Tunes... anyone have proof they won't effect warrenty?
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Tunes... anyone have proof they won't effect warrenty?
I've been doing some searching and can't find any straight answer if a ECU tune will effect the warrenty or not. I know the Magnusson-Moss Act prevents dealerships from denying coverage for using aftermarket parts, but how far does this go as far as an ECU tune is concerned? It seems like if you have an issue with the drive train, the dealership can say the tune caused the extra stress and deny warrenty coverage.
Anyone have experience with this? I'm starting to get interested in a tune/LT header system but don't want to through my warrenty out the window either.
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Anyone have experience with this? I'm starting to get interested in a tune/LT header system but don't want to through my warrenty out the window either.
Thanks
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Talk to your SA. Mine said no issue with Kleemann with the exception of the ECU itself since it has to be cracked open to flash. But who knows what will be covered if I do have a claim or do like Dodger said.
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Yea fine when they send an inspector to look at your blown motor hopefully he doesn't notice any no Mercedes parts on the car! Service advisor is not the end all be all of repairing your car.. He's the dealerships guy.. They want to repair everything and bill Mercedes Corp but if it's a big ticket item trust me there will be inspectors with there fine tooth combs.. Trying to save the corporate giant money.. Do as you please believe what you want but ask the service advisor what type of claims are there mandatory inspections on?
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dodger63... Did I **** you off somehow? All I did was ask a basic question to go over some things with my SA who would be responsible for any warranty issue's that might come up. Do you feel thats not a pertinent question? Seeing as this is a forum to discuss C63's, I figured I would ask some people that might have some knowledge about this topic seeing as my search found a lot of gray area's...
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dodger63... Did I **** you off somehow? All I did was ask a basic question to go over some things with my SA who would be responsible for any warranty issue's that might come up. Do you feel thats not a pertinent question? Seeing as this is a forum to discuss C63's, I figured I would ask some people that might have some knowledge about this topic seeing as my search found a lot of gray area's...
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In the United States, any modification will void the warranty for the modified piece along with all other parts it causes to fail, but it can NOT void the entire warranty for the car. An ECU tune, therefore, can potentially void a warranty for the transmission, differential, or any other drivetrain part but can NOT void the warranty for your seat module.
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My local SA will overlock Renntech tunes because the dealership sells renntech tunes. In regards to the "inspector" coming by to look at the engine, they really don't look over the part that needs replacing as hard as you think they do. They are human too, so the depth of their review really depends on the repoire he has with that particular dealership.
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My local SA will overlock Renntech tunes because the dealership sells renntech tunes. In regards to the "inspector" coming by to look at the engine, they really don't look over the part that needs replacing as hard as you think they do. They are human too, so the depth of their review really depends on the repoire he has with that particular dealership.
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Just get the tune not the headers which is obvious. Its just a tune which puts the hp where it should be like the E63,SL63,S63. I recently had my car dynoed and wanted to see the AF ratio. It was running a little rich-12.9 all the way to redline. Motor is safe.
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In the United States, any modification will void the warranty for the modified piece along with all other parts it causes to fail, but it can NOT void the entire warranty for the car. An ECU tune, therefore, can potentially void a warranty for the transmission, differential, or any other drivetrain part but can NOT void the warranty for your seat module.
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Op was looking for solid proof.. I belive the black and white writing more then a word of someone or the chance that someone will overlook something. I'm ducking out of this one the real truth is if there is an aftermarket ie non oem part on the car it might not be covered with that said if you want to be 100% certain a failed part will be covered do not modify and get all your services done on time at a certified shop and save all receipts!!
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I agree. but I guess I have been bite by the mod bug hard!!
wow that is a surprise to me.
I think if you touch the ECU if the dealer really wants to find out they can. especially on this ECU they have to open up the ECU first using pins to read out the information.
I think if you touch the ECU if the dealer really wants to find out they can. especially on this ECU they have to open up the ECU first using pins to read out the information.
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I can't speak for Kleeman but a nearby dealer is Renntech certified, and I inquired about the same thing not too long ago. They said it would only void the warranty for the parts replaced but they also stated that the tuner (in this case, Renntech) has manufacturer's warranty on those parts so you could possibly take it up with them. For example, if you replace your headers and there is an electrical fault, that should still be covered under warranty.
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I agree. but I guess I have been bite by the mod bug hard!!
wow that is a surprise to me.
I think if you touch the ECU if the dealer really wants to find out they can. especially on this ECU they have to open up the ECU first using pins to read out the information.
wow that is a surprise to me.
I think if you touch the ECU if the dealer really wants to find out they can. especially on this ECU they have to open up the ECU first using pins to read out the information.
A buddy of mine used to be a tech at RUSNAK Arcadia, He told me about this.
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Nick,
Just to add to the useful info above, I think you can look at this from another side, how many people have had issues with warranty after getting a tune? Personally can't recall reading of any on here, and considering how many people have tunes, I decided to take my chances. My 0.02.
Just to add to the useful info above, I think you can look at this from another side, how many people have had issues with warranty after getting a tune? Personally can't recall reading of any on here, and considering how many people have tunes, I decided to take my chances. My 0.02.
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These engines are massively detuned on the C63..a tune essentially just opens up the TB's to 80%. The C63 motor is overengineered up the wazzo, we are 4 years from the Chrysler junk.
How many motors have blown from just a tune? I expect to get at least 100k miles.
How many motors have blown from just a tune? I expect to get at least 100k miles.
