wat cops do when they are boredd!!
05-29-2010, 11:12 AM
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they just chill in the middle of the divider and they just pick out people. They love Route 9 so what i do i take the backroad pass that township and hop back on Route 9 again. So many freaking stories about that township pulling people over for some BS. Albokid you from NY? if so they love giving NY drivers hell here in Jersey.
05-29-2010, 01:30 PM
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Just something I read the other day:
You Have the Right to Refuse Search Requests
Police may order the driver and any passengers out of the vehicle. If this happens, step out of the car. If they have reasonable suspicion to detain you, police may frisk the outside of your clothing to check for weapons, but only if they have a basis for suspecting you're armed.
If police detain and frisk you, you have the right to clearly state your refusal to consent to the search. For example, you may say "Officer, I'm not resisting. I do not consent to this search." But you should only verbally refuse. Never physically resist. Just touching an officer could get you tasered or beaten. You could also get a felony charge for assaulting a police officer.
Whether or not they frisk you, an officer may ask you a series of questions, which may include something like "You don't mind if I have a look in your car?" While this might sound like a command, it's usually a request -- and the 4th Amendment protects your right to refuse search requests.
In response to such request, you may politely decline by saying "Officer, I know you're just doing your job, but I don't consent to searches." Some officers may use their authority to make you feel obligated to prove your innocence by asking "What do you have to hide?" Don't fall for such tricks. If necessary, repeat your refusal.
Refusing a search request is not an admission of guilt and does not give the officer the legal right to search or detain you. In fact, most avoidable police searches don't occur because police have probable cause. They occur because people get tricked or intimidated into consenting to search requests.
The 4th Amendment protects your right to refuse search requests, but you must clearly state your refusal for the protection to legally apply.
If police find any illegal items after you consent to a search request, you can be arrested even if you had nothing to do with it.
You Have the Right to Refuse Search Requests
Police may order the driver and any passengers out of the vehicle. If this happens, step out of the car. If they have reasonable suspicion to detain you, police may frisk the outside of your clothing to check for weapons, but only if they have a basis for suspecting you're armed.
If police detain and frisk you, you have the right to clearly state your refusal to consent to the search. For example, you may say "Officer, I'm not resisting. I do not consent to this search." But you should only verbally refuse. Never physically resist. Just touching an officer could get you tasered or beaten. You could also get a felony charge for assaulting a police officer.
Whether or not they frisk you, an officer may ask you a series of questions, which may include something like "You don't mind if I have a look in your car?" While this might sound like a command, it's usually a request -- and the 4th Amendment protects your right to refuse search requests.
In response to such request, you may politely decline by saying "Officer, I know you're just doing your job, but I don't consent to searches." Some officers may use their authority to make you feel obligated to prove your innocence by asking "What do you have to hide?" Don't fall for such tricks. If necessary, repeat your refusal.
Refusing a search request is not an admission of guilt and does not give the officer the legal right to search or detain you. In fact, most avoidable police searches don't occur because police have probable cause. They occur because people get tricked or intimidated into consenting to search requests.
The 4th Amendment protects your right to refuse search requests, but you must clearly state your refusal for the protection to legally apply.
If police find any illegal items after you consent to a search request, you can be arrested even if you had nothing to do with it.
This is thanks to the MADD folks (I don't drink) making the FSB test and the breathalyzer test NOT covered by the 5th Amendment.
Most police are good people who just want to be safe and get you and them on your way to catch the real bad people.
I've actually had officers pull me over, get a radio call and say here's your license back there is a big fight going on at "know bad place" and they burn rubber.
It's that x% that are the ones that give their fellow officers a bad name.
05-29-2010, 01:32 PM
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Since driving on a public way is considered a privilege and not a right, the courts have held that the Bill of Rights DO NOT apply to motoring.
This is thanks to the MADD folks (I don't drink) making the FSB test and the breathalyzer test NOT covered by the 5th Amendment.
Most police are good people who just want to be safe and get you and them on your way to catch the real bad people.
I've actually had officers pull me over, get a radio call and say here's your license back there is a big fight going on at "know bad place" and they burn rubber.
It's that x% that are the ones that give their fellow officers a bad name.
This is thanks to the MADD folks (I don't drink) making the FSB test and the breathalyzer test NOT covered by the 5th Amendment.
Most police are good people who just want to be safe and get you and them on your way to catch the real bad people.
I've actually had officers pull me over, get a radio call and say here's your license back there is a big fight going on at "know bad place" and they burn rubber.
It's that x% that are the ones that give their fellow officers a bad name.
05-29-2010, 03:57 PM
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I'm sorry, whats the problem here.
you exceeded the speedlimit by 40%, you had illegal tint, and you didn't have the legally required front license plate.
You took a chance and got busted. Now you gotta pay up. Its not the cops fault you were breaking the law.
you exceeded the speedlimit by 40%, you had illegal tint, and you didn't have the legally required front license plate.
You took a chance and got busted. Now you gotta pay up. Its not the cops fault you were breaking the law.
05-29-2010, 04:58 PM
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I get so tired of hearing all these fu@*ing crybaby stories every week. Don't do illegal sh*t to your car or drive like a fool and you won't get pulled over. I'm no saint but I know the cops are just doing their job and I know and if I was speeding it was my fault. I don't have a front plate on my car either. But I know I have to and I'm prepared to pay the $60 if I get busted. End rant... flame away.
05-29-2010, 06:24 PM
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From Car & Driver magazine
More Tickets in Hard Times - Feature
Cities searching for revenue look to their police departments as a way to cash in.
BY GEORGE HUNTER, ILLUSTRATION BY TOM COSGROVE
February 2009
Pages: 1 Photos
Motorists beware: In some communities, police are issuing tickets during these hard times at a rate higher than ever in what critics say is an attempt to raise revenue in order to offset budget shortfalls.
Take, for example, the metropolitan Detroit area, which has been reeling economically much longer than has the rest of the country. The number of moving violations issued has increased by at least 50 percent in 18 communities in the metro area since 2002—and 11 of those municipalities have seen ticketing increases of 90 percent or more. During that time, Michigan has cut revenue sharing to communities by $3 billion. Officials are scrambling to balance their budgets amid the tumbling economy, and some people say the authorities are turning to traffic cops for help.
The president of a state police union isn’t pretending it doesn’t happen. James Tignanelli, president of the Police Officers Association of Michigan union, says, “When elected officials say, ‘We need more money,’ they can’t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments. “A lot of police chiefs will tell you the goal is to have nobody speeding through their community, but heaven forbid if it should actually happen—they’d be out of money,” Tignanelli says.
Police Chief Michael Reaves of Utica, Michigan, says the role of law enforcement has changed over the years. “When I first started in this job 30 years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement, but if you’re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues,” he says. “That’s just the reality nowadays.”
Motorists such as George Hilliard are outraged at the ramped-up traffic enforcement. Hilliard, a 49-year-old warehouse worker who’s been laid off, says he got a ticket last year near his home in Dearborn Heights on a section of road where the speed limit drops suddenly from 45 to 35 mph. A few weeks later, his son got a ticket on the same stretch of road. A few weeks after that, according to Hilliard, his other son got a ticket in the same spot.
“The cops sit out there and pick people off, one by one,” Hilliard says. “They’re catching people left and right. There’s a McDonald’s right there, and they pull people in there all day. They’ll give you a ticket for going five miles over the speed limit. They’re making so much money off people, it’s ridiculous.” Driving 5 mph over the limit is a $90 ticket in Dearborn Heights and tacks two points onto the motorist’s driving record.
Garrett TeWinkle of Seal Beach, California, was headed to a wedding in Ohio recently when he was given a speeding ticket in Taylor, a few miles from Detroit Metro Airport. “I was astounded to get a speeding ticket,” TeWinkle says. “Even my wife, who is my harshest critic, says there is no way I was driving as fast as the officer said. I hadn’t had a ticket in years. “I had been under the impression that Michigan was trying to promote tourism,” TeWinkle says. “Great way to make a first impression—no wonder the state’s economy is in the porcelain.”
Kathleen Weckler of Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, feels the same way. Last year, on her 80th birthday, she was on her way to the dentist when a police officer in nearby Birmingham gave her a ticket for running a red light. Weckler insists she didn’t run the light—“but you can’t fight them. It’s their word against yours,” she says. “I told one officer that I used to tell my children that police officers are their friend—but with the [ticket] quotas, they are not any more,” Weckler says.
Some police officers, such as Sgt. Richard Lyons of Trenton, Michigan, say they don’t like being pressured to write more tickets. “That’s not what I got into law enforcement for—to hand out chintzy tickets,” says Lyons, a 21-year veteran. “Things have changed from when I first started in this job. There was a time when you’d come in, do your job, and go home.
But I’ve never felt pressure to bring revenue to the city like we do now.
“It’s a whole different ball game now,” Lyons says. “They’re trying to use police officers to balance the budget on the backs of drivers, and it’s too bad. The people we count on to support us and help us when we’re on the road are the ones who end up paying the bills, and they’re ticked off about it. We might as well just go door to door and tell people, ‘Slide us $100 now since your 16-year-old is going to end up paying us anyway when he starts driving.’ You can’t blame people for getting upset.”
Jack Walker of Flint was given two speeding tickets within a few weeks of each other last year while driving in Orion Township. He says police are more aggressive than ever about stopping motorists. “It’s getting ridiculous: Police are using us as their fundraiser, and it’s not right,” Walker says. “They have more important things to do.”
__________________________________________________ ________________________________
George Hunter is a police reporter with the Detroit News.
Cities searching for revenue look to their police departments as a way to cash in.
BY GEORGE HUNTER, ILLUSTRATION BY TOM COSGROVE
February 2009
Pages: 1 Photos
Motorists beware: In some communities, police are issuing tickets during these hard times at a rate higher than ever in what critics say is an attempt to raise revenue in order to offset budget shortfalls.
Take, for example, the metropolitan Detroit area, which has been reeling economically much longer than has the rest of the country. The number of moving violations issued has increased by at least 50 percent in 18 communities in the metro area since 2002—and 11 of those municipalities have seen ticketing increases of 90 percent or more. During that time, Michigan has cut revenue sharing to communities by $3 billion. Officials are scrambling to balance their budgets amid the tumbling economy, and some people say the authorities are turning to traffic cops for help.
The president of a state police union isn’t pretending it doesn’t happen. James Tignanelli, president of the Police Officers Association of Michigan union, says, “When elected officials say, ‘We need more money,’ they can’t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments. “A lot of police chiefs will tell you the goal is to have nobody speeding through their community, but heaven forbid if it should actually happen—they’d be out of money,” Tignanelli says.
Police Chief Michael Reaves of Utica, Michigan, says the role of law enforcement has changed over the years. “When I first started in this job 30 years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement, but if you’re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues,” he says. “That’s just the reality nowadays.”
Motorists such as George Hilliard are outraged at the ramped-up traffic enforcement. Hilliard, a 49-year-old warehouse worker who’s been laid off, says he got a ticket last year near his home in Dearborn Heights on a section of road where the speed limit drops suddenly from 45 to 35 mph. A few weeks later, his son got a ticket on the same stretch of road. A few weeks after that, according to Hilliard, his other son got a ticket in the same spot.
“The cops sit out there and pick people off, one by one,” Hilliard says. “They’re catching people left and right. There’s a McDonald’s right there, and they pull people in there all day. They’ll give you a ticket for going five miles over the speed limit. They’re making so much money off people, it’s ridiculous.” Driving 5 mph over the limit is a $90 ticket in Dearborn Heights and tacks two points onto the motorist’s driving record.
Garrett TeWinkle of Seal Beach, California, was headed to a wedding in Ohio recently when he was given a speeding ticket in Taylor, a few miles from Detroit Metro Airport. “I was astounded to get a speeding ticket,” TeWinkle says. “Even my wife, who is my harshest critic, says there is no way I was driving as fast as the officer said. I hadn’t had a ticket in years. “I had been under the impression that Michigan was trying to promote tourism,” TeWinkle says. “Great way to make a first impression—no wonder the state’s economy is in the porcelain.”
Kathleen Weckler of Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, feels the same way. Last year, on her 80th birthday, she was on her way to the dentist when a police officer in nearby Birmingham gave her a ticket for running a red light. Weckler insists she didn’t run the light—“but you can’t fight them. It’s their word against yours,” she says. “I told one officer that I used to tell my children that police officers are their friend—but with the [ticket] quotas, they are not any more,” Weckler says.
Some police officers, such as Sgt. Richard Lyons of Trenton, Michigan, say they don’t like being pressured to write more tickets. “That’s not what I got into law enforcement for—to hand out chintzy tickets,” says Lyons, a 21-year veteran. “Things have changed from when I first started in this job. There was a time when you’d come in, do your job, and go home.
But I’ve never felt pressure to bring revenue to the city like we do now.
“It’s a whole different ball game now,” Lyons says. “They’re trying to use police officers to balance the budget on the backs of drivers, and it’s too bad. The people we count on to support us and help us when we’re on the road are the ones who end up paying the bills, and they’re ticked off about it. We might as well just go door to door and tell people, ‘Slide us $100 now since your 16-year-old is going to end up paying us anyway when he starts driving.’ You can’t blame people for getting upset.”
Jack Walker of Flint was given two speeding tickets within a few weeks of each other last year while driving in Orion Township. He says police are more aggressive than ever about stopping motorists. “It’s getting ridiculous: Police are using us as their fundraiser, and it’s not right,” Walker says. “They have more important things to do.”
__________________________________________________ ________________________________
George Hunter is a police reporter with the Detroit News.
05-30-2010, 10:49 AM
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More Tickets in Hard Times - Feature
Cities searching for revenue look to their police departments as a way to cash in.
BY GEORGE HUNTER, ILLUSTRATION BY TOM COSGROVE
February 2009
Pages: 1 Photos
Motorists beware: In some communities, police are issuing tickets during these hard times at a rate higher than ever in what critics say is an attempt to raise revenue in order to offset budget shortfalls.
Take, for example, the metropolitan Detroit area, which has been reeling economically much longer than has the rest of the country. The number of moving violations issued has increased by at least 50 percent in 18 communities in the metro area since 2002—and 11 of those municipalities have seen ticketing increases of 90 percent or more. During that time, Michigan has cut revenue sharing to communities by $3 billion. Officials are scrambling to balance their budgets amid the tumbling economy, and some people say the authorities are turning to traffic cops for help.
The president of a state police union isn’t pretending it doesn’t happen. James Tignanelli, president of the Police Officers Association of Michigan union, says, “When elected officials say, ‘We need more money,’ they can’t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments. “A lot of police chiefs will tell you the goal is to have nobody speeding through their community, but heaven forbid if it should actually happen—they’d be out of money,” Tignanelli says.
Police Chief Michael Reaves of Utica, Michigan, says the role of law enforcement has changed over the years. “When I first started in this job 30 years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement, but if you’re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues,” he says. “That’s just the reality nowadays.”
Motorists such as George Hilliard are outraged at the ramped-up traffic enforcement. Hilliard, a 49-year-old warehouse worker who’s been laid off, says he got a ticket last year near his home in Dearborn Heights on a section of road where the speed limit drops suddenly from 45 to 35 mph. A few weeks later, his son got a ticket on the same stretch of road. A few weeks after that, according to Hilliard, his other son got a ticket in the same spot.
“The cops sit out there and pick people off, one by one,” Hilliard says. “They’re catching people left and right. There’s a McDonald’s right there, and they pull people in there all day. They’ll give you a ticket for going five miles over the speed limit. They’re making so much money off people, it’s ridiculous.” Driving 5 mph over the limit is a $90 ticket in Dearborn Heights and tacks two points onto the motorist’s driving record.
Garrett TeWinkle of Seal Beach, California, was headed to a wedding in Ohio recently when he was given a speeding ticket in Taylor, a few miles from Detroit Metro Airport. “I was astounded to get a speeding ticket,” TeWinkle says. “Even my wife, who is my harshest critic, says there is no way I was driving as fast as the officer said. I hadn’t had a ticket in years. “I had been under the impression that Michigan was trying to promote tourism,” TeWinkle says. “Great way to make a first impression—no wonder the state’s economy is in the porcelain.”
Kathleen Weckler of Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, feels the same way. Last year, on her 80th birthday, she was on her way to the dentist when a police officer in nearby Birmingham gave her a ticket for running a red light. Weckler insists she didn’t run the light—“but you can’t fight them. It’s their word against yours,” she says. “I told one officer that I used to tell my children that police officers are their friend—but with the [ticket] quotas, they are not any more,” Weckler says.
Some police officers, such as Sgt. Richard Lyons of Trenton, Michigan, say they don’t like being pressured to write more tickets. “That’s not what I got into law enforcement for—to hand out chintzy tickets,” says Lyons, a 21-year veteran. “Things have changed from when I first started in this job. There was a time when you’d come in, do your job, and go home.
But I’ve never felt pressure to bring revenue to the city like we do now.
“It’s a whole different ball game now,” Lyons says. “They’re trying to use police officers to balance the budget on the backs of drivers, and it’s too bad. The people we count on to support us and help us when we’re on the road are the ones who end up paying the bills, and they’re ticked off about it. We might as well just go door to door and tell people, ‘Slide us $100 now since your 16-year-old is going to end up paying us anyway when he starts driving.’ You can’t blame people for getting upset.”
Jack Walker of Flint was given two speeding tickets within a few weeks of each other last year while driving in Orion Township. He says police are more aggressive than ever about stopping motorists. “It’s getting ridiculous: Police are using us as their fundraiser, and it’s not right,” Walker says. “They have more important things to do.”
__________________________________________________ ________________________________
George Hunter is a police reporter with the Detroit News.
Cities searching for revenue look to their police departments as a way to cash in.
BY GEORGE HUNTER, ILLUSTRATION BY TOM COSGROVE
February 2009
Pages: 1 Photos
Motorists beware: In some communities, police are issuing tickets during these hard times at a rate higher than ever in what critics say is an attempt to raise revenue in order to offset budget shortfalls.
Take, for example, the metropolitan Detroit area, which has been reeling economically much longer than has the rest of the country. The number of moving violations issued has increased by at least 50 percent in 18 communities in the metro area since 2002—and 11 of those municipalities have seen ticketing increases of 90 percent or more. During that time, Michigan has cut revenue sharing to communities by $3 billion. Officials are scrambling to balance their budgets amid the tumbling economy, and some people say the authorities are turning to traffic cops for help.
The president of a state police union isn’t pretending it doesn’t happen. James Tignanelli, president of the Police Officers Association of Michigan union, says, “When elected officials say, ‘We need more money,’ they can’t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments. “A lot of police chiefs will tell you the goal is to have nobody speeding through their community, but heaven forbid if it should actually happen—they’d be out of money,” Tignanelli says.
Police Chief Michael Reaves of Utica, Michigan, says the role of law enforcement has changed over the years. “When I first started in this job 30 years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement, but if you’re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues,” he says. “That’s just the reality nowadays.”
Motorists such as George Hilliard are outraged at the ramped-up traffic enforcement. Hilliard, a 49-year-old warehouse worker who’s been laid off, says he got a ticket last year near his home in Dearborn Heights on a section of road where the speed limit drops suddenly from 45 to 35 mph. A few weeks later, his son got a ticket on the same stretch of road. A few weeks after that, according to Hilliard, his other son got a ticket in the same spot.
“The cops sit out there and pick people off, one by one,” Hilliard says. “They’re catching people left and right. There’s a McDonald’s right there, and they pull people in there all day. They’ll give you a ticket for going five miles over the speed limit. They’re making so much money off people, it’s ridiculous.” Driving 5 mph over the limit is a $90 ticket in Dearborn Heights and tacks two points onto the motorist’s driving record.
Garrett TeWinkle of Seal Beach, California, was headed to a wedding in Ohio recently when he was given a speeding ticket in Taylor, a few miles from Detroit Metro Airport. “I was astounded to get a speeding ticket,” TeWinkle says. “Even my wife, who is my harshest critic, says there is no way I was driving as fast as the officer said. I hadn’t had a ticket in years. “I had been under the impression that Michigan was trying to promote tourism,” TeWinkle says. “Great way to make a first impression—no wonder the state’s economy is in the porcelain.”
Kathleen Weckler of Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, feels the same way. Last year, on her 80th birthday, she was on her way to the dentist when a police officer in nearby Birmingham gave her a ticket for running a red light. Weckler insists she didn’t run the light—“but you can’t fight them. It’s their word against yours,” she says. “I told one officer that I used to tell my children that police officers are their friend—but with the [ticket] quotas, they are not any more,” Weckler says.
Some police officers, such as Sgt. Richard Lyons of Trenton, Michigan, say they don’t like being pressured to write more tickets. “That’s not what I got into law enforcement for—to hand out chintzy tickets,” says Lyons, a 21-year veteran. “Things have changed from when I first started in this job. There was a time when you’d come in, do your job, and go home.
But I’ve never felt pressure to bring revenue to the city like we do now.
“It’s a whole different ball game now,” Lyons says. “They’re trying to use police officers to balance the budget on the backs of drivers, and it’s too bad. The people we count on to support us and help us when we’re on the road are the ones who end up paying the bills, and they’re ticked off about it. We might as well just go door to door and tell people, ‘Slide us $100 now since your 16-year-old is going to end up paying us anyway when he starts driving.’ You can’t blame people for getting upset.”
Jack Walker of Flint was given two speeding tickets within a few weeks of each other last year while driving in Orion Township. He says police are more aggressive than ever about stopping motorists. “It’s getting ridiculous: Police are using us as their fundraiser, and it’s not right,” Walker says. “They have more important things to do.”
__________________________________________________ ________________________________
George Hunter is a police reporter with the Detroit News.
I've lived in Michigan. It's a joke in that state. They are doing so poor economically that they indeed just hand out tickets like they are handing out the Sunday paper. When ever I go back to CA, I almost never see any cops hiding out in the suburbs or waiting in the dark corners to "catch" someone. In CA you have to be a nut job doing stupid speeds to get a cop to pull you over, and in that case it is well deserved. But in my opinion, let peopl be responsible drivers, don't micro manage, but look after real trouble makers and hand out tickets when truly deserved, not for 5 over.
