2011 c63 ????? What changes will we see?
04-22-2010, 04:25 PM
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I have money sitting and waiting and can't get answers out of the salespeople nor the internet (at least nothing concrete anyway)
I am not wild about the idea of a Direct Injected engine (especially with my experience with the VW/Audi DI engines...) So I have no idea what to do...
I am not wild about the idea of a Direct Injected engine (especially with my experience with the VW/Audi DI engines...) So I have no idea what to do...
04-22-2010, 04:26 PM
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04-22-2010, 05:10 PM
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w202 AMGs - C36 and C43 (and a tiny few C55s)
w203 AMGs - C32 and C55
AMG has a history of swapping C-AMGs after only a couple/few model years. In the last C chassis, the C32 was only offered for 3 MYs, the C55 for a whopping 2.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if the C63 w/ M156 is the only w204 AMG, it'd be a new precident. w205 AMG probably isn't until 2014-5; it'll be interesting to see what happens, either way.
w203 AMGs - C32 and C55
AMG has a history of swapping C-AMGs after only a couple/few model years. In the last C chassis, the C32 was only offered for 3 MYs, the C55 for a whopping 2.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if the C63 w/ M156 is the only w204 AMG, it'd be a new precident. w205 AMG probably isn't until 2014-5; it'll be interesting to see what happens, either way.
Just my two cents.
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04-22-2010, 06:54 PM
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I'm in the same boat. I've put off my purchase in anticipation of the MY11 and scour the Net each week looking for info.
The lack of information may indicate we're not going to see a change for a while, which kills me.
Rumours so far include, 5.5ltr Bi-Turbo, Direct Injection, stop start technology and Dual clutch transmission. I should stress these are only rumors, who knows what the final product will look like.
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The lack of information may indicate we're not going to see a change for a while, which kills me.
Rumours so far include, 5.5ltr Bi-Turbo, Direct Injection, stop start technology and Dual clutch transmission. I should stress these are only rumors, who knows what the final product will look like.
Dylan
04-22-2010, 11:19 PM
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I don't think they will change it, I went to the dealer yesterday and asked them about the 2011 C63. They said that it will be the same NOT CHANGES 
We are waiting for the 5.5 Bi-turbo
We are waiting for the 5.5 Bi-turbo
04-23-2010, 12:01 AM
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I for one am in full panic mode as this current crate motor is one of the best normally aspirated, the sound like no other and i am worried about what the next rumored motor is going to sound like.....doubt its going to sound like this one, so I am left wondering should I sell my 2008 C63 and get one of the last built 2010 or whenever they decide this information is official, not one car has brought 13 yr old school girl giggles from me as much as this one, looks like the SLS AMG is the only AMG model that is to carry this powerplant over to the next model years to come....oh well, looks like my mid life crisis car is coming at 40yrs old......poor poor wife
04-23-2010, 04:19 AM
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Hey GeeMoneyMan, you mentioned the increase in power and torque, but did the dealer provide a number for the standard power ? (ie the power without the performance package)
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04-23-2010, 04:50 PM
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Anyway, I have the build sheet for the car I ordered, which says + 27 hp / 74 lb-ft, so if that's not what it comes I'll have to think about whether or not I want to buy it.
04-23-2010, 07:56 PM
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^^ to me that sounds like some sort of turbocharged engine simply because thats the kind of gains one would see with an ECU remap....
04-23-2010, 08:43 PM
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The dealer had no idea what the standard hp/tq would be or even what's new for 2011. In fact, I'm the one who told them that the E coupe was actually based on the C class chassis, I think they still don't believe me though.
Anyway, I have the build sheet for the car I ordered, which says + 27 hp / 74 lb-ft, so if that's not what it comes I'll have to think about whether or not I want to buy it.
Anyway, I have the build sheet for the car I ordered, which says + 27 hp / 74 lb-ft, so if that's not what it comes I'll have to think about whether or not I want to buy it.
The 5.5 T (M 157) available in the 2011 S AMG has HP available from 544 to an option of 571. That coincidentially is 27HP. That HP most assuredly will not be available in the C Class. Could your order be somehow messed up with an S class MY2011?
04-24-2010, 06:00 PM
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04-24-2010, 07:39 PM
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My guess is May production is already allotted and that there is no more available, making 2011 the only choice if you want to order a C63. Yes, confirm with a dealer to be sure.
04-25-2010, 02:56 AM
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Based on this info it will be a 5.5 Twin !!!
04-25-2010, 04:49 AM
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This is what my dealership sent me several days ago per email, I really dont see the powerplant change from the C63 to a C55tt for MY2011............
I am back from leave and wanted to touch bases with you!
I am inviting you to stop by for a glass of champagne, a Bitburger or a coffee in my new office located upstairs in the showroom. We can talk about the new information on the MY 2011 Mercedes Benz models!!
ALL ORDERS GOING IN NOW WILL BE FOR A MY 2011.
ORDER NOW!! SO YOU CAN BE ENJOYING YOUR MY 2011 IN JULY 2010!!
CHANGES FOR MY 2011
C Class - We now have LED daytime running lights available! Looks great!
More Standard features
New Premium Package
SLK Class - New: Standard sport bodystyling* - front apron, side skirts, and rear apron
New: Standard darkened headlamp inlays
New: 18" Twin 5-spoke wheel design for SLK350
New: Sport Package strategy with two wheel choices
E Class Cabrio - All new bodystyling! Absolutely fantastic!!
GLK 350 - available as 2 WD or 4 Matic
New: AMG sport package!
E Class - available now as a diesel!! Also with sports package!!
Stationwagon is now available!!
CLS - new bodystyling for MY 2011
MY 2010 - I have stock for immeditate delivery for MY 2010...however stock is limited please contact me for further detials!
TRADE INS - we can assist you with your trade in!!!
WARRANTY ADVANTAGES - 4 year/50,000 mile warranty honored in Germany and or the USA
I am back from leave and wanted to touch bases with you!
I am inviting you to stop by for a glass of champagne, a Bitburger or a coffee in my new office located upstairs in the showroom. We can talk about the new information on the MY 2011 Mercedes Benz models!!
ALL ORDERS GOING IN NOW WILL BE FOR A MY 2011.
ORDER NOW!! SO YOU CAN BE ENJOYING YOUR MY 2011 IN JULY 2010!!
CHANGES FOR MY 2011
C Class - We now have LED daytime running lights available! Looks great!
More Standard features
New Premium Package
SLK Class - New: Standard sport bodystyling* - front apron, side skirts, and rear apron
New: Standard darkened headlamp inlays
New: 18" Twin 5-spoke wheel design for SLK350
New: Sport Package strategy with two wheel choices
E Class Cabrio - All new bodystyling! Absolutely fantastic!!
GLK 350 - available as 2 WD or 4 Matic
New: AMG sport package!
E Class - available now as a diesel!! Also with sports package!!
Stationwagon is now available!!
CLS - new bodystyling for MY 2011
MY 2010 - I have stock for immeditate delivery for MY 2010...however stock is limited please contact me for further detials!
TRADE INS - we can assist you with your trade in!!!
WARRANTY ADVANTAGES - 4 year/50,000 mile warranty honored in Germany and or the USA
04-25-2010, 06:55 AM
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Yes this is my logic. I know the V8 Turbo is coming sometime this year as Merc have announced it, they have also made broad statements regarding Stop Start technology.
I agree it is not as likely to sound as good but until I know exactly what Id be giving up by buying an MY10 I'm going to sit on the fence.
I should also mentioned that a C63 is a large purchase in Australia. After taxed the car is the equivalent of approx $135,000 USD, I think thats about double the cost in the US. The impact of buying a car than is immediately not current on the second hand car market is therefore much greater. Im a patient man. With any luck Merc will do as BMW have just done and only make minor changes and keep the 6.2ltr etc.
Thanks for the advice all the same.
Dylan
I agree it is not as likely to sound as good but until I know exactly what Id be giving up by buying an MY10 I'm going to sit on the fence.
I should also mentioned that a C63 is a large purchase in Australia. After taxed the car is the equivalent of approx $135,000 USD, I think thats about double the cost in the US. The impact of buying a car than is immediately not current on the second hand car market is therefore much greater. Im a patient man. With any luck Merc will do as BMW have just done and only make minor changes and keep the 6.2ltr etc.
Thanks for the advice all the same.
Dylan
04-25-2010, 07:42 AM
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It is alreadu announced guys. The 5.5L V8 Bi-Turbo engine will be available this summer.
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/#/157v8
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/#/157v8
04-25-2010, 08:43 AM
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It is alreadu announced guys. The 5.5L V8 Bi-Turbo engine will be available this summer.
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/#/157v8
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/#/157v8
04-25-2010, 10:44 AM
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A relaible source tells me that starting MArch Prod 2011, there will be a minor facelift to the C class across the range. As stated the range topping C63 will have the 5.5 biturbo with 310-320 kw (yes that low, but torque should be enormous at low rpm), whereas the S models will get a 400 kw version. Again the same dutuned motor for our beloved C63. I am planning to trade mine for a P31 version before they discontinue. This will be the last NA motor AMG will built that has real character. I doubt if a turbo engine can sound as good.
04-25-2010, 05:19 PM
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Again, I'm happy to wait and make an educated decision, I've gone 32 years without a C63, another couple of Months won't hurt.
04-25-2010, 07:15 PM
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No Mate, not over here in Australia. Our dealers cant get enough stock to meet demand, they are still selling 09 Built and complied cars for full retail price (and thats if you can get one). I wish our prices were like yours.
Again, I'm happy to wait and make an educated decision, I've gone 32 years without a C63, another couple of Months won't hurt.
Again, I'm happy to wait and make an educated decision, I've gone 32 years without a C63, another couple of Months won't hurt.
For any new model car/engine it will take maybe one-two years to become really refined.
I actually waited 10 month for my car, since June 2009, thinking 2010 production will have a facelift, but it didnt. But Im really happy with my purchase with this bloody nice NA engine. You can always private sell it your 63, if you believe 55TT is really much more superior before the warranty runs out.
I'm still deciding if I will keep my 63, I will wait n see once 55TT is here, how good it really is. But I have a feeling it wont be in the facelift, and starts in the next generation w205 AMG. So you could be waiting for sometimes.
Hope this helps.
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