dodger63

I recently got the mcd intake I used it at Mir and atco this past week.. As most no Mir for me wasn't my best outing i had some mishift problems? I could not figure out I got 3 good runs.. But at atco my car was great consistent and strong I've never had such a consistent day. This was the first time my car had 5 good runs in a row before cool down.. A typical day at the track would be a ok 1st run second run strong 3rd would fall off then if I went for a 4th wouldn't be good.. The 11.219 run was actually my 3rd run of the set? I'm sure all you guys with allot of technical info will tell me better but I really think the intake scoops cooler air into the car from the larger Down scoops then stock I will be doing more test with this intake so stay tuned..

Here are my consistent a$$ runs!!!!

1: 11.291 @123.25 1.706
2: 11.317 @125.29 1.641
3: 11.361 @124.80 1.700
4: 11.291 @125.37 1.629
5: 11.291 @124.76 1.692
6: 11.363 @125.60 1.727
7: 11.372 @124.67 1.741
8: 11.304 @125.19 1.718
9: 11.374 @124.80 1.714
10: 11.219 @122.17 1.663
11: 11.337 @121.64 1.686
12: 11.335 @121.74 1.693
13: 11.330 @122.29 1.688
14: 11.330 @125.09 1.713
15: 11.386 @121.69 1.728
16: 11.305 @123.96 1.693
17: 11.305 @121.89 1.687

Sincity

Edit: NM-I thought you were talking about box tops.

dodger63

I have carbonio tops you want going to sell them!

SonnyakaPig

That's great to hear. I look forward to seeing how this intake continues to perform.

We have to work for every extra hp we can find on this NA car. I have no doubt that this intake can provide gains.

What I'm curious about is, if this part of the intake is beneficial, wouldn't it provide more cfm flow with the Carbinio or RT airbox tops?

I remember you saying that you and Mthis found no gain with the Carbonio, so I guess we'll see if you lose anything when you run this MCD intake by itself.

C63newdude

The intake looks fantastic. I have been following the original post in which MCD was launching the product and you volunteered/challenged the product for testing unfortunately the topic was closed by the administrator saying that the site don't tolerate replicas.

To me as a customer I don't get much into, I rather see competition so that I can see the prices going down. Anyways this is the topic that I am refering to in which they talk about this product:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...es-inside.html

C63newdude

^^^That is a great question Sonnyakapig. I strongly believe on this intake, it truly funnels the air in and it "scoops" larger volume and perhaps provides greater flow and velocity.
A good Ram air always seems to have a positive effect performance wise.

dodger63

I like the product! People on this forum take dyno numbers as law like, 400hp dyno = 11.9 1/4 and so fourth as people are learning there are a huge amount of variables with these cars being they are ran by computers that are constantly trying to correct everything we do to them!! I'm not looking for high dyno's I'm looking for track/real world numbers and if any of you are interested I suggest you follow dads,mthis or myself.. I know these guys personally and we seem to be on the same quest. Find the best products for the $$ that perform the best.. We are three different guys from different areas different ages with not much in common.. I am not speaking for them as we a have our own opinions but we are questing for the same.. I give this intake a thumbs up in real world conditions..,

More testing comming!!!!

dodger63

Next track day I'm going to test the stock vs cabonio and hopefully rentech

SonnyakaPig

Thanks.

I think we'll get an answer to this question when Dodger continues testing.

Regarding ram air, everyone has their opinions. As we know, some believe in it and others only believe in it past some high mph. I don't know what speed.

Ram air or in some car make applications, they're calling it "Over The Radiator." OEM C63 setups come with great OTR intakes.

The concern I would have with an intake that is funneling larger volumes of air into the engine would be the engine running a tad lean. Vararam was the big deal coming out with gen 5 Camaro SS "ram air" intakes. They had hundreds of people waiting in different stages of deposit waiting lists.

When the units got sent out, people were having pretty bad bucking and surging problems on the "no tune" versions. With a proper tune, these issues could be ironed out.

Even Halltech, which makes one of the finest CAI for Camaro's (and they have a very simple design) found that their intake really benefited from an aftermarket tune.

I'm wondering how this intake can provide so much extra air flow to provide real gains on the track and dyno but it doesn't affect the way the car drives. I guess there is a lot of room for adaptation within our ECU's.

But, then we get into octane and how this intake would function with 91 octane vs 93. Seems to me, higher octane enables the car to handle some kinds of mods that 91 octane would have to be specially tuned for.

I have found this with BMC air filters. With 91 octane, the car doesn't love the filters. But, with 93-94 octane, there are virtually no drivability issues.

Sorry, I know this is a lot to think about. Perhaps I'm thinking too much into this.

SonnyakaPig

This is the verification many people will believe in.

SonnyakaPig

Very cool. I for one admire your dedication and the quest you are on.

dodger63

Thanks this is my opinion! There will be those that agree and disagree.. But so far with testing I feel the car is liking the increased air and became a bit mire consistent over multiple runs! Like I said I give it a thumbs up.. I should be hitting atco again on the 4th or 5th i will update with futher findings!! I'm just impressed very impressed with the mire consistent runs and no sharp drop off once rhe motor is hot at the track!

SonnyakaPig

I've been doing some reading tonight on the Camaro5 forum. There's a tuner on the east coast named Ted Jannetty. He is one of the very top fifth gen Camaro tuners in the country. He is well known for his CAI testing.

Looking over his most recent test data of 14 different CAI's for the Camaro SS he found that some of the CAI's needed a tune to work best (e.g., to stop throwing KR, stop timing from being pulled, adjust fuel trims that were getting a little out-of-whack) and some worked fine without a tune.

Interestingly, he found a very nice surprise when he combined one CAI's specific part with another brand of CAI and wammo, big gains -- 18.6 rwhp peak gain, on the track that could be even more.

So, perhaps this intake that Dodger is testing and finding good and consistent results works very well in combination with larger volume air boxes like the Carbonios. I look forward to seeing how the RT air boxes work in combination with this unit.

SonnyakaPig

You have a lot of runs to compare. So, that's a real good result in itself.

RNS-11Z

I will also soon have some track data to compare too. my next track day is 8 dec, right in summer.

SonnyakaPig

Maybe that's why your intake tubes are hot? How hot is it outside?

Looking forward to seeing the results from your next track outing.

RNS-11Z

today its been about 29c (85f) with about 75% humidity. Its not so much the heat that kills our performance here in the Northern parts of Aus but the humidity. I dont know what the DA is. If i run an 11.90 again in this heat and humidity il be happy, if i beat it il be cheering. But i honestly doubt il beat it.

Sincity

Keith (Dad) did recently sell his Gruppe M. Perhaps he didn't find any benefit?

MCD Motorsports

I wanna give a BIG thank you to Mike for testing our intake out on the track and giving us and the forum feedback!! As you guys can see, the numbers may not show up on the dyno but on the track, it makes a pretty big difference.

PetroC63

I wonder how this intake will work with my RENNtech?

I may have to give it a try.

RNS-11Z

I would love to know that too i think it would be an awesome combo

dodger63

Search the thread he stated that he didn't use it??

RNS-11Z

that is true i bought it

dodger63

Np let me no! Come out to Li tonight! I'll give it to you for testing with rentech

dodger63

The problem you will have tomorrow is they will throw you off the track you'll have to lift until you get that one great 60' then atleast you'll have a great number