Alternatives to PZeros
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axe muderer with headlights
)Any experience with the Continental ContiSportContact 3? Those come standard on the 2010 M3 if PS2 is not available.
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2009 C63 with Eurocharged tune and charcoal delete
I just put on Sumitomo HTRZIIIs and they feel pretty good. Anybody got any firsthand experience with these in terms of performance and wear??? I don't track, just mildly aggressive street driving. I do 2K miles per month and was looking for something cheaper and longer lasting than the Pirellis since it appears I will changing rear tires rather often.
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And I do understand that not everyone goes to the track. I just rate my tires by the track, and of course by how long they last.
Sorry, I have no first hand knowledge of the conti's. Check out the W211 section as someone there posted about them, just can't remeber who.
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I just put some Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics to replace my rear tires at 8000 miles. I put on 265/35/18 and they work fine. I honestly can't tell any difference over the stock Pirellis; however, my car is more a daily driver than anything else.
For those considering the GS-D3's, what size are you looking at? I can't find them in 255 or 265/35/18.
For those considering the GS-D3's, what size are you looking at? I can't find them in 255 or 265/35/18.
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They are FANTASTIC my fiend
They dropped my lap time at Beaverun by almost 2 seconds
ALMOST as good as a R type tire, however they do wear quick, aka 140 treadware.
As the old saying goes NO FREE LUNCH.
They are okay in the rain, however the GS-D3 is without question a better rain tire.
They dropped my lap time at Beaverun by almost 2 seconds
ALMOST as good as a R type tire, however they do wear quick, aka 140 treadware.
As the old saying goes NO FREE LUNCH.
They are okay in the rain, however the GS-D3 is without question a better rain tire.
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Does it make the ride stiffer than with the PZeros? I find my ride too stiff already for city driving so perhaps I should not go with the RE050.
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2014 Lotus Evora S
I found this article (June 2009) comparing the PZeros to others. A close call...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=120
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=120
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I found this article (June 2009) comparing the PZeros to others. A close call...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=120
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=120
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Kinda strange how they rate the Perrelli P zero as 4th???? If read through you'll see excellent where most needed, I don't think confort should be on top for this kind of a car unless you use it as a DD.
What We Liked: Excellent traction in both dry and wet conditions
(On a Scale of 1 to 10)
What We'd Improve: A moderate reduction in tread pattern noise
Ride Comfort6.59
Conclusion: Excellent dry and wet performance, but sacrifices some road comfort
Noise Comfort6.59
Latest Test Rank: 4th
Dry Track8.36
Previous Test Rank: 1st (August ‘07)
Wet Track7.71
Overall7.45
What We Liked: Excellent traction in both dry and wet conditions
(On a Scale of 1 to 10)
What We'd Improve: A moderate reduction in tread pattern noise
Ride Comfort6.59
Conclusion: Excellent dry and wet performance, but sacrifices some road comfort
Noise Comfort6.59
Latest Test Rank: 4th
Dry Track8.36
Previous Test Rank: 1st (August ‘07)
Wet Track7.71
Overall7.45
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The ride will be as stiff or more so than stock. When I had them swapped out on my STi, they had a hard time getting them off the rim due to the stiff sidewalls.
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The STi has 070 and is a totally different tire than the 050. I had an STi and it was much stiffer than the 050 I have on the 335i. The 335 has 18s and the STi was 17s.
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- if comfort is top criteria, go with the Continental ExtremeContact DW followed by Goodyear F1 Asymmetric
- if handling for day to day driving and steering response are important, go with Michelin PS2 followed by PZero
- if it's all about performance on dry conditions, PZero is best (seems to be different from experience of a few pp on this blog who hate PZero for tracking) followed by a tie between Michelin PS2 and Goodyear F1 Asymmetric
- if behaviour in wet conditions is important, Continental ExtremeContact DW followed by the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric
If this test is correct, PZeros are not bad at all for the thrill this car can give. My other takeaway is that the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric seems to be good at almost everything and the best overall. Finally, the RE050 were nt part of this test and could have change the picking order.
Would be interesting to compare these conclusions to real life experience of others.
