C63 AMG (W204) 2008 - 2015
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Burning Oil

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 03-23-2010, 01:32 PM
  #26  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Merc63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,562
Received 42 Likes on 36 Posts
C63 AMG
I have had to only add oil twice in 25000km. I drive the **** out of it every day since day 1.

Any high performance engine is going to consume oil.
Old 03-23-2010, 01:33 PM
  #27  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BerBer63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,257
Received 10 Likes on 7 Posts
2009 C63
Mine stopped burning oil at a noticeable rate by 10-12k miles.
Old 03-23-2010, 07:46 PM
  #28  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jons95c36amg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Desert
Posts: 3,443
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
Update on oil usage after 2k miles. Oil level on the dipstick is at the same full line. Currently have almost 14k miles.
Old 03-30-2010, 12:57 AM
  #29  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
C63newdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 1,699
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
C63 AMG
I have never changed my oil since I purchased the car, I drove spirited at least 25% of the time and right around 6000 miles I started getting a message saying"please check engine oil level on your next refuel" or something like that.

I added one quart of mobil one and my car now has 6700miles. I hope I don't have to refill until I do my first oil change at 10,000 miles.
Old 03-30-2010, 08:36 AM
  #30  
Newbie
 
PHCMA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
s550
I know that BMW stopped putting the steel cylinder inserts into the Al block. They use a plasma coating instead. Does MB still use steel sleeves on their blocks?
Old 03-30-2010, 11:08 AM
  #31  
Super Member
 
benyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 811
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
'10 F150 FX4 SCrew. '14 S212S
Originally Posted by PHCMA
I know that BMW stopped putting the steel cylinder inserts into the Al block. They use a plasma coating instead. Does MB still use steel sleeves on their blocks?
They use a plasma coating on the 63 motors. I don't know about the rest.
Old 04-01-2010, 02:34 AM
  #32  
Member
 
Multispeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
C63
Originally Posted by kapikog
German engines are historically known to have 'rougher' cross-hatching in the cylinder bores, which results in a longer break-in/ring bedding period and therefore more oil consumption (1L/1000km is not unusual).

Have you ever noticed that mags that do the long-term tests (with before & after performance tests) show a noticeable improvement in accel. & sometimes even top speed, with German cars; especially as opposed to the Jap-traps, which often show reduced performance over time?
Well, since the new "twin wire arc spray" cylinder coating in our engines was said to be used because it is a "harder, more durable" cylinder lining, I would think that would also mean it would take longer to bed-in. Anybody around here with engine machining experience have any idea or info on this TWAS coating? Other than doing leakdown tests I suppose just watching oil consumption is the easiest. I would love to see the leak down numbers telling us what kind of ring seal were getting.
Perhaps one of the guys on the forum with a shop. out of curiosity might take the time to do this on a few cars.
BTW, remember that Mobil 1 is not the best or lowest volatility oil out there.
30 years using and selling Ams/oil (and other synthetics), I have always seen less oil consumption with AMS/oil than with Mobil 1.
Using a better oil is one easy way to lower oil consumption...
Old 04-09-2010, 03:38 AM
  #33  
Newbie
 
PHCMA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
s550
""twin wire arc spray" cylinder coating in our engines was said to be used because it is a "harder, more durable" cylinder lining"

i.e. cheaper. Remember Nikasil the BMW failure coating of cylinders.
Old 04-12-2010, 12:33 AM
  #34  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
C63newdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 1,699
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
C63 AMG
Originally Posted by kapikog
German engines are historically known to have 'rougher' cross-hatching in the cylinder bores, which results in a longer break-in/ring bedding period and therefore more oil consumption (1L/1000km is not unusual).

Have you ever noticed that mags that do the long-term tests (with before & after performance tests) show a noticeable improvement in accel. & sometimes even top speed, with German cars; especially as opposed to the Jap-traps, which often show reduced performance over time?
Not true at all. I observed the before and after on the car magazines but it is aplicable to all the cars(japanese, European, americans).

I am a car magazine collector since 1983-84 and I know exactly what you are talking about but I insist and I can prove you that the before and after long term reviews pretty much always shows better acceleration numbers in all cars.

Look at the Car and driver magazine from April 2010 (I have one on hand), go exactly to page 107 and you will see :

2008 Mitusbishi Evolution MR

new 5.3 sec 0-60 with 40000 miles 4.9 sec 0-60mph
new 13.9@100 mph on the 1/4 mile with 40000 miles does in 13.5@101mph

Also, you mentioned that german cars consume more oil when new. I purchased 3 brand new German cars in the last 2.5 years(07 BMW 335i, 07 VW Jetta GLI and the 09 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG) and I haven't had problem with adding oil. I just added one quart of oil to my C63 at 6000 miles but because it is still the original oil that came with it.

Last edited by C63newdude; 04-12-2010 at 12:39 AM.
Old 04-12-2010, 12:38 AM
  #35  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
C63newdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 1,699
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
C63 AMG
Originally Posted by RNS-11Z
My dealer asked me about burning oil, i have 16000kms, and i have never had a drop missing. How ever i have changed my oil at the following intervals:
1000kms
6000kms
11000kms
16000kms
never oil missing and has always been crystal clear. Very happy with it. I have also had my gearbox and diff oil changed twice, first time at 6000kms and the second time at 16000kms. At 20000kms i will do the spark plugs.


h.

You are changing the oil too often my friend. It is good that you want to keep it clean but you are overkilling it, this is full shytethic oil that we are talking about. The last few perfromance new cars that I purchased new (02 Subaru WRX, 05 Evo 8 MR, 06 Evo IX GSR, another 06 Evo IX SE, 07 BMW 335i coupe,07 VW GLI ,08 C6 Z06, 09 C63) they all have the shyntetic oil maintenance from factory and there was never a need to replace the oil that often unless you drive it really hard.
Old 04-12-2010, 12:40 AM
  #36  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
C63newdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 1,699
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
C63 AMG
Originally Posted by wankeldude
I've almost gone through 8 quarts in 10,000km!

Your engine is not working right. You probably have a leak or your valve seals are not good. 8 quarts in 10000km is like 8quarts in 6200 miles, that is ridiculous..
Old 04-12-2010, 12:44 AM
  #37  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
ZephyrAMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Relocated
Posts: 4,418
Received 381 Likes on 237 Posts
2010 Irridium Silver MB C63 AMG Sedan
Originally Posted by Merc63
I have had to only add oil twice in 25000km. I drive the **** out of it every day since day 1.

Any high performance engine is going to consume oil.
+++1. The engine is obviously going to burn off some because of performance caliber. I'll be honest, I changed the oil at about 1,300 miles and ever since reading all this stuff about oil consumption, grabbed 2 quartes and keep them in the trunk just incase. I don't beat it like a red headed step child but I see what it has on short highway stretches...so far so good. Nice job Thomas Griese.

Last edited by ZephyrAMG; 04-12-2010 at 12:47 AM.
Old 04-12-2010, 12:48 AM
  #38  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
ZephyrAMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Relocated
Posts: 4,418
Received 381 Likes on 237 Posts
2010 Irridium Silver MB C63 AMG Sedan
Originally Posted by C63newdude
You are changing the oil too often my friend. It is good that you want to keep it clean but you are overkilling it, this is full shytethic oil that we are talking about. The last few perfromance new cars that I purchased new (02 Subaru WRX, 05 Evo 8 MR, 06 Evo IX GSR, another 06 Evo IX SE, 07 BMW 335i coupe,07 VW GLI ,08 C6 Z06, 09 C63) they all have the shyntetic oil maintenance from factory and there was never a need to replace the oil that often unless you drive it really hard.
I don't know of any cons of frequent changing other than transmission fluids. Why the danger of changing so frequently?
Old 04-12-2010, 10:24 AM
  #39  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Quadcammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Clifton, NJ
Posts: 4,949
Likes: 0
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
96 and 08 911 turbos
Originally Posted by RNS-11Z
My dealer asked me about burning oil, i have 16000kms, and i have never had a drop missing. How ever i have changed my oil at the following intervals:
1000kms
6000kms
11000kms
16000kms
never oil missing and has always been crystal clear. Very happy with it. I have also had my gearbox and diff oil changed twice, first time at 6000kms and the second time at 16000kms. At 20000kms i will do the spark plugs.
h.
If your engine oil is "crystal clear" after 5,000km, I'd be VERY concerned. Oil is supposed to get dirty. I think you may have misspoke.

Originally Posted by c63canada
keep in mind that the engine is close to twice the size of most other car engines. So you can expect more oil consumption from a 6.2 liter engine that a 3.0. allthings considered.
I'd love to hear why you think this is true.
Old 04-15-2010, 12:58 AM
  #40  
Member
 
Multispeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
C63
Originally Posted by C63newdude
Your engine is not working right. You probably have a leak or your valve seals are not good. 8 quarts in 10000km is like 8quarts in 6200 miles, that is ridiculous..

His engine is fine. I went through more than that, a ltr. evey 800km when I first got mine. Now after 28,000km its using less than 1 ltr. every 6,000 km.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Burning Oil



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 AM.