FS: W204 C63 CARBON FIBER 3FINS DIFFUSER $310 SHIPPED ANYWHERE IN MAINLAND US!
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NickZag, say your post and am disappointed as well as ordered one and had hoped that the to be expected smaller flaws in cheaper product would be minor enough to get around. Miami1lt - let us know if you see the same thing just in case this issue Nickzag had was a one-off issue.
Hope the group-buy program on Revozport is still open.
Hope the group-buy program on Revozport is still open.
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NickZag, say your post and am disappointed as well as ordered one and had hoped that the to be expected smaller flaws in cheaper product would be minor enough to get around. Miami1lt - let us know if you see the same thing just in case this issue Nickzag had was a one-off issue.
Hope the group-buy program on Revozport is still open.
Hope the group-buy program on Revozport is still open.
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And yes, the Revozport group buy is still open. I think we're really close to the required 10 piece mark where we can get the 20% off.
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^^^Copy, I'm going to have an installer look at it tomorrow. I'm trying to compare the tabs right now from the pics sent. I'm wondering if you can file down or remove some of the ones that don't fit...they can't ALL be out of line.
if there are some that fit, that and 3M tape and the 2-6 screws MAY be enough. I'm desperate, as not only do I dislike the gray OEM diffuser, but I got some wax on it a while back, and it won't all come off now...drives me crazy everytime I look at my car!
if there are some that fit, that and 3M tape and the 2-6 screws MAY be enough. I'm desperate, as not only do I dislike the gray OEM diffuser, but I got some wax on it a while back, and it won't all come off now...drives me crazy everytime I look at my car!
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^^^Copy, I'm going to have an installer look at it tomorrow. I'm trying to compare the tabs right now from the pics sent. I'm wondering if you can file down or remove some of the ones that don't fit...they can't ALL be out of line.
if there are some that fit, that and 3M tape and the 2-6 screws MAY be enough. I'm desperate, as not only do I dislike the gray OEM diffuser, but I got some wax on it a while back, and it won't all come off now...drives me crazy everytime I look at my car!
if there are some that fit, that and 3M tape and the 2-6 screws MAY be enough. I'm desperate, as not only do I dislike the gray OEM diffuser, but I got some wax on it a while back, and it won't all come off now...drives me crazy everytime I look at my car!
Just an FYI, you should not have to use any 3M tape or screws other than the two at the ends (reuse the stock torx screws--one at each end) and the two in the middle of the diffuser that attaches to the underbody of the car.
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True...i don't really want to rig it to fit...it should come fitting fine (or close). I'm starting to get real tired of all this aftermarket stuff...my ML has been fitted with some horrible running boards too...
Can't wait til my GT PRO Double X's get here tomorrow or Monday...THOSE should fit fine!
Can't wait til my GT PRO Double X's get here tomorrow or Monday...THOSE should fit fine!
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Did anybody even notice the tabs in the pictures Gary posted? They are supposed to have clips on them to hook in...they look like solid pieces of molded plastic...I don't see how they would hook in...I'm going to break the box open now and check...if they are solid molds, that'll be a show-stopper right there.
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Did anybody even notice the tabs in the pictures Gary posted? They are supposed to have clips on them to hook in...they look like solid pieces of molded plastic...I don't see how they would hook in...I'm going to break the box open now and check...if they are solid molds, that'll be a show-stopper right there.
#83
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Yep, just looked...that is exactly what they are...solid molds with just a "tab" looking impression, but not all the way through like the stock diffuser pics.
Doesn't mean they don't line up, but I'm guessing this is going to be more ***-pain than it's worth.
I feel bad for the guy I have install this stuff...I keep bringing him items with no directions (ie. none were included, just 4 screws), and asking him to polish a terd...he has been getting tipped heavily for the work...I think i'll take the DIY instructions...those seemed helpful.
Doesn't mean they don't line up, but I'm guessing this is going to be more ***-pain than it's worth.
I feel bad for the guy I have install this stuff...I keep bringing him items with no directions (ie. none were included, just 4 screws), and asking him to polish a terd...he has been getting tipped heavily for the work...I think i'll take the DIY instructions...those seemed helpful.
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NickZag,
check your PM again.
Anyone has problem w/ the tabs please pm or email me. I will take care of you also. After taking care of the guys who have problem w/ the tabs, I have a new plan![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Stay tuned.
check your PM again.
Anyone has problem w/ the tabs please pm or email me. I will take care of you also. After taking care of the guys who have problem w/ the tabs, I have a new plan
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Stay tuned.
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Yep, just looked...that is exactly what they are...solid molds with just a "tab" looking impression, but not all the way through like the stock diffuser pics.
Doesn't mean they don't line up, but I'm guessing this is going to be more ***-pain than it's worth.
I feel bad for the guy I have install this stuff...I keep bringing him items with no directions (ie. none were included, just 4 screws), and asking him to polish a terd...he has been getting tipped heavily for the work...I think i'll take the DIY instructions...those seemed helpful.
Doesn't mean they don't line up, but I'm guessing this is going to be more ***-pain than it's worth.
I feel bad for the guy I have install this stuff...I keep bringing him items with no directions (ie. none were included, just 4 screws), and asking him to polish a terd...he has been getting tipped heavily for the work...I think i'll take the DIY instructions...those seemed helpful.
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Don't go crazy without me these 2 days, guys. I will be back on Monday!
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^^^That sounds like one of the better business ethics moves I've seen...backing up the product with either paid installation or full refund if returned. Thanks for trying to make this right. Will let you know today via PM how it turns out.
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No, bring it to my bodyshop down the street, they will install it for you and I pay for the labor. hows that? Same thing goes to everyone esle who already bought the diffuser. I am here on MB world to stay, I am backing up my words on taking care of you guys.
Don't go crazy without me these 2 days, guys. I will be back on Monday!
Don't go crazy without me these 2 days, guys. I will be back on Monday!
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All,
I owe Gary a HUGE apology. I just got done installing the diffuser without incident (well, one broken tab, but that was my fault).
Ok, so I took it to my installer, but he was tied up today...asked me to come back first thing Tue morning. Couldn't wait, and decided the removal of the OEM diffuser looked easy and reversable, so decided just to "check".
After it came off, and I aligned the C/F diffuser with the OEM one, PERFECT match on tabs.
So, proceeded to put it on in about 2 minutes (after drilling the holes where the torx screw goes.
Only hiccup was one broken tab (again, probably from me forcing too much),and the hole I drilled didn't line up well, so I just shaved the hole a bit bigger so the torx screw could line up.
I'm still awaiting my wife to return with the 3" bolts/wingnuts that will connect from the C/F diffuser to the support arm behind the bumper...but that is just a formality.
FIT GREAT!!! And looks nice too...I'll post pics this evening...but it was a perfect match.
Thanks, Gary, and sorry to doubt...you have my utmost, sincere, and PUBLIC apologies!
Brad
I owe Gary a HUGE apology. I just got done installing the diffuser without incident (well, one broken tab, but that was my fault).
Ok, so I took it to my installer, but he was tied up today...asked me to come back first thing Tue morning. Couldn't wait, and decided the removal of the OEM diffuser looked easy and reversable, so decided just to "check".
After it came off, and I aligned the C/F diffuser with the OEM one, PERFECT match on tabs.
So, proceeded to put it on in about 2 minutes (after drilling the holes where the torx screw goes.
Only hiccup was one broken tab (again, probably from me forcing too much),and the hole I drilled didn't line up well, so I just shaved the hole a bit bigger so the torx screw could line up.
I'm still awaiting my wife to return with the 3" bolts/wingnuts that will connect from the C/F diffuser to the support arm behind the bumper...but that is just a formality.
FIT GREAT!!! And looks nice too...I'll post pics this evening...but it was a perfect match.
Thanks, Gary, and sorry to doubt...you have my utmost, sincere, and PUBLIC apologies!
Brad
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Ok, pics attached...let me know if you want to see anything else...but as you can see...great fit...and I used wheel shine spray as the "grease", and it worked fine to slide the tabs in and out...not too big, not too small..just right!
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I have limited internet access but I can't help myself and found a way to get back on this thread. Great news!! Please allow me to get to the pms on Monday. Thank you guys!
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These are some closer pictures (and I didn't shrink the file much). If you need more detail, I can email you the 2.9MB 10.2mp pics...but you can see the tiny microfiber abrasions on the surface of my car...hard to get much better res.
Also, notice in the center there is a "questionable" area...it is possible that I could have not pushed it in as far as it will go, but it is secure, and I actually prefer a little lip (I think it is designed that way). Noticed the flaw when putting it on, but it is REALLY hard to see...just like HD on TV, zoomed in 10mp pics from the HD Sony HDR-11 doesn't do any favors.
Anyway, looks good and is staying put nicely...didn't like drilling the hole for the 3" bolt part (make sure to widen the hole BEFORE putting on if required--unless you have it on a lift)...that didn't go really well...would have liked to pull the arms off the OEM diffuser in hind site, but that looked like too much work with the rivots.
Also, notice in the center there is a "questionable" area...it is possible that I could have not pushed it in as far as it will go, but it is secure, and I actually prefer a little lip (I think it is designed that way). Noticed the flaw when putting it on, but it is REALLY hard to see...just like HD on TV, zoomed in 10mp pics from the HD Sony HDR-11 doesn't do any favors.
Anyway, looks good and is staying put nicely...didn't like drilling the hole for the 3" bolt part (make sure to widen the hole BEFORE putting on if required--unless you have it on a lift)...that didn't go really well...would have liked to pull the arms off the OEM diffuser in hind site, but that looked like too much work with the rivots.
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C63 AMG Arctic w/ Stage 1 Tune, DoubleXX pipe, MCD-631X coming soon
Sorry, not trying to hijack this thread, but I am really tired of this China produced crap...
SADLY this stuff comes from the same places unfortunately and marketed as XYZ and ZYX product with the consumer not knowing. I have been at this for over 29 years, and I know the game very well.. just a bit of info why I'm going to rant here is we got a diffuser from a company on this board (which will remain nameless at this point as to not start a war) and it was ABSOLUTE GARBAGE, I have seen guys here say this part from this mfg. was great and awesome, so we bought one for one of our customers, and it was a joke, I was totally embarrassed to show him the part, but after we looked at it together we both agreed that it was a $150.00 part at BEST. If you guys think that this mfg. stuff is good... WOW, maybe if it was going on a 82 Honda Civic with 300k upgrading from an Extreme Dimensions or VIS body kit, but I am used to REAL parts that fit like OEM, that don't need to be pulled on, modified, and jacked with to fit, and tabs being broken off (yes I was told it was a good thing that the diffuser came with all the center tabs BROKEN off, as it would not be close to fitting otherwise WTF?? are you kidding?? what a joke...) Not cut off, not ground off cleanly, but snapped off with pliers, and a nice crack right at the snap off point, the weave of the CF was terrible in terms of how straight the lines were, there were micro bubbles in the resin, defects everywhere, wavy wavy gravy, I could NOT give this to my customer, I refused to take his money for this crap part.
It's time for someone to bring GOOD parts to this market, I refuse to sell this CHINA knock off crap. The time is coming to give consumers proper parts with proper build quality. We looked very hard at this, and the ONLY real way to to build these parts DRY carbon with an investment mold (not cheap) but it's the right way to do it, China will never do it.
No disrespect to the OP, I don't know him, and have nothing against him, I just needed to get this out there.
SADLY this stuff comes from the same places unfortunately and marketed as XYZ and ZYX product with the consumer not knowing. I have been at this for over 29 years, and I know the game very well.. just a bit of info why I'm going to rant here is we got a diffuser from a company on this board (which will remain nameless at this point as to not start a war) and it was ABSOLUTE GARBAGE, I have seen guys here say this part from this mfg. was great and awesome, so we bought one for one of our customers, and it was a joke, I was totally embarrassed to show him the part, but after we looked at it together we both agreed that it was a $150.00 part at BEST. If you guys think that this mfg. stuff is good... WOW, maybe if it was going on a 82 Honda Civic with 300k upgrading from an Extreme Dimensions or VIS body kit, but I am used to REAL parts that fit like OEM, that don't need to be pulled on, modified, and jacked with to fit, and tabs being broken off (yes I was told it was a good thing that the diffuser came with all the center tabs BROKEN off, as it would not be close to fitting otherwise WTF?? are you kidding?? what a joke...) Not cut off, not ground off cleanly, but snapped off with pliers, and a nice crack right at the snap off point, the weave of the CF was terrible in terms of how straight the lines were, there were micro bubbles in the resin, defects everywhere, wavy wavy gravy, I could NOT give this to my customer, I refused to take his money for this crap part.
It's time for someone to bring GOOD parts to this market, I refuse to sell this CHINA knock off crap. The time is coming to give consumers proper parts with proper build quality. We looked very hard at this, and the ONLY real way to to build these parts DRY carbon with an investment mold (not cheap) but it's the right way to do it, China will never do it.
No disrespect to the OP, I don't know him, and have nothing against him, I just needed to get this out there.
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^^Not to flame, Brian...but one good thing about this part is that i got it in the agreed upon time...can't say that about all of the people selling products on here.
As for the quality, it costs the same as the cheap OEM plastic diffuser, and is a hell of a lot better looking. The one broken tab was my fault...and yes, it broke off a little easier than it should have, but after being forced incorrectly by me. As an amature, I tried to force it and didn't follow the procedure of working from one side to the other.
Agree parts coming from China are garbage...China is garbage, and while it is near world SuperPower status, will likely fail before it gets there due to its already dying economy and bad loans.
But I have to admit...I was told 3 days and got it in 3 days...you can say it is worth the wait for good stuff, but I have money sitting out there right now that I could have easily made an extra $100 in the market just this past week...As far as I'm concerned, I've waited for a part long enough that it has cost me $100-200 in interest alone!
As for the quality, it costs the same as the cheap OEM plastic diffuser, and is a hell of a lot better looking. The one broken tab was my fault...and yes, it broke off a little easier than it should have, but after being forced incorrectly by me. As an amature, I tried to force it and didn't follow the procedure of working from one side to the other.
Agree parts coming from China are garbage...China is garbage, and while it is near world SuperPower status, will likely fail before it gets there due to its already dying economy and bad loans.
But I have to admit...I was told 3 days and got it in 3 days...you can say it is worth the wait for good stuff, but I have money sitting out there right now that I could have easily made an extra $100 in the market just this past week...As far as I'm concerned, I've waited for a part long enough that it has cost me $100-200 in interest alone!
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Sorry, not trying to hijack this thread, but I am really tired of this China produced crap...
SADLY this stuff comes from the same places unfortunately and marketed as XYZ and ZYX product with the consumer not knowing. I have been at this for over 29 years, and I know the game very well.. just a bit of info why I'm going to rant here is we got a diffuser from a company on this board (which will remain nameless at this point as to not start a war) and it was ABSOLUTE GARBAGE, I have seen guys here say this part from this mfg. was great and awesome, so we bought one for one of our customers, and it was a joke, I was totally embarrassed to show him the part, but after we looked at it together we both agreed that it was a $150.00 part at BEST. If you guys think that this mfg. stuff is good... WOW, maybe if it was going on a 82 Honda Civic with 300k upgrading from an Extreme Dimensions or VIS body kit, but I am used to REAL parts that fit like OEM, that don't need to be pulled on, modified, and jacked with to fit, and tabs being broken off (yes I was told it was a good thing that the diffuser came with all the center tabs BROKEN off, as it would not be close to fitting otherwise WTF?? are you kidding?? what a joke...) Not cut off, not ground off cleanly, but snapped off with pliers, and a nice crack right at the snap off point, the weave of the CF was terrible in terms of how straight the lines were, there were micro bubbles in the resin, defects everywhere, wavy wavy gravy, I could NOT give this to my customer, I refused to take his money for this crap part.
It's time for someone to bring GOOD parts to this market, I refuse to sell this CHINA knock off crap. The time is coming to give consumers proper parts with proper build quality. We looked very hard at this, and the ONLY real way to to build these parts DRY carbon with an investment mold (not cheap) but it's the right way to do it, China will never do it.
No disrespect to the OP, I don't know him, and have nothing against him, I just needed to get this out there.
SADLY this stuff comes from the same places unfortunately and marketed as XYZ and ZYX product with the consumer not knowing. I have been at this for over 29 years, and I know the game very well.. just a bit of info why I'm going to rant here is we got a diffuser from a company on this board (which will remain nameless at this point as to not start a war) and it was ABSOLUTE GARBAGE, I have seen guys here say this part from this mfg. was great and awesome, so we bought one for one of our customers, and it was a joke, I was totally embarrassed to show him the part, but after we looked at it together we both agreed that it was a $150.00 part at BEST. If you guys think that this mfg. stuff is good... WOW, maybe if it was going on a 82 Honda Civic with 300k upgrading from an Extreme Dimensions or VIS body kit, but I am used to REAL parts that fit like OEM, that don't need to be pulled on, modified, and jacked with to fit, and tabs being broken off (yes I was told it was a good thing that the diffuser came with all the center tabs BROKEN off, as it would not be close to fitting otherwise WTF?? are you kidding?? what a joke...) Not cut off, not ground off cleanly, but snapped off with pliers, and a nice crack right at the snap off point, the weave of the CF was terrible in terms of how straight the lines were, there were micro bubbles in the resin, defects everywhere, wavy wavy gravy, I could NOT give this to my customer, I refused to take his money for this crap part.
It's time for someone to bring GOOD parts to this market, I refuse to sell this CHINA knock off crap. The time is coming to give consumers proper parts with proper build quality. We looked very hard at this, and the ONLY real way to to build these parts DRY carbon with an investment mold (not cheap) but it's the right way to do it, China will never do it.
No disrespect to the OP, I don't know him, and have nothing against him, I just needed to get this out there.
Amen!