and in exchange the transition from D to R and roll out is still smoother and faster (yes sometimes I had to wait a second or two before the car would go into reverse in the EVO) with the C's torque converter auto trans.