Chased by a GSXR-750 up San Gabriel Canyon.
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i'm at work and gigling like a little girl after reading this post. bwahahaha... funny @55 comment! Ahhh...now i see what aggravated your yeast infection....look
My post was a comment to the first couple posts saying that GSXR 600's run high 11's
I didn't even see you post or your arm chair stats....until I just scrolled back up
Thanks for schooling me with your googlology...i shoulda just kept on watchiin Lizard Lick Towing
My post was a comment to the first couple posts saying that GSXR 600's run high 11's
I didn't even see you post or your arm chair stats....until I just scrolled back up
Thanks for schooling me with your googlology...i shoulda just kept on watchiin Lizard Lick Towing
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From: Burlington, Ontario
2009 C63 AMG
Where the largest issue is the margin for error between bikes and cars.
An AVERAGE car driver can still go quite quickly and hamfist a car through a set of corners.
with a bike, the rider is FAR more important in the equation.
as for the 600/750/1000 argument, the 600 is much easier to ride.
Outright mass is not as important as the reciprocating mass of the engine.
A larger displacement engine makes the bike harder to turn as a result of the gyroscopic effect of the moving engine parts
Try holding a bicycle wheel by the axle and spinning it quickly, then try to turn it side to side.
now try the same with a motorcycle rim.
A 1000 ridden at speed also has to be ridden differently than a 600 as you need to steer the bike with the rear wheel quite a bit as the front wheel won't be in complete contact with the ground
An AVERAGE car driver can still go quite quickly and hamfist a car through a set of corners.
with a bike, the rider is FAR more important in the equation.
as for the 600/750/1000 argument, the 600 is much easier to ride.
Outright mass is not as important as the reciprocating mass of the engine.
A larger displacement engine makes the bike harder to turn as a result of the gyroscopic effect of the moving engine parts
Try holding a bicycle wheel by the axle and spinning it quickly, then try to turn it side to side.
now try the same with a motorcycle rim.
A 1000 ridden at speed also has to be ridden differently than a 600 as you need to steer the bike with the rear wheel quite a bit as the front wheel won't be in complete contact with the ground
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2020 A35, @021 F250, 96 Mustang
Since I have both a C63 and a GSXR-750 I think it would be fun to clone myself and run a race 
Since that's still impossible (that we know of right???) I can only give my impressions.
C63 = very fast, very good handling in corners but a bit on the heavy side
GSXR-750 = scare the crap out of me fast, incredibly satisfying when you hit the apex just right but a lot harder to manage the turns than virtually any car.
In my mind - bottom line - to go fast in a fast car is fairly easy with a little bit of skill. To go fast on a fast bike requires much more skill and some serious cojones.
Since that's still impossible (that we know of right???) I can only give my impressions.
C63 = very fast, very good handling in corners but a bit on the heavy side
GSXR-750 = scare the crap out of me fast, incredibly satisfying when you hit the apex just right but a lot harder to manage the turns than virtually any car.
In my mind - bottom line - to go fast in a fast car is fairly easy with a little bit of skill. To go fast on a fast bike requires much more skill and some serious cojones.
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From: Burlington, Ontario
2009 C63 AMG
Honestly, that bike as your first is a bit of overkill(lots of it actually)
If you've got zero bike experience, that bike can bite you quickly(much more quickly than any car will)
I'm an instructor and one of the roadrace schools here in Canada and we get a lot of new(track) riders that complain as we do the entry level courses on 250cc race bikes. (This bike is too small for me)
They quickly figure out how bad they are when they can't handle a 250 with 35hp properly.
If you've got zero bike experience, that bike can bite you quickly(much more quickly than any car will)
I'm an instructor and one of the roadrace schools here in Canada and we get a lot of new(track) riders that complain as we do the entry level courses on 250cc race bikes. (This bike is too small for me)
They quickly figure out how bad they are when they can't handle a 250 with 35hp properly.
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2020 A35, @021 F250, 96 Mustang
My GSXR-750 was my first bike, but I did take a riding safety course before buying the bike and I am uhm, well over 40 and mature enough to know that it's not really cool do to wheelies while riding 100 mph on a public road. Does that make me old??
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The reason why I m looking at a GSX-R 750 as a first bike is because my friend is letting his go for cheap as he has to move. I am way too big for a 250 CC since I am 240lbs+ so that's kinda hard... My plan is to do road training and then get the 750 after that
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G63, C190 AMG GTC, W209 CLK63 BS, W208 CLK430
A truly skilled rider on a CBR600 or similar bike would eat you up. A GSXR750 with a rider that could REALLY push-you wouldn't have a chance. Simple power to weight. ALOT of guys riding sportbikes are squids-they can go reasonably fast in a straight line but have no idea how much braking and cornering ability their machine actually has.
-Supersport bikes (aka crotch rockets/"street" bikes/etc) have very sensitive steering, braking, and clutch inputs
-SS bikes have a ton of power, that comes on very quickly
Those 3 reasons are why I do not like seeing beginners on them. I rode dirt bikes for 5 years before I ever got on a motorcycle on the street. I didn't ride my 1st SS bike until about a year after that. The 1st thing I noticed was that it took a lot less input to get the bike to do the same thing. I'd suggest a Suzuki SV650, Suzuki SV650-S, or a Kawasaki Ninja 650R. Sportbike/supersport styling, but a LOT easier to learn on.
Last edited by VividRacing; Dec 21, 2011 at 05:49 PM.
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I've been racing bikes for 30 years and I won't ride one on the street for any reason.
If you're going to do it, take a road course, ride for a couple of months then go do a race day school
You'll learn more about bike control and riding in a day, than you will in 3 years of street riding.
If you're going to do it, take a road course, ride for a couple of months then go do a race day school
You'll learn more about bike control and riding in a day, than you will in 3 years of street riding.
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I've been racing bikes for 30 years and I won't ride one on the street for any reason.
If you're going to do it, take a road course, ride for a couple of months then go do a race day school
You'll learn more about bike control and riding in a day, than you will in 3 years of street riding.
If you're going to do it, take a road course, ride for a couple of months then go do a race day school
You'll learn more about bike control and riding in a day, than you will in 3 years of street riding.
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From: Chico, CA
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I have been on bikes for most of my life. I currently ride a modded GSXR 1000. It is by far the most exhilerating acceleration that I have ever experienced (As well as the amg, I drive a 620rwhp 300zx that has dipped into the mid 10's and the 1000 destroys this car). As for cornering, it is amazing to hit the corners and sink your back tire into the asphalt and throttle through the twisties at triple or quadruple the speedlimit, but without the confidence, experience, and heuvos it is a disaster waiting to happen. I have watched many riders bail out in the middle of a corner and end up being ambulanced out of a beautiful canyon road. If you are a responsible driver, respect the bike, and do not try to push your limits until you are truely experienced enough to do so, a 750 is not a bad bike, but as any rider knows, it is not if you go down, but when. Always wear gear and ride defensively.
As for the op, against an experienced rider that knows how to throw their bike around, exhaust fumes is all that you will see from that race. A top speed race may have a different outcome, as most of the 750 and 1000cc run into an aerodynamic wall at about 180-190mph, but you will need about a 15 mile strip of straight downhill road with a tailwind and your speed limiter removed as 155 will not do it here.
