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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 02:12 AM
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love your work so far i know im not in your leage but have done a 11.91 pass at 117mph do you think this is good for tune only?
Originally Posted by Dads C63
Sneak peak!!

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For my "Dedicated Track Car", just laugh please.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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Nice Cams you got there Buddy

Looks like a pretty nice lead in ramp & They are not held open for a long time. Wonders of computer controled cam timing. you get the best of both worlds , And they tune easy because of the Dual Mass Air flow sensors. They look to be coated with DLCcertess coatings. Ulta low Friction & High wear resistance, that means Minimize Friction losses, decrease wear & improved Performance. GooD *****expensive but worth it. Good Job from Andy & Keith
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Klinh
Your 1/4 trap speed are everywhere? Your fastest 1/4 with the worse trap speed.
To answer this question would require hours of explanation. All I can say is that we had to pull the nitrous out at 5500rpms in order to get the tranny to shift so we were only using the nitrous a very small part of the time Wednesday night. I know it looks goofy and trust me its driving us all nuts.
We are making some other changes and will be back out at MIR next week.

I am confident that IF/WHEN we can get all this to come together the car will break some records and I'm not one to brag or predict but the car is that fast on spray. Here's what I mean. We have recorded 0-60mph times on spray at 3.0 seconds and a vbox verifiable 60-130 time of 6.7 seconds. Put those two together and what do you get??
When the cams go in along with the spray it will have a very healthy package.

I can't say who the cams are from because they are not a sponsor on MBW.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by VCA_AMG
DadsC63, curious why you chose a MBZ luxury 4-door sedan as your 1/4-mile project car and not something else? Just curious, your results are great.
I didn't choose the car, it chose me. LOL
If you read in the 10.987 thread post #47 I explain how I got where we are today.

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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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If you start with a stock set up I believe you can easily get 100rwhp with the cams and matching tune. However, the exhaust manifolds are really the bottle neck as we all know.
I know its the bottle neck, but at Calabogie the max decibels are 92, and stock I'm at 91.9! The guy would not believe my car has a stock exhaust and said "everyone says their car's exhaust is stock!"

My target is to get the mhp tune, slicks, cams, os giken lsd, forgestar f14 and I already have the lightweight rotors from evo.

I figure that with this I can run around 11.5 on the 1/4 mile, possibly a little bit lower on a good run.

Good luck with the project.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RNS-11Z
are these cams from MHP keith?
Yes.
Originally Posted by Dads C63
To answer this question would require hours of explanation. All I can say is that we had to pull the nitrous out at 5500rpms in order to get the tranny to shift so we were only using the nitrous a very small part of the time Wednesday night. I know it looks goofy and trust me its driving us all nuts.
We are making some other changes and will be back out at MIR next week.

I am confident that IF/WHEN we can get all this to come together the car will break some records and I'm not one to brag or predict but the car is that fast on spray. Here's what I mean. We have recorded 0-60mph times on spray at 3.0 seconds and a vbox verifiable 60-130 time of 6.7 seconds. Put those two together and what do you get??
When the cams go in along with the spray it will have a very healthy package.

I can't say who the cams are from because they are not a sponsor on MBW.
I wish you the best of luck. It's not as easy as adding 0-60 and 60-130 times but if you break 9's I would be ecstatic! Your car should break records with the spray. I can't wait to see what the cams do Will you have them in by MIR? Again, I applaud you for pushing the envelope. I'm loving it! I was there to witness Stephens insane 10.58 pass. The car was so quiet and fast. I've seen alot of fastttt runs at MIR, hope to witness another record!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Yes.


I wish you the best of luck. It's not as easy as adding 0-60 and 60-130 times but if you break 9's I would be ecstatic! Your car should break records with the spray. I can't wait to see what the cams do Will you have them in by MIR? Again, I applaud you for pushing the envelope. I'm loving it! I was there to witness Stephens insane 10.58 pass. The car was so quiet and fast. I've seen alot of fastttt runs at MIR, hope to witness another record!
Oh, how well do I know that we can't add the 0-60 and 60-130 times because of all the variables but if we can just get the "package" to function properly together I think a mid 10 second pass can be accomplished. I would not even think about a 9 second pass is possible. Car is too heavy and the electronics are too advanced and difficult to manage. If it can be done we'll figure it out but I doubt it.

If you could take this motor and drop it in another body it would fly!!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Very nice, and interesting as well. Do you have a set of stock cams to compare to these? These seem to have a pretty steep ramp angle and lift, duration seems a bit on the short side (just based on the pics), but I've never seen a stock set so I have nothing to go off of as reference. Did the cams get designed for a stock port/flow or to be matched to the port and polish being offered by one of the tuners? Cams in order to really work at their best should be designed with the port flow and velocity as a rule, but what do I know? LOL Looks awesome keep up the hard work!!
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dads C63
I believe this is a test set and then the others will go into production very soon.

If you start with a stock set up I believe you can easily get 100rwhp with the cams and matching tune. However, the exhaust manifolds are really the bottle neck as we all know.
I'll ready order a set of cams from andy since 45 days ago
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im just waiting for the cams then ill send him my ECU For tune
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Can't wait to hear those lobe at idle!
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 02:16 AM
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Dad at it again! looks exciting!
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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I'll ready order a set of cams from andy since 45 days ago
i get my

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im just waiting for the cams then ill send him my ECU For tune
I would NOT run any LTH's without a new tune. Too much additional air flow without additional fuel added.

Pics of the stock cams:


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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dads C63
I would NOT run any LTH's without a new tune. Too much additional air flow without additional fuel added.

Pics of the stock cams:


Any resale opportunity on these cams? I'm trying to think of some, nothing yet. That would help absorb the cost...
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Dad's...like you aren't fast enough already!

I look forward to your new 1/4mile times after the cams go in!

You sir...are my C63 hero!
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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very hard to see without a side by side, but from what I can see there is more lift, and a touch more duration. I wonder if they fooled with lobe separation, and if they kept the same base circle.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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I should have the cams by Friday. Then its install and tune time!!
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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I should have the cams by Friday. Then its install and tune time!!
Go Go Go!


We are excited.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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I should have the cams by Friday. Then its install and tune time!!
Very exciting. I'm sure they're going to sound amazing. This is really cool.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Dads are the heads/intake ported yet ?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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I should have the cams by Friday. Then its install and tune time!!
10's on motor only?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Dads are the heads/intake ported yet ?
Heads are mildly ported with stock valves and springs and the intake is bone stock.
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10's on motor only?
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