C63 Oil Change w/ Mityvac :: Write-up and Photos
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I'm not sure why some think that Mercedes would not know how often to change the oil on their own engines. What's the point of doing it twice as often as they state?
I'm SURE that if MB thought it necessary, they would love to earn 2X more for oil changes.
I'm SURE that if MB thought it necessary, they would love to earn 2X more for oil changes.
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4 to 5k oil change intervals are pretty standard among high performance cars... Nothing really new here.
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Cool tool, definitely gonna have to pick one up thanks for write up.
I run 5k interval on all my cars since I started driving, may be old fasion but after seeing how gunked to hell my used e46 m3 engine was I don't know if I trust manufacturers lengthy intervals. Car was serviced on time solely with BMW, head had to come off for a thorough cleaning. But I'm fairly picky
I run 5k interval on all my cars since I started driving, may be old fasion but after seeing how gunked to hell my used e46 m3 engine was I don't know if I trust manufacturers lengthy intervals. Car was serviced on time solely with BMW, head had to come off for a thorough cleaning. But I'm fairly picky
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Cool tool, definitely gonna have to pick one up thanks for write up.
I run 5k interval on all my cars since I started driving, may be old fasion but after seeing how gunked to hell my used e46 m3 engine was I don't know if I trust manufacturers lengthy intervals. Car was serviced on time solely with BMW, head had to come off for a thorough cleaning. But I'm fairly picky
I run 5k interval on all my cars since I started driving, may be old fasion but after seeing how gunked to hell my used e46 m3 engine was I don't know if I trust manufacturers lengthy intervals. Car was serviced on time solely with BMW, head had to come off for a thorough cleaning. But I'm fairly picky
Is this a scientific way of proving that the oil needed to be changed? No, not at all. But, like riteoff, after seeing the difference in BMW valve trains, my decision was pretty much made up to always stick to 5k- intervals.
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Great write up...
anyone used this on SL or W222 63's?, i'm sure same as others but how about the positioning of the filter? not too familiar, are they under the car or under the hood?, like some of the posts in here?
thnx..
anyone used this on SL or W222 63's?, i'm sure same as others but how about the positioning of the filter? not too familiar, are they under the car or under the hood?, like some of the posts in here?
thnx..
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E46 owners know exactly this ^^ E46's need valve adjustments every 15k miles or so which meant opening up the head. During the early years of the car's life, some on forums would note that their heads were a copper color while others noted that there's were perfectly silver or close to it. At first, no one really knew what caused this difference in head color. After a while though, it was noted that those that changed the oil frequently (5k-) miles, didn't suffer from the discoloration as the oil remained "cleaner".
Is this a scientific way of proving that the oil needed to be changed? No, not at all. But, like riteoff, after seeing the difference in BMW valve trains, my decision was pretty much made up to always stick to 5k- intervals.
Is this a scientific way of proving that the oil needed to be changed? No, not at all. But, like riteoff, after seeing the difference in BMW valve trains, my decision was pretty much made up to always stick to 5k- intervals.
it's your car, so do what you want. i want you to know that i understand that.
but i don't see the logic in trying to justify it to others so they follow your guess.
facts:
MB would certainly benefit from shorter prescribed intervals if they were needed.
used oil analysis from a reputable lab is another way to not guess about when your oil needs to be changed if for some reason you fear that you need to change sooner than what the manufacturer prescribes. as it turns out, in my experiences the factory intervals are actually conservative with today's oil and filter technology. but, the only way to know for sure is to test.
some people say it's cheap insurance to change more often but that is wasteful in more ways than one.
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you're guessing.
it's your car, so do what you want. i want you to know that i understand that.
but i don't see the logic in trying to justify it to others so they follow your guess.
facts:
MB would certainly benefit from shorter prescribed intervals if they were needed.
used oil analysis from a reputable lab is another way to not guess about when your oil needs to be changed if for some reason you fear that you need to change sooner than what the manufacturer prescribes. as it turns out, in my experiences the factory intervals are actually conservative with today's oil and filter technology. but, the only way to know for sure is to test.
some people say it's cheap insurance to change more often but that is wasteful in more ways than one.
it's your car, so do what you want. i want you to know that i understand that.
but i don't see the logic in trying to justify it to others so they follow your guess.
facts:
MB would certainly benefit from shorter prescribed intervals if they were needed.
used oil analysis from a reputable lab is another way to not guess about when your oil needs to be changed if for some reason you fear that you need to change sooner than what the manufacturer prescribes. as it turns out, in my experiences the factory intervals are actually conservative with today's oil and filter technology. but, the only way to know for sure is to test.
some people say it's cheap insurance to change more often but that is wasteful in more ways than one.
I'm just providing my experience, not necessarily trying to sway anyone. Take a look at my post above ^^
"If you feel that 10, 15, or 20k intervals are appropriate, have at it." I really meant that. What difference does it make to me how often some rando on a forum changes there oil. But, I get it. Difference of opinions etc, no biggie and no offense taken.
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finally did my oil with the mityvac using this guide, very easy. though i had a learning curve as the tubes got a little coiled which prevented suction. I sat there 10min wondering what was taking so long, undid the coil and out came the oil.
i was either lower than i thought or didnt suck out enough, pulled out about 7.5qt. dipstick was middle red pre change and its just barely over the top of the upper red tab now.
this was a lot easier than crawling under the car, and the 32mm socket makes the filter a snap
i was either lower than i thought or didnt suck out enough, pulled out about 7.5qt. dipstick was middle red pre change and its just barely over the top of the upper red tab now.
this was a lot easier than crawling under the car, and the 32mm socket makes the filter a snap
Awesome tool!
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just finished changing the oil with the mityvac for the first time earlier. Guide was spot on, aside from the mityvac not sucking the oil properly due to the metal plug being in the open position from the box. Once i bent the plug down it starting sucking the oil quickly. Took out a little more than 7 quarts and approximately 9 quarts to fill it to the top of the dipstick. Used gloves to loosen and tighten the oil filter cap.
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Scooped a Mityvac during xmas season when it was on sale and used it a few weeks ago. Super easy to use and well worth it! Only modification I had to do was snip the end of the larger tube that connects directly to the 'vac. The end of the tube wasn't flat and thus caused air to be sucked in with the oil, which in turn slowed down the suction and required more pumping, more often. Removed about 7 quarts and filled with 9 quarts of Motul 8100 X-cess 5w40. Dipstick measured spot on.
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What's with all you guys running your cars 2 quarts low on oil? 
Generally speaking, you should only be putting back in as much as you're taking out.
Generally speaking, you should only be putting back in as much as you're taking out.
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just finished changing the oil with the mityvac for the first time earlier. Guide was spot on, aside from the mityvac not sucking the oil properly due to the metal plug being in the open position from the box. Once i bent the plug down it starting sucking the oil quickly. Took out a little more than 7 quarts and approximately 9 quarts to fill it to the top of the dipstick. Used gloves to loosen and tighten the oil filter cap.
Scooped a Mityvac during xmas season when it was on sale and used it a few weeks ago. Super easy to use and well worth it! Only modification I had to do was snip the end of the larger tube that connects directly to the 'vac. The end of the tube wasn't flat and thus caused air to be sucked in with the oil, which in turn slowed down the suction and required more pumping, more often. Removed about 7 quarts and filled with 9 quarts of Motul 8100 X-cess 5w40. Dipstick measured spot on.
I brought the oil temp up to 170F first, but it still took what seemed like an hour to fully extract roughly 8 liters/quarts. I had removed the oil cap and filter before I started, but still, was very slow. I pushed the smaller dip tube a few inches deeper into the larger one which seems to speed it up a bit. I did secure the drain plug on the Mityvac before I started but I think I'll cut the end of the larger tube so it's not angled, like Raphman did to see if that helps next time, but I had to pump it about 10 times for every 1-2 quarts extracted over that hour. Seems like a lot.
I then added 8 liters/quarts of new oil, but haven't checked the dipstick yet. Will do so this weekend to see where it measures. But wow, this process was still much easier than my BMWs which are both dipstick-free!
Question: Since I am a first time Mercedes owner, should I reset the service indicator? It currently shows "250 days to Service B39". My car is a CPO and I did get 3 years of maintenance free as part of the deal. Or should I leave it alone and have the service done (assuming it includes oil/filter)?
Thanks!
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Edit** made sure the mityvac was sucking pure air before I stopped extracting, came just a little above 7 quarts when done.
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Question: Since I am a first time Mercedes owner, should I reset the service indicator? It currently shows "250 days to Service B39". My car is a CPO and I did get 3 years of maintenance free as part of the deal. Or should I leave it alone and have the service done (assuming it includes oil/filter)?
Thanks!
Thanks!
But anyway, thats a good question. Assuming the previous owner did the service A at 10k miles, I would just reset it and maybe go in early for the next service. Best bet though is call the service center and ask a technician.
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Sorry guys, old school
Raise the car
Remove the underbody pans
drain main pan-7-8 quarts
drain front cooler rad- 1-1.2quarts
replace new crush washers- 2
Remove filter+ install new filter and gasket
refill with 9.5 quarts
run engine
recheck oil level on oil stick
replace pans
recycle oil oil
5000 km max use
with the used oil it can be placed back into the new oil containers to verify oil use.
guaranteed method
1 hour
Raise the car
Remove the underbody pans
drain main pan-7-8 quarts
drain front cooler rad- 1-1.2quarts
replace new crush washers- 2
Remove filter+ install new filter and gasket
refill with 9.5 quarts
run engine
recheck oil level on oil stick
replace pans
recycle oil oil
5000 km max use
with the used oil it can be placed back into the new oil containers to verify oil use.
guaranteed method
1 hour
