List of LTH (Long Tube Headers) Manufacturers for C63?
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Cargraphic is alot cheaper then MHP for me being in Australia. For the price of MHP headers only, i bought the complete car graphic exhaust. It got shipped on the 28th, hoping for it to be here next week and fitted by next friday.
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From headers to tailpipe? That sounds like a great deal! How much in Australian $ for the whole system?
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Its costing me about $5500aud fitted for the whole system, inc headers to tips. They are 1 7/8in header pipe, then dual 3in with x pipe. I will post pics once its arrived.
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so that's about $5000 right? would be great to see some pics of the full system, and performance numbers.
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he said he got the full exhaust system for less than what mhp charges for the headers... the mhp headers have a list price of about $4500 with no cats
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He's talking about the price he paid (in AD) for the Cargraphic parts in Australia, where he lives. Which is relevant info for anyone else in Australia who might consider the Cargraphic system, but doesn't really have any bearing on what the products cost (in USD) in the United States.
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Interesting.
Personally, I think it's crazy for a manufacturer to have "list" prices artificially high only to "street" much, much cheaper - just makes it harder on the consumer to find out the true costs. Probably also causes lost business for the manufacturer, if some consumers just assume it's out of their budget without researching further. The only advantage (that I can think of) is the possibility of nudging a consumer into an impulse buy, because they think "hey this is a great deal - I got a $10k exhaust system for $7k!" (FYI, I just made up those numbers... no idea what the street prices are).
Fortunately, no one cares what I think.
Personally, I think it's crazy for a manufacturer to have "list" prices artificially high only to "street" much, much cheaper - just makes it harder on the consumer to find out the true costs. Probably also causes lost business for the manufacturer, if some consumers just assume it's out of their budget without researching further. The only advantage (that I can think of) is the possibility of nudging a consumer into an impulse buy, because they think "hey this is a great deal - I got a $10k exhaust system for $7k!" (FYI, I just made up those numbers... no idea what the street prices are).
Fortunately, no one cares what I think.
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Interesting.
Personally, I think it's crazy for a manufacturer to have "list" prices artificially high only to "street" much, much cheaper - just makes it harder on the consumer to find out the true costs. Probably also causes lost business for the manufacturer, if some consumers just assume it's out of their budget without researching further. The only advantage (that I can think of) is the possibility of nudging a consumer into an impulse buy, because they think "hey this is a great deal - I got a $10k exhaust system for $7k!" (FYI, I just made up those numbers... no idea what the street prices are).
Fortunately, no one cares what I think.
Personally, I think it's crazy for a manufacturer to have "list" prices artificially high only to "street" much, much cheaper - just makes it harder on the consumer to find out the true costs. Probably also causes lost business for the manufacturer, if some consumers just assume it's out of their budget without researching further. The only advantage (that I can think of) is the possibility of nudging a consumer into an impulse buy, because they think "hey this is a great deal - I got a $10k exhaust system for $7k!" (FYI, I just made up those numbers... no idea what the street prices are).
Fortunately, no one cares what I think.
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My Kleemann headers weren't that much - then again, I don't have a M156. Enjoy living vicariously through those of you who do, however.
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Been really looking into the headers for the c63 and from what i see overall noone can beat the mhp product and reasearch they have done putting them together completely in the usa and materials they use to make them seem great,power there making hands down kills everything out there !!!
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Guys,
I am looking at CarGraphic here. Here is what I have been quoted as far as pricing is concerned and some dyno charts. I will investigate further before I pull the trigger but it seems that they are priced very competively.
FEEDBACK FROM CARGRAPHIC:
please find attached the dyno graph from us.
You must look on "Motorleistung (korrigiert)"
there is written what the car have before and after
the tuning.
Serie DK1 Lauf4 is only ECU upgrade
Serie DK1 mit Krümmer und Katersatz is manifolds catalytic testpips and ECU
Serie DK1 DK2 is 1 OE 2 ECU 3 manfilds/cats and ECU in one dayno
We can modify your ECU but there is always a little rest risk when the ECU was program before from a other factory.
CARW204C63FK - 44 200CZK inc. VAT = $2,322USD - 20% VAT if exported = $1,857 retail
CARW204C63LP - Connecting pipe from header to X pipe **Removed secondary Cats** 18 90CZK inc. VAT = $976.98 - 20% = $781.58 retail
CARW204C63XP - Rear X-pipe 23 400CZK inc. VAT = $1,229.77 = $983.91 retail
Note these prices are retail from distributor so I am sure there would be further discounts if you bought multiple parts. I checked and they said that it would be best that you do their ECU flash just to be safe.
Also looking at KW 3 which is 53 990CZK inc. VAT = $2,837 USD - 20% VAT if exported = $2,269 - not sure how that matches up with pricing in US or elsewhere.
I am looking at CarGraphic here. Here is what I have been quoted as far as pricing is concerned and some dyno charts. I will investigate further before I pull the trigger but it seems that they are priced very competively.
FEEDBACK FROM CARGRAPHIC:
please find attached the dyno graph from us.
You must look on "Motorleistung (korrigiert)"
there is written what the car have before and after
the tuning.
Serie DK1 Lauf4 is only ECU upgrade
Serie DK1 mit Krümmer und Katersatz is manifolds catalytic testpips and ECU
Serie DK1 DK2 is 1 OE 2 ECU 3 manfilds/cats and ECU in one dayno
We can modify your ECU but there is always a little rest risk when the ECU was program before from a other factory.
CARW204C63FK - 44 200CZK inc. VAT = $2,322USD - 20% VAT if exported = $1,857 retail
CARW204C63LP - Connecting pipe from header to X pipe **Removed secondary Cats** 18 90CZK inc. VAT = $976.98 - 20% = $781.58 retail
CARW204C63XP - Rear X-pipe 23 400CZK inc. VAT = $1,229.77 = $983.91 retail
Note these prices are retail from distributor so I am sure there would be further discounts if you bought multiple parts. I checked and they said that it would be best that you do their ECU flash just to be safe.
Also looking at KW 3 which is 53 990CZK inc. VAT = $2,837 USD - 20% VAT if exported = $2,269 - not sure how that matches up with pricing in US or elsewhere.
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I don't think you can even get them here for $2322 let alone $1857 before shipping and duties, etc. Has been discussed. If you can, let all of us know as I am sure there are others here lurking to get a lower priced header.
Edit: Wait a minute. Are you the member here that arranged the Euro Center Console buy?
Edit: Wait a minute. Are you the member here that arranged the Euro Center Console buy?
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Guys,
I am looking at CarGraphic here. Here is what I have been quoted as far as pricing is concerned and some dyno charts. I will investigate further before I pull the trigger but it seems that they are priced very competively.
FEEDBACK FROM CARGRAPHIC:
please find attached the dyno graph from us.
You must look on "Motorleistung (korrigiert)"
there is written what the car have before and after
the tuning.
Serie DK1 Lauf4 is only ECU upgrade
Serie DK1 mit Krümmer und Katersatz is manifolds catalytic testpips and ECU
Serie DK1 DK2 is 1 OE 2 ECU 3 manfilds/cats and ECU in one dayno
We can modify your ECU but there is always a little rest risk when the ECU was program before from a other factory.
CARW204C63FK - 44 200CZK inc. VAT = $2,322USD - 20% VAT if exported = $1,857 retail
CARW204C63LP - Connecting pipe from header to X pipe **Removed secondary Cats** 18 90CZK inc. VAT = $976.98 - 20% = $781.58 retail
CARW204C63XP - Rear X-pipe 23 400CZK inc. VAT = $1,229.77 = $983.91 retail
Note these prices are retail from distributor so I am sure there would be further discounts if you bought multiple parts. I checked and they said that it would be best that you do their ECU flash just to be safe.
Also looking at KW 3 which is 53 990CZK inc. VAT = $2,837 USD - 20% VAT if exported = $2,269 - not sure how that matches up with pricing in US or elsewhere.
I am looking at CarGraphic here. Here is what I have been quoted as far as pricing is concerned and some dyno charts. I will investigate further before I pull the trigger but it seems that they are priced very competively.
FEEDBACK FROM CARGRAPHIC:
please find attached the dyno graph from us.
You must look on "Motorleistung (korrigiert)"
there is written what the car have before and after
the tuning.
Serie DK1 Lauf4 is only ECU upgrade
Serie DK1 mit Krümmer und Katersatz is manifolds catalytic testpips and ECU
Serie DK1 DK2 is 1 OE 2 ECU 3 manfilds/cats and ECU in one dayno
We can modify your ECU but there is always a little rest risk when the ECU was program before from a other factory.
CARW204C63FK - 44 200CZK inc. VAT = $2,322USD - 20% VAT if exported = $1,857 retail
CARW204C63LP - Connecting pipe from header to X pipe **Removed secondary Cats** 18 90CZK inc. VAT = $976.98 - 20% = $781.58 retail
CARW204C63XP - Rear X-pipe 23 400CZK inc. VAT = $1,229.77 = $983.91 retail
Note these prices are retail from distributor so I am sure there would be further discounts if you bought multiple parts. I checked and they said that it would be best that you do their ECU flash just to be safe.
Also looking at KW 3 which is 53 990CZK inc. VAT = $2,837 USD - 20% VAT if exported = $2,269 - not sure how that matches up with pricing in US or elsewhere.
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I don't think you can even get them here for $2322 let alone $1857 before shipping and duties, etc. Has been discussed. If you can, let all of us know as I am sure there are others here lurking to get a lower priced header.
Edit: Wait a minute. Are you the member here that arranged the Euro Center Console buy?
Edit: Wait a minute. Are you the member here that arranged the Euro Center Console buy?
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1. KW K3 Coilerovers
2. ECU/Headers/pipes - if Cargraphic checks out I might go with them. If not then I will go with K3 from Kleemann which covers ECU upgrade, a set headers with sport cats, and large trottle system. They throw filters in as well, but I don't think there will be much gain with filters. Should put me around 570 at crank.
3. Evo pulley
4. Just ordered some Rays VR G2s which should cut some serious weight off running OEM rims. Need to decide on some rubber, but shooting for 275 min on rear
5. CF hood arrives on Monday
6. CF front lip splitter is already and ready for install.
7. CF roof spolier arrives Tuesday
8. RevoSport CF grill on order
9. EvoSport 2-Piece Rotors -back ordered
That would be it. I have already done most of the interior except for CF gauge cluster which I will be ordering from MaCarbon. That should be it for the time been. These things are money-pit!
Last edited by harrower; 08-01-2010 at 04:50 PM.
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Hi B - I was going to go with Kleemann K4 but apparently they are having problems with the cams and the launch of the product according to Corry is aways off. So now I am going to piece what I can together as follows:
1. KW K3 Coilerovers
2. ECU/Headers/pipes - if Cargraphic checks out I might go with them. If not then I will go with K3 from Kleemann which covers ECU upgrade, a set headers with sport cats, and large trottle system. They throw filters in as well, but I don't think there will be much gain with filters. Should put me around 570 at crank.
3. Evo pulley
4. Just ordered some Rays VR G2s which should cut some serious weight off running OEM rims. Need to decide on some rubber, but shooting for 275 min on rear
5. CF hood arrives on Monday
6. CF front lip diffuser is already and ready for install.
7. CF roof spolier arrived Tuesday
8. RevoSport CF grill on order
9. EvoSport 2-Piece Rotors -back ordered
That would be it. I have already done most of the interior except for CF gauge cluster which I will be ordering from MaCarbon. That should be it for the time been. These things are money-pit!
1. KW K3 Coilerovers
2. ECU/Headers/pipes - if Cargraphic checks out I might go with them. If not then I will go with K3 from Kleemann which covers ECU upgrade, a set headers with sport cats, and large trottle system. They throw filters in as well, but I don't think there will be much gain with filters. Should put me around 570 at crank.
3. Evo pulley
4. Just ordered some Rays VR G2s which should cut some serious weight off running OEM rims. Need to decide on some rubber, but shooting for 275 min on rear
5. CF hood arrives on Monday
6. CF front lip diffuser is already and ready for install.
7. CF roof spolier arrived Tuesday
8. RevoSport CF grill on order
9. EvoSport 2-Piece Rotors -back ordered
That would be it. I have already done most of the interior except for CF gauge cluster which I will be ordering from MaCarbon. That should be it for the time been. These things are money-pit!