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Old 04-07-2010, 05:06 PM
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The combination of the low torque and Quattro all wheel drive are a disadvantage....

I've walked on a couple of RS4's and they are dogs out of the hole

But the styling on the A5 is awesome....great body lines and great stance...

Here's a pic of my buddies A5 lowered on 20" RS4 wheels...great stance....






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Torque numbers very low. You've got to have close to as much torque as you do horsepower to be any good. 444hp and 317 torque = not too great IMHO.
yea i think your right, I had an S2000 240 hp 150 tq the clutch lasted 20000 miles.
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I would say the S5 would probably dominate the E550. The weight is the same, and even though the E550 has 30 more HP, it's 0-60 is 5.3 while the S5 is 5.1. The S5 would take is for sure when you through them some corners.
I think the S5 would probably take the E550, but let's be clear about 'dominate'. The E 'officially' runs a 5.2 0-60 (non-quattro), so 0.1s is not domination particularly when you look at the class of car- don't forget the E is a luxury sedan while the S is a sport coupe built on the A4 platform (a great base, BTW). I'd also say that there have been several publications that have run the E's 0-60 times at 5.1s but that's neither here nor there. I haven't run the numbers, but if the S5 really is the same weight as the E then shame on audi! (it's the quattro...) The S's 6-speed manual also gives a significant performance boost, but apples to apples (e.g. tiptronic to automatic) is a better comparison. FWIW, the coupe 550 runs 0-60 in 5.0, but isn't available in 4matic.

BTW, I really like audi (and have an A4)- but the E is a different class altogether. A more 'fair' comparison, both pricewise and size/class-wise is the S5 vs. C63. The A6 is a better comparison to the E550, while the s6 compares to the E63.

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Old 05-05-2010, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by z0h
I think the S5 would probably take the E550, but let's be clear about 'dominate'. The E 'officially' runs a 5.2 0-60 (non-quattro), so 0.1s is not domination particularly when you look at the class of car- don't forget the E is a luxury sedan while the S is a sport coupe built on the A4 platform (a great base, BTW). I'd also say that there have been several publications that have run the E's 0-60 times at 5.1s but that's neither here nor there. I haven't run the numbers, but if the S5 really is the same weight as the E then shame on audi! (it's the quattro...) The S's 6-speed manual also gives a significant performance boost, but apples to apples (e.g. tiptronic to automatic) is a better comparison. FWIW, the coupe 550 runs 0-60 in 5.0, but isn't available in 4matic.

BTW, I really like audi (and have an A4)- but the E is a different class altogether. A more 'fair' comparison, both pricewise and size/class-wise is the S5 vs. C63. The A6 is a better comparison to the E550, while the s6 compares to the E63.
I agree with everything except the A6 vs. the E550. Audi and Porsche both seem to price themselves of the equation, Lexus/Ininiti "are" starting to follow suit. Shame.

If all things pricewise were equal concerning the S5 vs E550, then it would still be E550 for me. IMO, the elevated price over the E550 just adds insult to injury.
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Heh...as a Finn i find the discussion about pricing funny. But that's just because cars cost a lot over here. A stock C63 saloon is 117k € ($ 150k ). A fully equipped C63 saloon would cost 189000 € ($ 240000). So...100k $ doesn't sound that awful to me :P I envy your prices. My ML 63 cost 220 000 € as new (poor schmuck who bought it in the first place).
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Heh...as a Finn i find the discussion about pricing funny. But that's just because cars cost a lot over here. A stock C63 saloon is 117k € ($ 150k ). A fully equipped C63 saloon would cost 189000 € ($ 240000). So...100k $ doesn't sound that awful to me :P I envy your prices. My ML 63 cost 220 000 € as new (poor schmuck who bought it in the first place).
You deserve to pay more because of this!!

http://www.leekspin.com/
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You deserve to pay more because of this!!

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wtf was that? Never seen that one before. Besides, what does that have to do with Finland? Looks more like something some japanese guy farted out.
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Originally Posted by Morro
Torque numbers very low. You've got to have close to as much torque as you do horsepower to be any good. 444hp and 317 torque = not too great IMHO.



That doesn't make any sense at all and is the most moronic thing I've read in while. F430, 599, Gallardo and M5 are all class leaders-- you need to get educated.

As for the guy on pg 2 saying "it's turbo'd"....er, no it isn't...

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wtf was that? Never seen that one before. Besides, what does that have to do with Finland? Looks more like something some japanese guy farted out.
The song is sung in a combination of Finnish and gibberish...
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Yeah the WRX STI did that 7 years ago.

Im sorry, but if I want a rally inspired car ill stick with Subaru at 1/3 the price.
+1, Audi is not treading new ground here!!
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Originally Posted by callmiro
The combination of the low torque and Quattro all wheel drive are a disadvantage....

I've walked on a couple of RS4's and they are dogs out of the hole

But the styling on the A5 is awesome....great body lines and great stance...

Here's a pic of my buddies A5 lowered on 20" RS4 wheels...great stance....




I gotta say that I love the look of the Audi S5/RS5. And your friend did a very, very nice job with the lowering and wheels. It looks fantastic. It truly does have a nice stance and aggressive front. I would love to get one just to have one based on looks. But as I keep looking at it, your 63 still looks sooo much better and aggressive-it doesnt have the VW-esque to it, (with your body color, wheels, front grill and profile) and has the guts to walk the walk...
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The song is sung in a combination of Finnish and gibberish...
OMG I'm addicted to this song: You've been spinning for 0:01:52 and counting
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Originally Posted by dremorg
Audi has released a new promo video for the awe-inspiring RS5.

Boasting a 4.2-liter V8 with 331 kW (444 hp / 450 PS) and 430 Nm (317 lb-ft) of torque, the RS5 rockets from 0-100 km/h in 4.6 seconds and tops out at an electronically limited 250 km/h (155 mph). If that isn't fast enough, Audi can remove the speed limiter to enable the car to hit 280 km/h (174 mph). Not bad considering the RS5 only consumes 10.8 liters of petrol per 100 km (21.78 US mpg).

To keep the beast under control, Audi installed a new crown-gear center differential. It "can widely vary the distribution of torque between the front and rear axles. If necessary, up to 70 percent can flow to the front or as much as 85 percent toward the tail end."

The RS5 will go on sale in Germany this spring, with a base price of approximately €77,700 ($103,870 USD). Unfortunately, Audi has been mum on U.S. availability but it doesn't look promising
They can't be serious! $104K?!
I cant beleive how cheap you guys pick your cars up for. I just paid $165 000 for my 2010 C63, discounted!
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I cant beleive how cheap you guys pick your cars up for. I just paid $165 000 for my 2010 C63, discounted!
I'm sure it's got to be all relative (wages, taxes, insurance, etc).
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Wutta waste of money, Ill stick to my AMG.
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Originally Posted by Walnuts
I cant beleive how cheap you guys pick your cars up for. I just paid $165 000 for my 2010 C63, discounted!
DIfferent countries, different wages....

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