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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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lol so every time Jon jumped me by a half car length every time I raced him prior to my current state, and I reeled him in, by his logic I put car lengths on him!

Jon asked me to run for money earlier today. I forgot to block him off my buddy list so I didn't answer. If he was a gracious winner OR loser, I'd throw money on it, being that I'm a degenerate gambler anyway and it would make it more exciting. But the same reason why I refuse to run him for fun is the same reason I refuse to run him for money he won't ever shut his f'in mouth. Frankly, I'm tired of it and apparently so are a lot of other people around here.

BTW Jon, didn't you say you refuse to ever race with a passenger in your car? "oh passenger makes a huge diff bro they get beat bad from a roll" You raced a guy much bigger than you and likely more stuff in their trunk as well. How about we put a 100 lbs worth of sandbags in your car and hit him up for a rematch? That's basically what it boils down to.
At least 100lb's. You have met Jon. He weights 120 at best. Plus I had 40lb's in car seats in back and im 210. Put another 130 in his car and we will be even. Or ill take out the kid seats and put a 100lb bag in the font with him.

You should know better though, the rules dont apply to Jon, only to everyone else racing Jon.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
At least 100lb's. You have met Jon. He weights 120 at best. Plus I had 40lb's in car seats in back and im 210. Put another 130 in his car and we will be even. Or ill take out the kid seats and put a 100lb bag in the font with him.

You should know better though, the rules dont apply to Jon, only to everyone else racing Jon.
lmao or I can sit my 170lb *** in his car, and we can put a cocker spaniel in yours to even it out.

Regardless, for someone who makes a big stink about a car's weight (Jon) he omitted that fact. Someone won't claim they have a factory freak anymore it seems.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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lmao or I can sit my 170lb *** in his car, and we can put a cocker spaniel in yours to even it out.

Regardless, for someone who makes a big stink about a car's weight (Jon) he omitted that fact. Someone won't claim they have a factory freak anymore it seems.
The best part is even with more weight I still beat him!

Yeah I think we can put the "Factory Freak" to rest now...
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Wow....you guys really dont' like this kid John huh? lol
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Wow....you guys really dont' like this kid John huh? lol
I don't dislike him. We've gone to a dyno day, the drag strip together and had 350Z's together. What pisses me off is he won't ever f'in shut up about the same things over and over again. Like a bad DJ, I can predict what's coming every time I talk to him

"i have a factory freak"
"my car is scary"
"ur gonna blow your motor bro"

Just overall annoying talk, never constructive; to the point where I don't want to talk to him anymore.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Superlubricity,

Didn't you find that ROW airboxes pick up about 20 rwhp in the middle of the powerband? I'm sure the airbox mod being discussed in this thread would make similar gains.
No, not even close. The ROW airboxes made zero HP/TQ gains on the dyno when compared to the OEM airboxes with charcoals removed. We also tested a couple filters. avengerboater tested OEM paper vs. K&N filters and saw zero gains. I tested BMCs on my car vs. OEM paper filers. Same results; there was no measurable difference in power with any of the airbox/filter combinations.
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if this was at Atco this bs about he jumped, he cant take off wont be going on. light turns green you dint go TOBAD.... Comon guys come to ATCO track rental. i wanna have some fun tooo
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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if this was at Atco this bs about he jumped, he cant take off wont be going on. light turns green you dint go TOBAD.... Comon guys come to ATCO track rental. i wanna have some fun tooo
lol I will come with my lowly car. Jon won't, he has all-season tires and will complain he can't launch. He also doesn't realize if he can't go WOT off the line, his trap speeds will also suffer
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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I tried this. Told him I would pay for it. He asked for real world results first. He got them.

Now I told him to hold up his end of the deal and he seems to be backing out of it calling me a chicken for not racing him again in PM's.

I told him he could do a Dyno pull with his car without the box mod and K&N's and then I would swap in my filters and box mod and Dyno again... He doesnt like that idea I guess...
I said I would dyno the car. We should do it on the same day,same dyno.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by superlubricity
No, not even close. The ROW airboxes made zero HP/TQ gains on the dyno when compared to the OEM airboxes with charcoals removed. We also tested a couple filters. avengerboater tested OEM paper vs. K&N filters and saw zero gains. I tested BMCs on my car vs. OEM paper filers. Same results; there was no measurable difference in power with any of the airbox/filter combinations.
My apologies. I made a mistake when I referred to you. I was talking about member "Sincity's" thread about "air boxes demystified."

I also got the hp and tq confused. So basically, to me. haha
But, I there is a dyno graph in his thead that shows a 20 ft/lbs rwtq increase in the middle of the powerband. And in some areas rwhp is up by 15.

Sure, 1, 2, 3, even 5 hp/tq, no biggy but 20 ft/lbs rwtq is a big enough difference that the torque curve definitely got higher.

Interestinly, charcoal filter delete showed a marginal gain as well. But it was small enough that if you say it makes no difference, I believe it.

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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lol so every time Jon jumped me by a half car length every time I raced him prior to my current state, and I reeled him in, by his logic I put car lengths on him!

Jon asked me to run for money earlier today. I forgot to block him off my buddy list so I didn't answer. If he was a gracious winner OR loser, I'd throw money on it, being that I'm a degenerate gambler anyway and it would make it more exciting. But the same reason why I refuse to run him for fun is the same reason I refuse to run him for money he won't ever shut his f'in mouth. Frankly, I'm tired of it and apparently so are a lot of other people around here.

BTW Jon, didn't you say you refuse to ever race with a passenger in your car? "oh passenger makes a huge diff bro they get beat bad from a roll" You raced a guy much bigger than you and likely more stuff in their trunk as well. How about we put a 100 lbs worth of sandbags in your car and hit him up for a rematch? That's basically what it boils down to.
Ben Ben Ben About few yrs ago I ran your 135i (tuned to 355whp) when you got my stock Clk55 by 1 1/2 cars. I never denied that.But going from a 60 roll we were pretty much even. You had all this BS excuses about turbo lag and whatever. I said I wanted to run you again(with video) from 60 roll but you continued to ignore me. Now you jump on the bandwagon about the lbs difference. Geez that guy with the Jeep never gave excuses about the run. You are
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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No, not even close. The ROW airboxes made zero HP/TQ gains on the dyno when compared to the OEM airboxes with charcoals removed. We also tested a couple filters. avengerboater tested OEM paper vs. K&N filters and saw zero gains. I tested BMCs on my car vs. OEM paper filers. Same results; there was no measurable difference in power with any of the airbox/filter combinations.
OMG OMG There is a GOD!
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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lol I will come with my lowly car. Jon won't, he has all-season tires and will complain he can't launch. He also doesn't realize if he can't go WOT off the line, his trap speeds will also suffer
Dude Dude I even told you when I go next time I would go for trap speed since i cant hook with As tires. Your the one who said a better hook up will net higher traps Not the case.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
OMG OMG There is a GOD!
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...stified-5.html Check out this dyno
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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if this was at Atco this bs about he jumped, he cant take off wont be going on. light turns green you dint go TOBAD.... Comon guys come to ATCO track rental. i wanna have some fun tooo
Like I posted before it wasnt about who won but even though he jumped 1st I still pulled on him showing the airbox is BS.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Its very minimal. But intially you get those gains. Eventually the ECU adjusts and there is very little gain.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Yeah its not about who won.. its about me jumping 1/2 a car on him and him reeling in a 1/4 car up to 140 MPH with him lighter at least 100lb's.

Yeah he sure proved the air box didn't work.


Mthis is right, take it to the track and shut it. Atco. October 7th. Im still hoping to go but if Jon signs up I will 100% be there.


But we know he doesn't like to race from a dig...
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Its very minimal. But intially you get those gains. Eventually the ECU adjusts and there is very little gain.

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Ben Ben Ben About few yrs ago I ran your 135i (tuned to 355whp) when you got my stock Clk55 by 1 1/2 cars. I never denied that.But going from a 60 roll we were pretty much even. You had all this BS excuses about turbo lag and whatever. I said I wanted to run you again(with video) from 60 roll but you continued to ignore me. Now you jump on the bandwagon about the lbs difference. Geez that guy with the Jeep never gave excuses about the run. You are
Don't forget this run is on video its 2 cars i love how you always love to make yourself feel better. Sorta like how "you were gaining on him he jumped on me" so you love to make excuses too when you lose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuhThJObgZ0

And my lord this was last year, like June or July when I had just a tune and intake.... few years ago? I didn't have my car a "few years ago". I had a Civic

Anywho, like I said it's your mouth that makes me not want to talk to you anymore or run you for that matter. I would think after years of getting blasted by others you would get the hint, but I guess not. And regarding the weight differential, I'm going off what YOU state, not what I think. To me, a loss is a loss, a win is a win. You evidently don't feel that way, so keep on guessing. I sincerely hope no one ever runs you again so now you get to keep your "factory freak" to yourself

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I said I would dyno the car. We should do it on the same day,same dyno.
I told ya im game. Let me know when your available.

Try to get to Atco on the 7th also.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Its very minimal. But intially you get those gains. Eventually the ECU adjusts and there is very little gain.
I don't see how that is true. But, I'm no expert.
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I don't see how that is true. But, I'm no expert.
He has no real experience with it. He talking out his pooper to serve his point that it does nothing. Thanks for putting up the link. At least its some hard data that there is a gain.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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He has no real experience with it. He talking out his pooper to serve his point that it does nothing. Thanks for putting up the link. At least its some hard data that there is a gain.
No.... but... but... the internet told me....
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