badu

Hi guys, while searching for E90 M3, I have stumbled upon a 2010 C63 that almost blew my mind. I offered 15K off the MSRP, and the dealer was willing to take my price with little to no negotiation. The car is sticker in the high 70s with the following options.

multi-media, carbon fiber trim, P30 (not P31), AMG leather, ipod interface, etc

the bad: the dealer put on some aftermarket front bumper distance sensor for the lady that ordered the car. She did not get her fund at the end, so the car has been sitting.

What do you guys think of this car? Is this a decent deal?

Thanks for your help
Sean

Jycke

I don't know about the pricing in the states but imo any C63 is better than an M3. This is an unbiased board btw
If it seems good, take it.

badu

Thanks for the support haha. I am trying to get a feel of the market so I don't pay extra premium for the car. The money saved could really go toward some nice mods :P

Baby Gorilla

I'd take it. Essentially a zero-mileage car?

Yuille36

Baby gorilla,

What part of NOVA are you from?
I'm in Alexandria.

badu

I think the car has roughly 150 miles from the test drives. I am a little concerned about the spirited test drives for these cars but at least I have 4 year warranty to cover those. I also believe in the "drive-it-like-you-stole-it" break-in method over the traditional

Yuille36

badu,

I think this a good deal, I believe in "if you snooze you lose" concept.
So go get the dam thing, and stop procrastinating.

Baby Gorilla

Southeastern Loudoun County, right near the Fairfax County border off of US-50.


I understand that concern, but there was probably a salesperson in the car on all test drives. I got mine with a few miles on it too and have had no problems. I also drove it hard as soon as I got it.

Yuille36

We need to call out all AMG owners in NOVA for a meet and greet, one weekend?

mrobinso

I'd be interested. Live in Fairfax directly off I-66.

Yuille36

Any ideas; dates, location and time. I would like to do something before it starts getting really cold. But someplace that isn't far for everyone, neutral ground so to speak. Where we could exchange ideas, number and emails. This isn't about trying to race other members, and get arrested just a simple meet and greet.

vmx128

I think I came across this car when I was searching for deals on a 2010 C63. Since this car has been punched out, I'd ask for at least 16k off if not more. Also, don't pay for the almost $2k in options that the dealer installed on it aftermarket (parking sensor and rear only tint). They wanted $995 for the tint alone!

badu

vmx128: Yes, I think we are talking about the exact same car. I also felt that the additional aftermarket "depreciates" the car instead of adding value, so I asked to not pay for those. What was your take on the car? Did you end up getting your car somewhere else?

Question: If the car has been "punched out", do I still pay for gas guzzler tax???

nachilus

if you do count me in, BTW...I am in Bowie maryland

vmx128

Yes, The car is still new even though it has been "punched out", so you will have to pay the gas guzzler tax (included in MSRP).

I didn't want to spend too much on the car, so I ended up getting mine from Fresno. Paid $52.5k (MSRP was $69.5k). The whole point of buying a 2010 for me was to save money, so I am pretty happy with my purchase.

Here is another way of looking at it: You are really not getting $15k off on that car unless you wanted each and every option it comes with. I really don't care for carbon fiber trim ($2.55k) and teleaid ($650), so the $15k discount dwindles down to $11.8k. Add the unwanted aftermarket options, 150 miles of "spirited driving", 3 months less warranty, previous model year and the fact that the car has probably been sitting in the lot for a good 8-10 months, the $11.8k discount may not be enough to justify this deal. And if you didn't want the P30 performance package, you are looking at an effective discount of $7.8k over a 2011 (at MSRP) that you could get with exactly the options you wanted. Dealers are already willing to go invoice or thereabouts on 2011's, so you may actually get a better overall deal on a new 2011.

badu

Hi Vmx, thanks for your help again.

Do you mind sharing what your options are? The only option that I absolutely want is P30/P31 depending on the production dates. AMG leather and Navi are also nice too so I don't mind having those. If you have p30, do you find the ride too harsh for everyday driving?

451HP

Agreed! I'd go for AT LEAST 16k off MSRP. Hope you get one and enjoy driving soon.

vmx128

I have AMG leather, Multimedia and P2. The only option I have that I did not want is teleaid, and I didn't get two options I wanted (keyless go and camera), but I can tolerate a car without keyless go or the camera for $17k off . I plan on installing the camera myself ($200 do it yourself project) soon.

I test drove a P31 at the AMG driving event a week ago. The ride was a bit harsher than my C63, but nothing you couldn't live with on smooth roads. If you live in an area with bad roads, I would steer away from the harsher suspensions. Regular C63s are stiff enough!

The one negative thing about the P31 is that the LSD is now a $2k option. So LSD+P31 is $8k vs. the $4k for P30, which includes LSD. The P31 has engine and ECU upgrades, so it may be worth it to some.

In the end, everything boils down to how much you are willing to pay for the car and whether you like to save money or not. There are guys who have paid $80k for their C63s and are happy with their purchase. I like to find deals on pretty much everything I buy, so I couldn't be happier with the $17k off I got (plus saved another $1700 in CA taxes thanks to the discount!).

Remember one thing, the ONLY reason to buy a 2010 now is to save money. If you can't get a spectacular deal on a 2010, you should start shopping for 2011s. $15k off on the car you mentioned above sounds like a good deal on the surface, but I feel the dealer can do better. With the $10k trunk money they got from MB, they have a $19k margin on a $70K MSRP car, and more on the $78k MSRP car we are looking at. 2010s have already seen one model year worth of depreciation as 2011s are showing up at dealers everywhere, so you also need to factor that in. And we all know how hard these AMGs depreciate!

Baby Gorilla

Sounds good. I started a new thread, so we don't hijack this one any more.

Sheep

I say go for it! I will be going to the NoVA area later but I got mine in CA... My C63 has a MSRP of $79K and I only got $11.5 off + over 9% sale tax in CA!! $15k off with only 3% tax in VA is a very good deal in my book. Just tell the guy you want $15.5k off and you should get the deal. Have fun.

Sheep

khmergod

If most testers don't go over 5k rpm, you're good. They actually were sealing your piston rings for you, essentially breaking it in so you won't get combustion leakage, etc.

khmergod

Wish I could have gotten the deals you guys got. My sticker price was 82k(2011 self built), all I could squeeze out of dealer was 4k (total cost was 84k), took me a good half hour and almost exiting the door. I started with 5k firm, they started with 1k, second offer I told them 4k, no more negotiation. They said best they could give was 2.5k. I walk near the door. Manager tells me to meet half and I say no. Then he said "So 4k off will get a deposit?" I said "Hell Yeah!" Still waiting for production,

transferred

Great deal. Do it. That's a brand new car for less than what some stealers ask (but don't get) for used ones.

The M3 is a slightly sharper drive but the C63 has more power and is arguably a better dd, I'd jump on it at that price.

Yuille36

With all the vehicles that you have owned, this should be a no branier. I think that your getting a great deal. Buy the dam thing, and be done with it.

marksman1500

I think that is a very fair deal.