C63 EXHAUST & TUNE DEVLOPEMENT = 12sec pass

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Aug 23, 2010 | 09:14 AM
  #76  



Quote: Thanks Ben,

We could have done alittle better though the vehicle struck some trouble during the event.The transmission was nuetralising during the drag strip burnout and motorkana event.By turning the igntion of & retstarting the car,you would get drive again.After spending some time on it,we spoke to mercedes to find there was an issue with some c63 accelorator pedal assemblys.Its booked in to have this issue rectified,then we go back to the track again to better the 11.8 run.Your car looked great as usual Ben,thats some fine machine !!!


regards sonny
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Aug 23, 2010 | 09:26 AM
  #77  
All these people saw Sonny run an 11.8 yet no one has any proof!!!
I really couldn't care less if your HSV 10 tonne Coupe ran a 9second pass!!!!
This a Mercedes forum and a C63 section and we are in the process of confirming who has the fastest C63 in Australia!!!
That looks to be marlooamg with a 11.6 once he post his video up!
Enough of this LS1 HSV talk!! Lets stay on topic...

Quote: This C63 ran back to back 11.8's at a private track day that I organised at Western Sydney International Dragway ... I saw the runs!

If it really matters that much to you I'll be able to get a log of every run on the day, I'm sure Sonny has the slip to back it up anyway. Sonny has worked on my cars for years now, he got a 2.1 tonne AWD HSV Coupe 4 (AWD Monaro) that I owned to run a 10.9 in FULL STREET TRIM (Falken FK-452 tyres at 38psi) ... he is definitely not full of crap.

Sonny ... should have my C63 within the next 2 weeks, I'll come for a run to say hi when I get it.

cheers mate,

Nick
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Aug 23, 2010 | 05:42 PM
  #78  
I considered the MHP tune before i went the Brabus route but i got put off by all the considerable volume of extremely negative commentary about Andy's customer service re missed deadlines and failure to do work or send back ECUs etc etc. from my ineteraction with him he was certainly quick to respond with helpful answers to email enquiries but i though if anything went wrong, being in Australia vs him in US i would be screwed. MHP certainly seemed to give best result on the incremental hp/$ equation

Out of intereest, what customer experience did other Australians who bought the product experience?? Any comments?
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Aug 23, 2010 | 05:47 PM
  #79  
Quote: Thanks Ben,

We could have done alittle better though the vehicle struck some trouble during the event.The transmission was nuetralising during the drag strip burnout and motorkana event.By turning the igntion of & retstarting the car,you would get drive again.After spending some time on it,we spoke to mercedes to find there was an issue with some c63 accelorator pedal assemblys.Its booked in to have this issue rectified,then we go back to the track again to better the 11.8 run.Your car looked great as usual Ben,thats some fine machine !!!


regards sonny
Thanks Sonny, been a long road to get the car looking the way i like it thats for sure!

"transmission neutralising" do you mean the car went into limp mode. ie couldnt get over 1000rpm/ 30kmhr kind of thing?
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Aug 24, 2010 | 02:11 AM
  #80  
Will check it out! Had them on the top of my list!!


Quote: They make good stuff. Andy's got a sale going on according to my friend who just got headers and a v3 tune. Give him a call.
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Aug 24, 2010 | 02:12 AM
  #81  
By the way Dads C63!! Your car is insane, love the carbon roof!
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Aug 24, 2010 | 03:20 AM
  #82  
Looking at your times apmitchell, congrats. You are going really fast. I wonder if being on the west coast makes a difference (altitude, humidity etc etc). Stock your beast went 12.4 @ 115mph, my car went 12.6 @ 112mph. Best time tuned so far for me is 12.2 @ 116mph, you 11.6 @ 120mph (i believe you where on drag radials, i was on toyo r888s). It seems you have blitzed every one. I just got my exhaust fitted, going track tomorrow night on my normal st tyres but in a fort night i will be going with mt drag radials and i will have my tune done by then hopefully. If i can go 11.6 @ 120mph i will be cheering.

h.
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Aug 24, 2010 | 04:30 AM
  #83  
Sorry Mate,
I think you have the wrong person! I haven't run any times!


Quote: Looking at your times apmitchell, congrats. You are going really fast. I wonder if being on the west coast makes a difference (altitude, humidity etc etc). Stock your beast went 12.4 @ 115mph, my car went 12.6 @ 112mph. Best time tuned so far for me is 12.2 @ 116mph, you 11.6 @ 120mph (i believe you where on drag radials, i was on toyo r888s). It seems you have blitzed every one. I just got my exhaust fitted, going track tomorrow night on my normal st tyres but in a fort night i will be going with mt drag radials and i will have my tune done by then hopefully. If i can go 11.6 @ 120mph i will be cheering.

h.
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Aug 25, 2010 | 08:02 AM
  #84  
I think with the right tune & weather our cars can do 11.6's @ 120mph on MT's Drags.
Some people may not agree but look at my sig. I think if I had some more time I could have done a tad better. Of course the driver has a lot to do with it.
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Aug 25, 2010 | 09:48 AM
  #85  
Was at wsid tonight and saw a black C63 run 11.9 at 120mph and this crazy Black Series CLK63 run a 11.125 at 128mph on NOS!!! It was insane and looked so hot!
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Aug 25, 2010 | 09:53 AM
  #86  
Quote: I think with the right tune & weather our cars can do 11.6's @ 120mph on MT's Drags.
Some people may not agree but look at my sig. I think if I had some more time I could have done a tad better. Of course the driver has a lot to do with it.
Mate awesome run! It's true so many things come into play and a 11.6 can be done on a prefect run!!
It would be good to see Sonny show us some proof of his 11.8 pass!!
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Aug 26, 2010 | 05:41 AM
  #87  
no i was on mickey thompsan 18n inch et radials i use on my ve maloo ute as 18 inch is the smallest wheel you can use because of the brakes ,i know weather and air temp makes a difference but sydney and perth are not to different,am tryin to get full exhaust on my car soon to beat the usa record of 11.2.
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Aug 26, 2010 | 05:43 AM
  #88  
i also have a top speed run on video but due to the boys in blue im a bit scared to post it on u tube but i can say this you can take a c63 nearly off the clock
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Aug 26, 2010 | 05:56 AM
  #89  
our drag season starts in three weeks in western australia please be patient with me i will post the runs with you tube links as soon as i can ,in the mean time im in the process of doing dyno run vids that i will post please be patient with me im new to this
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Aug 26, 2010 | 07:46 AM
  #90  
Quote: no i was on mickey thompsan 18n inch et radials i use on my ve maloo ute as 18 inch is the smallest wheel you can use because of the brakes ,i know weather and air temp makes a difference but sydney and perth are not to different,am tryin to get full exhaust on my car soon to beat the usa record of 11.2.
Good Morning,
You can get 17" wheels on the rear from Forgeline. I have a pair.
The way you are running you will get an 11.2 in good weather when all the mods are done. Good luck!!
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Aug 26, 2010 | 08:22 AM
  #91  
Quote: Hi there guys,

I just jioned up on this forum as i have just purchased my first mercedes c180 1999 model,eventually i will work my way upto a c32 or c55 ,i have found the c180 real sluggish,is there any mods that can increase power levels and perhaps sharpen shift points ?

regards sonny
Quote: Oki Guys,

Since i never got any answers here,i took some time and did some testing,i bolted a c200 rear exhaust assembly to my c180 and it picked up some power,drives alot easier now and you dont have to accellerate as much now,the increase was amazing,and the fuel economy got slightly better to,it would have to be the best mod so far,i will be looking at doing other mods soon and do a write up as work prgresses.

regards sonny
[QUOTE=sjhugh;4213510]Do you boys know each other?

Laying in wait for 2 years before posting then let fly with something like that without anything to back up your claim. Where's your credibility?

Why not post the same up on LS1 where there are a lot of fellows who’ve had first hand experience with Sonny’s work and do the decent thing and out yourself while you’re at it. Come on, be a man about it.

Hello all, I've been laying in wait too and after reading all this banter, thought i'll throw my 2 cents in........

I think the guys on performance forum will love Sonny's posts above!!!

As to the youtube video of Sonny bagging out other tuners, I have seen it and made a copy of it. Lets say its not very mature of him. There are many tuners out there doing some awesome work and to have tuners making false and misleading videos to promote their tunes is in my book very childish.

The video was pulled down due to legal action taken against the company that posted it on Youtube. Therefore, I will not post it.

The internet is a large place but one can't hide from what one has posted on it. Remember that guys.

Keep it real and lets hope an Aussie can crack a 11.2 down the strip.
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Aug 27, 2010 | 09:41 AM
  #92  
For the genuine guys here,i have scanned the time slips for the the c63 that ran the 11.8,if we can get a better launch & get the 60 time to round 1.6/1.7 we can get the time down even quicker,take note this car ran in full street trim with a full tank of BP 98 & full wieght,We will now be biulding some open pipes for the rear with no rear mufflers and running it down the quarter to see how much quicker it will run with open pipes versus street trim,We are doing this just for test comparisson.


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Aug 27, 2010 | 09:49 AM
  #93  
Quote: Thanks Sonny, been a long road to get the car looking the way i like it thats for sure!

"transmission neutralising" do you mean the car went into limp mode. ie couldnt get over 1000rpm/ 30kmhr kind of thing?

No worries ben,all worth it in the end as its a real neat ride !! Not quite ben,the transmission totally nuetralises,it did it twice with paul morris driving it and on the drag trip with luffy as well,its booked in at mercedes,i will post the tech sheet as theres been quite a few c63's having this issue.


regards sonny
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Aug 27, 2010 | 10:27 AM
  #94  
Good to see some proof there Sonny! Congrats are in order!!
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Aug 27, 2010 | 07:42 PM
  #95  
Quote: Good to see some proof there Sonny! Congrats are in order!!
oh boy! after all the slandering. Credit to you for acknowleding his results though.

Well done Sonny.
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Aug 27, 2010 | 08:09 PM
  #96  
This is a forum yes? Well there is a lot of bs on forums and some times people need a little push to prove there claims!!

Quote: oh boy! after all the slandering. Credit to you for acknowleding his results though.

Well done Sonny.
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Aug 27, 2010 | 09:40 PM
  #97  
Quote: For the genuine guys here,i have scanned the time slips for the the c63 that ran the 11.8,if we can get a better launch & get the 60 time to round 1.6/1.7 we can get the time down even quicker,take note this car ran in full street trim with a full tank of BP 98 & full wieght,We will now be biulding some open pipes for the rear with no rear mufflers and running it down the quarter to see how much quicker it will run with open pipes versus street trim,We are doing this just for test comparisson.


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Congrats on the 11s! What was done to the car? Tune, headers, with or without cats, pulley? One thing I noticed comparing your timeslip data vs other header cars on dragtimes is that your 1/8th mile splits are quite different. Trapping 91-92mph in the 1/8th is on par with what some tune only cars have laid down, same goes for ET in the 7.7 range, some have gone quicker and faster with tuning only. Other header and tune cars are trapping 96-98mph range with ETs around 7.3-7.4 seconds.In order to end up trapping 121 in the 1/4 from 91-92 in the 1/8th you're picking up a considerable amount (more than the other cars on that site if you examine the splits) on the back half of the track. Do you think something is holding you back during the first 1/8th mile? Thanks!
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Aug 27, 2010 | 09:51 PM
  #98  
Quote: oh boy! after all the slandering. Credit to you for acknowleding his results though.

Well done Sonny.
Give the man props, most people on the internet wouldn't do even that lol
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Aug 27, 2010 | 10:31 PM
  #99  
Quote: Give the man props, most people on the internet wouldn't do even that lol
Actually, no props at all...this has become all too typical in any performance-related thread. Trace any similar thread back and you see the same s**t every f'ing time. I stick with what I said earlier, in spades.
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Sep 8, 2010 | 09:51 AM
  #100  
Quote: Congrats on the 11s! What was done to the car? Tune, headers, with or without cats, pulley? One thing I noticed comparing your timeslip data vs other header cars on dragtimes is that your 1/8th mile splits are quite different. Trapping 91-92mph in the 1/8th is on par with what some tune only cars have laid down, same goes for ET in the 7.7 range, some have gone quicker and faster with tuning only. Other header and tune cars are trapping 96-98mph range with ETs around 7.3-7.4 seconds.In order to end up trapping 121 in the 1/4 from 91-92 in the 1/8th you're picking up a considerable amount (more than the other cars on that site if you examine the splits) on the back half of the track. Do you think something is holding you back during the first 1/8th mile? Thanks!
Sorry for the late reply been flat out at work,this c63 has the following mods,

- Long tube headers
- Dual 3inch system
- k&n filters & tune

- On that particular day we had traction issues as the street radials were worn out,we will take it back out there soon,with new ones and make some time up.

regards sonny
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