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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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I knew it was going to be bad but...

I knew winter driving was going to be bad, but this is just ridiculous. I drove home from work (maximum 5 minute drive normally), but it took well over 15 today. I've got michelin X-Ice tires on all four corners, but the rears need replacing.

The car started off as I expected. Pretty terrible, but it would stop well, and would require gentle throttle to get going. Then a warning light popped up. Then another warning light popped up.

Now I'm driving home with no traction control, no abs, no power brakes, and no power steering.

I knew it was going to be bad, I didn't know it was going to be like this. Ridiculous.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskoka_AMG
I knew winter driving was going to be bad, but this is just ridiculous. I drove home from work (maximum 5 minute drive normally), but it took well over 15 today. I've got michelin X-Ice tires on all four corners, but the rears need replacing.

The car started off as I expected. Pretty terrible, but it would stop well, and would require gentle throttle to get going. Then a warning light popped up. Then another warning light popped up.

Now I'm driving home with no traction control, no abs, no power brakes, and no power steering.

I knew it was going to be bad, I didn't know it was going to be like this. Ridiculous.
The car went into Dyno mode. LOL


Yeah dude, this car is not made for the snow.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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I dont understand your post? Are all the warning lights caused by winter driving or your bald rear tires? Or did you damaged something?
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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lol ur a dumbass, it's cheaper to rent a rental and drive in snow then to fix damages to the benz cuz of snow driving.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Roswell
I dont understand your post? Are all the warning lights caused by winter driving or your bald rear tires? Or did you damaged something?
I have no idea. I'll bring it into the dealership tomorrow.

I can't imagine I broke something, because I didn't hit anything, or even get into a pothole.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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lol ur a dumbass, it's cheaper to rent a rental and drive in snow then to fix damages to the benz cuz of snow driving.
Also cheaper to make a user name and get a Bugatti avatar than you actually buy one...
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskoka_AMG
I have no idea. I'll bring it into the dealership tomorrow.

I can't imagine I broke something, because I didn't hit anything, or even get into a pothole.

Its fine. When you reach your destination and shut it off and start it back up. Drive on some flat surface and it will reset. The car does the same thing when it gets on the Dyno.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskoka_AMG
I have no idea. I'll bring it into the dealership tomorrow.

I can't imagine I broke something, because I didn't hit anything, or even get into a pothole.
It sounds like you have a bad sensor somewhere... salt & electronics in our cars dont mix well, that's why I got a winter beater.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Roswell
It sounds like you have a bad sensor somewhere... salt & electronics in our cars dont mix well, that's why I got a winter beater.

Jeezzzz.. living by the water on a rainy day should destroy my car then.


Like I said.. its fine. Its a result from your wheels spinning without restriction.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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lol ur a dumbass, it's cheaper to rent a rental and drive in snow then to fix damages to the benz cuz of snow driving.
Explain what serious damage has been done, and how it will cost me anything on my warrantied car.

Please use English as well.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Its fine. When you reach your destination and shut it off and start it back up. Drive on some flat surface and it will reset. The car does the same thing when it gets on the Dyno.
Thanks for the info! My ride to work tomorrow should do the job then.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
Its fine. When you reach your destination and shut it off and start it back up. Drive on some flat surface and it will reset. The car does the same thing when it gets on the Dyno.
not sure if i had all the warning lights you did but +1 on it complaining after on a dyno, if i remember correctly they go away pretty quick tho.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Roswell
It sounds like you have a bad sensor somewhere... salt & electronics in our cars dont mix well, that's why I got a winter beater.
I figured that out first hand..... had the alternator completely rust and fry itself.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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I figured that out first hand..... had the alternator completely rust and fry itself.
is your winter beater a 2000 M5? That is sick (but somewhat redundant)!

I really don't mind driving rwd cars in the winter. Really doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that it broke.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
Its fine. When you reach your destination and shut it off and start it back up. Drive on some flat surface and it will reset. The car does the same thing when it gets on the Dyno.
Thanks for the good infos, I'll keep that in mind if my car shows those symptoms.

On the other hands, I used to drive my sport car in the winter... it was fine for the first 3-4 winters... but in the long run, everything started to rust & to fail. Our Canadian winters are not car friendly.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Thanks for the good infos, I'll keep that in mind if my car shows those symptoms.

On the other hands, I used to drive my sport car in the winter... it was fine for the first 3-4 winters... but in the long run, everything started to rust & to fail. Our Canadian winters are not car friendly.
Yeah, in Canada I imagine its a different story. More salt on the roads there than near me thats for sure. Also a MUCH longer winter.

The only questionable part I read was the loss of power breaks and steering. Those symptoms I never experienced on the dyno.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Yeah, in Canada I imagine its a different story. More salt on the roads there than near me thats for sure. Also a MUCH longer winter.

The only questionable part I read was the loss of power breaks and steering. Those symptoms I never experienced on the dyno.
Definately didn't feel like a complete loss. However, it got very hard to steer, and the brakes felt really tough. That being said, I'm lowered on full size tires, so there could have been snow in the wheel arches, and lots of snow on the brake rotors.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Also cheaper to make a user name and get a Bugatti avatar than you actually buy one...

Funny $h!t
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oh yeah i put up with haters all the time. lol.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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and muskoka amg , sry about your lost cuz you are being a dumbass to drive that car in the snow, i bet the service guys were laughing about it after u left lol.. so fking embarrassing to drop off the car at service cuz u f it up by driving a rwd 6.2 v8 in the snow lol.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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and dont worry too much about your car man, its probably just an ecu fault cuz of the nature of snow which creates too much computing for the ecu cuz of traction and stuff. so as soon as the service resets the ecu everything is gonna be back online again.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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How much snow were there on the ground while you were driving?

We have some light snow here in Kingston but my C63 drives fine. I have LM60 on.
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Mine is doing great in the winter .... -40 last week so it can't be the weather ...
+1 for the GROWL when you press START.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bugattiveyron88
and muskoka amg , sry about your lost cuz you are being a dumbass to drive that car in the snow, i bet the service guys were laughing about it after u left lol.. so fking embarrassing to drop off the car at service cuz u f it up by driving a rwd 6.2 v8 in the snow lol.
yeah i know it never snows in germany....dubmbass. and what?? does every audi have a supercomputer onboard to deal with too much wheelslip and steering angle for the quattro ???? ECU overload ???? What a retard...Do you know how many computations the ME 9.7 does in a second ???? Prob more than you have braincells.

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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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Mine did this 3 times the first winter I had the car (Canada). A bunch of warning lights came on and I lost power steering, power brakes, ABS ad ESP. I took it to the dealer and they couldnt really find anything but replaced one of the abs wheel speed sensors anyway. It has done the problem only once since then. It just seems to happen when your really doing alot of wheel spinning and sliding around and/or deep snow.
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