Nissan GTR vs c63 amg
11-01-2010, 12:03 AM
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Listen here almighty authority and kiss a** of the NISSAN GTR: It does nothing for me. NOTHING. I have driven one, I have spent some time just esthetically/cosmetically, engineering-ly, and value-wise taking it apart in my mind and considering it. I have held my own in keeping up with its data, capabilities and reviews. ITS NOT ALL THAT. It does fine for itself, but its a hair on my nut s*ck when I compare it to other cars in that price range or even my MEASLY little C63 and it's capabilities. Everytime I see one I think nothing of it. IT LOOKS LIKE A DRESSED UP ALTIMA IN MY OPINION.
So I came here to state my opinion on it. You got a problem with that? I am not interested in taking any of your snippy remarks as if I am some highschool ricer kid or interested in having a forum debate on why I think what I think and I can give two Sh*ts what your assessment is on my opinion on the GTR.
Have a great Halloween and enjoy the rest of your Sunday night.
So I came here to state my opinion on it. You got a problem with that? I am not interested in taking any of your snippy remarks as if I am some highschool ricer kid or interested in having a forum debate on why I think what I think and I can give two Sh*ts what your assessment is on my opinion on the GTR.
Have a great Halloween and enjoy the rest of your Sunday night.
If that's your opinion, remind me to completely ignore all of your posts going forward. The GTR is an engineering delight. It performs in ALL ASPECTS better than a 997 TT. So while it may be subjectively ugly as sin, it is OBJECTIVELY "engineering-ly" and "value-wise" stellar.
I find it fascinating that you equate a twin turbo, all-wheel-drive super-car to one of your nut hairs. An interesting association to say the least.
Please show me the "data" where a stock C63 outruns a stock GTR. Also show me an "Andy (MHP) C63" that runs a 205 mph mile or a 1/4 mile in 9.1 @ 163.
This is my final post in this thread (unless someone says something stupid).
The bottom line is that if you need to get from point A to point B ASAP, you pick the GTR. If that is not your sole mission, the AMG gets the nod.
Please show me the "data" where a stock C63 outruns a stock GTR. Also show me an "Andy (MHP) C63" that runs a 205 mph mile or a 1/4 mile in 9.1 @ 163.
This is my final post in this thread (unless someone says something stupid).
The bottom line is that if you need to get from point A to point B ASAP, you pick the GTR. If that is not your sole mission, the AMG gets the nod.
11-01-2010, 04:11 AM
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11-01-2010, 06:47 AM
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11-01-2010, 09:01 AM
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11-01-2010, 10:11 AM
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Different days, different cars, stock or tune will mean different results.
Thanks for sharing the videos. We all know that our little C can sometimes hang in there and beat the monster Nissan.
We however have to give kudos to Nissan for building one amazing machine. Stock, it can outrun and outtrack a 997TT which used is the benchmark, let alone a stock C63 and if extreme tune, it can show its tailpipes to a Bugatti Veyron.
The ability of the GTR to be tuned to the king of the road should be revered. I do not know of any tuned Mercedes that can outrun a Veyron.
Thanks for sharing the videos. We all know that our little C can sometimes hang in there and beat the monster Nissan.
We however have to give kudos to Nissan for building one amazing machine. Stock, it can outrun and outtrack a 997TT which used is the benchmark, let alone a stock C63 and if extreme tune, it can show its tailpipes to a Bugatti Veyron.
The ability of the GTR to be tuned to the king of the road should be revered. I do not know of any tuned Mercedes that can outrun a Veyron.
11-01-2010, 10:40 AM
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Well based on this video we can now determine that the almighty Nissan GT-R ain't so almighty from a roll after all.
11-01-2010, 05:12 PM
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11-01-2010, 05:24 PM
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When cars are racing from a roll, the outcome is only partially determined by the respective vehicles' quarter mile ET's and traps.
So, a C63 that traps slower in the 1/4 than a faster car, may be able to pull on it in a roll or at least hang much better than it would in a straight up 1/4 race from a dig.
11-01-2010, 05:58 PM
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I was talking about the GT-R. Sleepdoc's 2010 GT-R just has a Cobb AccessPort custom tune, DPs, and HKS exhaust. Even if you remove his HKS exhaust and put the oem exhaust back on, he's still in the mid-upper 10's @ 128-130mph.
He just ran 10.3 sec. @ 132mph...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-21890.html
10.4 sec. @ 133mph...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-20544.html
10.6 sec. @ 132mph...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-20091.html
Sleepdoc's 2010 GT-R just has a Cobb AccessPort custom tune, DPs, and HKS exhaust. Even if you remove his HKS exhaust and put the oem exhaust back on, he's still in the mid-upper 10's @ 128-130mph. He just ran 10.3 sec. @ 132mph...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-21890.html
10.4 sec. @ 133mph...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-20544.html
10.6 sec. @ 132mph...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-GT-R...lip-20091.html
All true for the GTR, BUT thats ^^^^ from the digg, these runs were BOTH "roll-ons". Fact is the GTR got beat (in these two races). Anyone have the facts on the mods on these two cars?
"So, a C63 that traps slower in the 1/4 than a faster car, may be able to pull on it in a roll or at least hang much better than it would in a straight up 1/4 race from a dig."
+1, very true. I've beat Subies and other cars in "roll-ons" that I could never beat from a digg.
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11-01-2010, 06:08 PM
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What other vehicle can do half as much as a GT-R can for it's price range? Not a whole hell of a lot... if anything at all. Closest thing in my mind is when you add a few more bucks to your pile and next comes the ZR1. People purchase GT-R's for their purpose, not the brand.
Where do you get that they're over exaggerated? I don't recall the last time I saw a $80,000 car run 7:26.7 at the Nur.
11-01-2010, 06:36 PM
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If you ask me.. you sound a bit jealous; and perhaps saddened by the fact that a GT-R can walk your C63.
What other vehicle can do half as much as a GT-R can for it's price range? Not a whole hell of a lot... if anything at all. Closest thing in my mind is when you add a few more bucks to your pile and next comes the ZR1. People purchase GT-R's for their purpose, not the brand.
Where do you get that they're over exaggerated? I don't recall the last time I saw a $80,000 car run 7:26.7 at the Nur.
What other vehicle can do half as much as a GT-R can for it's price range? Not a whole hell of a lot... if anything at all. Closest thing in my mind is when you add a few more bucks to your pile and next comes the ZR1. People purchase GT-R's for their purpose, not the brand.
Where do you get that they're over exaggerated? I don't recall the last time I saw a $80,000 car run 7:26.7 at the Nur.
+1 , the GTR is no doubt a great car. 2012 with its added performance will be even better!! Now, if you want to go really really quickly, stock, look at the 2011 911 Turbo S with Sport Chrono and PDK!! 10.8 stock at 130. 0-60 2.6 (brutal)
11-01-2010, 07:20 PM
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They are both great cars and serve different purposes--- for daily driving, the C63 would get the nod and for all out performance from a dig and in turns the GT-R is the choice. Slap on a few mods and GT-R is amazing but I wouldnt want it for a daily driver, thats what the E63 is for.
The GT-R does tend to fall flat over 110 mph in stock format (mine was stock for a short period) but it clearly responds to mods better than most and the pricing is reasonable. I have the HKS 570 kit plus exhaust and injectors and not even my heavily modded 997TT can keep up with it.
Congrats to the C63 owner who won this race!!
The GT-R does tend to fall flat over 110 mph in stock format (mine was stock for a short period) but it clearly responds to mods better than most and the pricing is reasonable. I have the HKS 570 kit plus exhaust and injectors and not even my heavily modded 997TT can keep up with it.
Congrats to the C63 owner who won this race!!
11-02-2010, 11:59 AM
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Vic: you are truly my idol when it comes out to your garage.
however I wonder why you have the IS-F. I would think the E serves the same purpose (4 door saloon).
however I wonder why you have the IS-F. I would think the E serves the same purpose (4 door saloon).
11-02-2010, 01:58 PM
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11-02-2010, 02:38 PM
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I dont drive it... ever.
11-02-2010, 05:03 PM
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Vic, not to thread highjack here, BUT I did a driving school in the IS-F and loved the car? Unreal 8 speed auto in that car!! Any reason why you NEVER drive it?? Probably reliable as stink. BTW, your 997 is gorgeous!!
11-02-2010, 06:01 PM
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The car has some pluses but the suspension is kidney pounding hard at times; even moreso than my GT-R. I do like the exhaust note above 3500 rpms... The 8 speeds is nice but you can get lost in the mid range of gears if you are not paying attention.
I know its reliable this is true.
11-02-2010, 06:32 PM
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11-02-2010, 07:15 PM
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No slam nothing. Just not understanding how that fits into the conversation. This is the c63 forum just doesnt seem right to come here and talk the c63 down thats all.. Just a statement. I'll but out not even sure why I'm comming back to this thread it's almost pointless? But there's no other good threads right now!
11-02-2010, 07:31 PM
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No slam nothing. Just not understanding how that fits into the conversation. This is the c63 forum just doesnt seem right to come here and talk the c63 down thats all.. Just a statement. I'll but out not even sure why I'm comming back to this thread it's almost pointless? But there's no other good threads right now!
11-02-2010, 08:58 PM
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I wasn't putting the C63 down at all, it's a great car....if you read my comment in context I was making fun of the guy who was like "ugh it's a Nissan" and pointing out that non-enthusiasts could say similar about the C63....I clearly don't subscribe to that viewpoint, hell I drive a 60k msrp 3 series and a 60k msrp Ford
11-03-2010, 02:06 PM
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i did try with my bro have GTR my c63 with tuning more faster then him but dont try with gtr from 0 try like in 2nd so this r not new
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"goblen lag"
GTR maymshe yoom agrab ma3h 3lamashi ya3nee men gar 2 or 3 yan'3saal '3saal bas men asfr0 la tgraab lol lanh gtr fee torg c mashii baytm ya7rg.
my bro sell his gtr 2nd day no jk 
so this r not new no loser
"goblen lag"
GTR maymshe yoom agrab ma3h 3lamashi ya3nee men gar 2 or 3 yan'3saal '3saal bas men asfr0 la tgraab lol lanh gtr fee torg c mashii baytm ya7rg.my bro sell his gtr 2nd day no jk
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i did try with my bro have GTR my c63 with tuning more faster then him but dont try with gtr from 0 try like in 2nd so this r not new
no loser
"goblen lag" GTR maymshe yoom agrab ma3h 3lamashi ya3nee men gar 2 or 3 yan'3saal '3saal bas men asfr0 la tgraab lol lanh gtr fee torg c mashii baytm ya7rg.
my bro sell his gtr 2nd day no jk
so this r not new no loser
"goblen lag"
GTR maymshe yoom agrab ma3h 3lamashi ya3nee men gar 2 or 3 yan'3saal '3saal bas men asfr0 la tgraab lol lanh gtr fee torg c mashii baytm ya7rg.my bro sell his gtr 2nd day no jk
