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Just happened a few days ago, Porsche dealer isn't giving him a loaner either
p.s. took it to dealer to fix alignment issue, guess it must have been way off

 

Holy crap, the shape of lampost is about the worst thing you can hit this side of a thick tree....lucky to walk away the pole must have been designed to sheer from that type of impact but still strongly suggest speeding/unsafe speed.

Dealers, valets, aftermarket tuners...it seems you've got to be more suspicious than ever when handing over your keys, that or check you odo and just cross your fingers and hope for the best.

-Rob

 

Someone would be getting an a** whopping if it was my car, trust me!!!

 

The poles are not designed to sheer off, doing so would pose a greater risk to pedestrians and to a lesser extent other vehicles.

To do that much damage, either the pole was deteriorated, or the lambo hit it with extreme amounts of force. Based on the damage to the lambo, I am guessing faulty or deteriorated pole.

 

looks like those ESP off parking lot peelouts in the rain came back to bite the guy in the ***, eh?

 

more pics

 

I think your assumption is wrong.

 

This and the Ford GT crash post bring me back to the SL63 BS thread and why that guy _AMG_ most likely didnt get that test drive.

 

Did you guys also hear about the M5 oil service totalling. Oh man, these are all classics that will never be forgotten.

 

Hmm.. I stand corrected.. destroyed that wheel.. Still.. I have seen entire vehicles completely wrapped around the pole leaving the car in a nice horse shoe shape... and the pole did not budge.... I cannot imagine a supercar thats made out of essentially tinfoil and carbon fiber....

 

What's wrong with peeling out if it's your own car?

 

According to the guys in the thread on the Lambo forums.. those poles do exactly what you assume they didn't do. With the pole being made that way, the only real object which remains that could have done that damage seems to be the curb. And judging by one picture he posted, I would assume it had done so;

 

Ouch!!!! I hope the dealership has good insurance

 

WHOA... i wonder how much that is going to cost...

 

Wow.. I bet it wasn't a normal "road test"! Some people in dealership just keep doing silly things.

 

so are you saying the lamp post was meant to fall? I doubt that

 

That totally sucks!!!!!

 

Correct, electricity, telphone, light poles are all designed to shear at the base upon impact.

 

I beg to differ. Working in the utility business for almost 20 years, I can assure you that our Service poles, correct lingo, are NOT designed to shear off. AKA, we do NOTHING to them that would allow them to shear, no stress reliefs, weak spots, etc, etc.

The pole had either rusting hardware, corroded anchor bolts, or was hit hard.

 

You do realize.. that if an electrical pole, or any pole carrying significant amounts of current (I believe street lights and signal lights run off 220V, with who knows how much current), or electrical poles pulling 400A or higher (which is what feeds most modern houses now, 1 200A or 2 200A service lines), was to shear off, and the cable snaps and hits the ground, the injuries involved would be far greater then the car that just slammed into it. Especially if its raining, or any large standing bodies of water, or the cable falls onto the pole that is now on the ground, energizing... See where I am going with this.

No, poles are design to take the impact and remain in place to minimize further damage to the surrounding areas.

 

So many posts lately of dealers messing up customers' cars

 

Can you imagine that phone call...I've got some good news and some bad news...remember that alignment issue? (long pause)....... We were finally able to reproduce what you explained and pin-pointed the source......

 

Someone is now on the "unemployment " rolls!!!


Hey Jimmy, long time no see!!

Was the source the pole??

 

You couldn't be more incorrect.The object at the bottom of the pole is known as a "transformer base".They are made of aluminum and are designed to do exactly what you see.In the event the pole is snapped the foundation remains in tact and the pole is simply replaced.

 

I hope your're kidding all of us about your work -

Section 3: Breakaway Light Poles
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Frangibility Requirement
The FHWA adopted Section 7 of the 1985 AASHTO publication entitled “Standard Specifications for Structural Supports for Highway Signs, Luminaires, and Traffic Signals” for implementation beginning in July 1990. This section requires more stringent breakaway characteristics. TxDOT’s previous design of roadway illumination assemblies (based on a 1975 AASHTO specification) does not meet these requirements.

Breakaway light poles rely on frangible transformer bases to provide the breakaway feature. The 1985 AASHTO specification provides for a maximum change in momentum of a 1800 pound car to break the pole away. The 1975 AASHTO specification provided for a similar change in momentum except that the test vehicle weighed 2,250 pounds.

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Structural Requirement
While providing the necessary frangibility, the base must also be structurally adequate to support the illumination pole for design wind speeds. Transformer bases meeting the ’85 AASHTO specification may not adequately support some 50 foot steel poles, notably those designed to meet the ’75 AASHTO specification.

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Replacement Guidelines
Lighting systems built under the previous requirements should be maintained with ’75 AASHTO standard poles and transformer bases currently in stock.

Replacement transformer bases for lighting systems built under the ’85 AASHTO requirements should be specified to be the same model number as the bases being replaced. This model number is required to be incised on the base.

Two variables of pole construction affect structural compatibility with the ’85 AASHTO transformer bases top: bolt circle and base plate thickness. No tolerances for these variables have been established. For this reason, TxDOT does not recommend the direct replacement of ’75 AASHTO standard transformer bases with ’85 AASHTO standard transformer bases for 50 foot steel poles.

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New Installation Guidelines
Current breakaway requirements can be met on new installations by using the new transformer base and pole designed for that base, both approved by the FHWA to meet ’85 AASHTO standards.

TxDOT typically uses breakaway poles wherever possible, even when not required. For these types of new installations, where breakaway poles are used but not required (outside the clear zone or behind barriers), transformer base poles meeting the ’75 AASHTO guidelines may be used when currently in stock but should not be considered breakaway.

Do not use shims or washers to level the ’85 AASHTO breakaway base, because this may change the breakaway characteristics of the base. Ensure that the top of the concrete foundation is level.